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Sanity -> Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 1:32:11 PM)

Our lawless president:

Obama picks and chooses which laws to enforce, setting a dangerous precedent... Of course, many leftists will love this, up until its a Conservative president doing the same thing.

For this thread I have chosen a topic illustrative of this trend. Currently Barack Obama has caused a mass influx of child refugees to flood over our southern border with his decision to ignore our immigration laws

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/10/migrants-shipped-arizona-border/10269915/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2653811/Obama-opens-military-base-deal-flood-illegal-child-immigrants-officials-insist-cared-despite-abuse-allegations.html

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/10/Illegal-Immigrant-Children-Reportedly-Sickened-By-Food

Its extremely odd that any president would so flagrantly violate the laws of the land (see also the Bergdal case, wherein the president violated a law that he himself signed requiring him to notify congress 30 days in advance of any GTMO detainee release, etc) especially during an election year

My question for the thread is, what purpose does this wave, this flood of child refugees serve the left - especially if it costs them several Senate seats, or even the Senate itself








Sanity -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 1:42:59 PM)

One more link, an article about Obama's "Dream Act" policy:

A year later, Obama calls deferred action for "Dreamers" a success



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 2:17:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Our lawless president:

picks and chooses which laws to enforce, setting a dangerous precedent... Of course, many leftists will love this, up until its a Conservative president doing the same thing.

Actually, I noted this when Conservative presidents were setting the dangerous precedents, noting that of course, many rightists loved it, up until it's a liberal president doing the same thing. And here we are -- the whining Conservative. And guess what! I'm concerned, just as I was back then. Where were you????

Of course, Obama is hardly a leftist--he's Bush Lite. He's not even a progressive president, beyond a weak health care bill. But I know how your mind has not capacity for anything beyond "Me" and "Far Left"




Hillwilliam -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 2:19:04 PM)

Bout fuckin time you came back and started your RW whining.


Welcome back.



Sanity -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 2:49:41 PM)

Fast reply -

While awaiting the first on-topic response, here's a link to an article wondering aloud if the federal government (Obama) is violating state child abuse laws in this case





mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 2:54:24 PM)

Nope, Obama aint mentioned, and there is no wondering if it is child abuse, Texas is full and has no room, it would be abuse not to find them lebensraum.

We need a thread, why nutsackers can't read or cogitate.




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 2:56:02 PM)

If you don't like discussing the various aspects of the point, probably should have stuck to "the topic" yourself instead of inserting your snark.

Snarking OP = responses that address the snark, and by definition, that's "on topic."

Show a little discipline, you might be surprised at the better quality of responses.

Instead, you want to throw shit, and then complain you're surrounded by shit.



mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 2:58:26 PM)

Ja, but with the dailymail and breitbart as exhibits, he aint gonna get nothing but shit, because it is all he is shoveling there.



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 2:59:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

One more link, an article about Obama's "Dream Act" policy:

A year later, Obama calls deferred action for "Dreamers" a success


Where he asks Congress to take up the matter and pass appropriate legislation?

The evil guy.



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 3:03:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Our lawless president:

Obama picks and chooses which laws to enforce, setting a dangerous precedent... Of course, many leftists will love this, up until its a Conservative president doing the same thing.

For this thread I have chosen a topic illustrative of this trend. Currently Barack Obama has caused a mass influx of child refugees to flood over our southern border with his decision to ignore our immigration laws

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/10/migrants-shipped-arizona-border/10269915/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2653811/Obama-opens-military-base-deal-flood-illegal-child-immigrants-officials-insist-cared-despite-abuse-allegations.html

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/10/Illegal-Immigrant-Children-Reportedly-Sickened-By-Food

Its extremely odd that any president would so flagrantly violate the laws of the land (see also the Bergdal case, wherein the president violated a law that he himself signed requiring him to notify congress 30 days in advance of any GTMO detainee release, etc) especially during an election year

My question for the thread is, what purpose does this wave, this flood of child refugees serve the left - especially if it costs them several Senate seats, or even the Senate itself


So child refugees enter the US, and the President finds emergency shelter for them and requests funding to feed them while ICE processes them.

What exactly is the "illegal" part or the "abuse"? And how does this "serve the left"? These aren't invited guests . . .



mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 3:06:26 PM)

And he being the kind of guy that only finds his 'news' at full blown whacko fuckhead sites, does not know that Obama is known to illegal aliens as 'The Deporter