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thompsonx -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 12:32:55 PM)
ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Rich knows the community there far better than I do so I accept his concerns of vigilantism as plausible. Dick knows nothing more than his own opinion. In an area that has more than 50,000 residents we have the valid concerns of a fraction of 1% of those people.

thompsonx -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 12:38:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Worldtravelerxo My degrees are in psychology and it is proven sex offenders are not able to be rehabilitated. Someone wasted a lot of money because your opinion is not supported by facts.

thompsonx -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 12:41:27 PM)
ORIGINAL: twoholewonder Those whom have proven themselves time and again capable of interfering with the privacy and security of others should be put to death. Kinda like politicians who start wars? I wouldn't want them living next to me, not in the same apartment complex, not even in the same neighborhood. Would you want this person living next door to you and your young children? Even next to your grown children? If they shot them at sunrise I would spring for coffee and donuts for anyone who came to watch.

metamorfosis -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 12:56:26 PM)
I would absolutely freak out.

TheHeretic -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 1:04:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: metamorfosis I would absolutely freak out. There is a lot of that going around out there. There are also a lot of death/violent assault threats against the guy in the comments of the local online media outlets.

angelikaJ -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 2:08:25 PM)
My question to you is this: is the state legislative body doing anything to change this? Making it possible for those sentenced for repeat violent sexual offenses to be able to be sentenced to life without parole ? A few months ago we had a situation in which someone went to trial for using a camera to peep up women's skirts/dressed. It turned out there weren't actually any laws that prohibited that. Within 2 days a law was approved by both the state House and Senate and then was signed into law by Governor Patrick. So as shitty as the situation is, maybe something good can come out of it?

metamorfosis -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 2:22:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic There is a lot of that going around out there. There are also a lot of death/violent assault threats against the guy in the comments of the local online media outlets. That's just as bad.

TheHeretic -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 2:24:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ My question to you is this: is the state legislative body doing anything to change this? Making it possible for those sentenced for repeat violent sexual offenses to be able to be sentenced to life without parole ? Already done a good while back, but not retroactive. The bill that is going through on Hubbart publicity just deals with the judicial process in the release hearings.

VeryMercurial -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/26/2014 9:01:02 PM)
My first thought is, MANY of us have no idea what the "backgrounds" are of our neighbors/or those who happen to frequent/wander around/walk thru/and or "hang out" in our communities. There is a homeless shelter about a mile from where I live, and I am sure those that use it, "walk around" my neighborhood, or might even sleep sometimes in a wooded area. I think many of us would be surprised to learn the backgrounds of many people that live or happen to be in fairly close proximity to us. To answer the OP, I am not sure WHAT I would do. I already have an alarm system, I might consider getting a gun/and or moving. Can't really say what I "would do".

Zonie63 -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/27/2014 7:14:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic So here is the scenario. You are going along about your life, and a judge hundreds of miles away issues an order that a serial rapist is going to move in next door. �Most Prolific and Violent Rapist� to Be Released to L.A. County The story at the link has a fairly good history on the guy. He's not nice. I'm curious what people would do if this was the house or apartment next door to them. Move? Turn your house into a fortress? Adopt several big dogs? Just casually trust the wisdom of the doctors who say he's all better now? Bring a gun into the home? Take him a casserole, and welcome him to the neighborhood? There is another thing the article doesn't mention. Policing for the area is two deputies on day shift. Response time to the area for a code 3 call runs 15-20 minutes (if they have someone to send). Calling 911 will get you somebody to take a report when it is over. Reading this story and some of the posts in this thread where people have said there are sex offenders scattered about their areas, it occurred to me that they could put all of these released offenders in the same area or neighborhood. To borrow a line from The Great Escape, they could "put all the rotten eggs in one basket, and watch that basket very closely."

GreedyTop -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/27/2014 7:51:12 AM)
"Escape from L.A."

LookieNoNookie -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/27/2014 4:46:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: smileforme50 quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic My suggestion has been that he be housed in a trailer on the grounds of a state facility. That was done previously in California, with a serial killer who had to be released. It worked out. If you house him on the grounds of a state facility.....what's the point of "releasing" him from prison to begin with? That's not releasing him at all. This is an issue that irritates me because this happens because people have a terminal case of NIMBY. And to top it off, they don't want criminals released, but at the same time, they don't want to pay any taxes to pay for the prison system to be able to keep all these people locked up. You can't have it both ways folks. sure there is a difference, he may be housed on the facility grounds (spending his nights there) but free to go anywhere for work or when he feels like it, unlike those that are locked up 24/7.. as far as nimby goes, have you looked at who lives in your area? how many designated sex offenders live there? You cant get away from them, they are everywhere!.. even the safest community I know of (in SoCal) is gated & guarded 24/7, has 10,000 resident and there are 3 registered sex offenders living there in that community... One thing I do find curious tho, why did the judge not release him into his own community/county instead of dumping the guy in another county all together? I am guessing he didnt want to face the wrath his community/county would lay on him.. [&:] This is pretty fascinating stuff. I was searching for something about 6 months ago, then as all things internet, 9 searches later and I was on these sites: Idaho sex offenders. Do what I did; look at a dozen or so of their stories (particularly the women)....it'll freak you out! Violent sex offenders: http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=vsp&page=1&sz=1365 Non compliant sex offenders (not sure what that means): http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=noncomp&page=1&sz=1365 Quarterly non compliant sex offenders (whatever the last guys did....these guys do it every 3 months I'd imagine): http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=qtrnc&page=1&sz=1365

tj444 -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/27/2014 6:19:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie This is pretty fascinating stuff. I was searching for something about 6 months ago, then as all things internet, 9 searches later and I was on these sites: Idaho sex offenders. Do what I did; look at a dozen or so of their stories (particularly the women)....it'll freak you out! Violent sex offenders: http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=vsp&page=1&sz=1365 Non compliant sex offenders (not sure what that means): http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=noncomp&page=1&sz=1365 Quarterly non compliant sex offenders (whatever the last guys did....these guys do it every 3 months I'd imagine): http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=qtrnc&page=1&sz=1365 When I lived in WA state, I rented a room in a house on a small acreage and there was a registered sex offender living "next door", but I never saw him or had any problems.. Like I said, they are everywhere, even in "good" areas.. What are you supposed to do? live in fear? I won't do that, I refuse to do that.. but stranger rapes are fairly rare, its the people you know and interact with that you need to be careful with.. Considering the number of women that stats say have been or will be raped in their lifetime, you are looking at a huge number of victims.. but a victim is what a rapist is looking for, and he will tend to look for the easy ones, young girls/boys, children, teenagers.. the young who still trust adults & have been told by parents to respect and not question.. by the time you are mid-20s you tend to have learned not to trust & be an easy victim cuz its either happened to you or almost happened to you.. Its pretty hard for a female to live her entire life without having been sexually assaulted (raped or not), groped, touched inappropriately in some way.. when that happens, you look at men differently.. from your list.. I don't know what "non-compliant" means exactly, from looking at some of the records, many of the actual offences are not usually recent, 1997... 1989.. 2002... 2006.. non-compliance might just mean that they didn't register like they are supposed to, not that they are out raping again.. If I am understanding/reading the records correctly? and it sounds like the ones I looked at were one time offenders? or does Idaho only list the first offence and not any subsequent offences? eta- when I look at the crime in an area I like looking at the maps of incidents & sex offenders living there.. its a lot easier for me to visualize how many and where they are located.. so I like sites like- http://www.familywatchdog.us/ or https://www.crimereports.com/

MistressDarkArt -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/27/2014 7:01:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 <snip> eta- when I look at the crime in an area I like looking at the maps of incidents & sex offenders living there.. its a lot easier for me to visualize how many and where they are located.. so I like sites like- http://www.familywatchdog.us/ or https://www.crimereports.com/ Oh jeez, I just discovered there's a sex offender living in one of the senior facilities I play at across the highway, and another I didn't know about 2 blocks down sharing the parking lot with the coffee shop I frequent. [&:]

LookieNoNookie -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/28/2014 5:23:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie This is pretty fascinating stuff. I was searching for something about 6 months ago, then as all things internet, 9 searches later and I was on these sites: Idaho sex offenders. Do what I did; look at a dozen or so of their stories (particularly the women)....it'll freak you out! Violent sex offenders: http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=vsp&page=1&sz=1365 Non compliant sex offenders (not sure what that means): http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=noncomp&page=1&sz=1365 Quarterly non compliant sex offenders (whatever the last guys did....these guys do it every 3 months I'd imagine): http://www.isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/SOR?form=6&typ=qtrnc&page=1&sz=1365 When I lived in WA state, I rented a room in a house on a small acreage and there was a registered sex offender living "next door", but I never saw him or had any problems.. Like I said, they are everywhere, even in "good" areas.. What are you supposed to do? live in fear? I won't do that, I refuse to do that.. but stranger rapes are fairly rare, its the people you know and interact with that you need to be careful with.. Considering the number of women that stats say have been or will be raped in their lifetime, you are looking at a huge number of victims.. but a victim is what a rapist is looking for, and he will tend to look for the easy ones, young girls/boys, children, teenagers.. the young who still trust adults & have been told by parents to respect and not question.. by the time you are mid-20s you tend to have learned not to trust & be an easy victim cuz its either happened to you or almost happened to you.. Its pretty hard for a female to live her entire life without having been sexually assaulted (raped or not), groped, touched inappropriately in some way.. when that happens, you look at men differently.. from your list.. I don't know what "non-compliant" means exactly, from looking at some of the records, many of the actual offences are not usually recent, 1997... 1989.. 2002... 2006.. non-compliance might just mean that they didn't register like they are supposed to, not that they are out raping again.. If I am understanding/reading the records correctly? and it sounds like the ones I looked at were one time offenders? or does Idaho only list the first offence and not any subsequent offences? eta- when I look at the crime in an area I like looking at the maps of incidents & sex offenders living there.. its a lot easier for me to visualize how many and where they are located.. so I like sites like- http://www.familywatchdog.us/ or https://www.crimereports.com/ I'm not sure. What I found interesting was...how many were from any place other than Idaho....kinda like West Virginia....lots of places to hide. Equally, lots of places to "fit in".

Crouchingtiger77 -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/28/2014 6:03:02 PM)
quote: So? What would you suggest the wonderful correctional system of Los Angeles do with the guy. Ship him off to another county, another state? Ice bergs are good places to let them relocate to.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/29/2014 9:52:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Crouchingtiger77 quote: So? What would you suggest the wonderful correctional system of Los Angeles do with the guy. Ship him off to another county, another state? Ice bergs are good places to let them relocate to. I like that. Loose ones. Floating ones.

tj444 -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/30/2014 7:28:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie I'm not sure. What I found interesting was...how many were from any place other than Idaho....kinda like West Virginia....lots of places to hide. Equally, lots of places to "fit in". yeah,.. which could be why some don't register until they are found and forced to register.. that part really sucks for basic law abiding residents cuz then they don't even know there is someone "next door" that they have to be careful of.. Mind you, I suppose it is always best to consider that these people are in your midst and be on guard against anyone (including those you "know" and don't think could ever be a predator).. Depending on what stats you believe, if 20% of men have raped someone (including getting a girl drunk to get sex), then that means 2 out of every 10 men you know/meet is that guy (convicted or not).. when I think of things in those terms, it means always on guard..

Crouchingtiger77 -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/30/2014 11:56:53 AM)
quote: I like that. Loose ones. Floating ones. Hello Lookie, actually this idea comes from a 1950's Adventures of Superman episode in which a couple discover that clark kent is Superman as they have his superman suit. So, superman flies them to the top of a mountain, and says, "There is a log cabin here, plenty of wood to make fire, and i'll decide what to do with you two later." well, the man decides to climb down, the woman wearing high heels none the less follows and they both fall to their demise. Superman didn't kill them anymore than would we be making them available to become a Polar Bear's snack. midnight sna

smileforme50 -> RE: A rapist moving in next door (5/30/2014 1:43:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VeryMercurial My first thought is, MANY of us have no idea what the "backgrounds" are of our neighbors/or those who happen to frequent/wander around/walk thru/and or "hang out" in our communities. There is a homeless shelter about a mile from where I live, and I am sure those that use it, "walk around" my neighborhood, or might even sleep sometimes in a wooded area. I think many of us would be surprised to learn the backgrounds of many people that live or happen to be in fairly close proximity to us. To answer the OP, I am not sure WHAT I would do. I already have an alarm system, I might consider getting a gun/and or moving. Can't really say what I "would do". quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 Reading this story and some of the posts in this thread where people have said there are sex offenders scattered about their areas, it occurred to me that they could put all of these released offenders in the same area or neighborhood. To borrow a line from The Great Escape, they could "put all the rotten eggs in one basket, and watch that basket very closely." I remember when I worked in a pharmacy about 15 years ago....After filling scripts for about 3 dozen people, it occured to me that I kept seeing the same street name address over and over....and a LOT of the scripts I was filling were for antipsychotic drugs. Out of curiosity I went back and looked at the scripts I had filled. I couldn't believe it when I realized that on this one particular neighborhood street, there were TWELVE homes where at least one of the residents was on an antipsychotic. I don't know if this was a location for some special housing "halfway houses" or is this was just someplace where they all gathered....or maybe it was the only part of town they could afford to live. But it did get me to start wondering who was living behind the doors of the houses closer to where I lived.

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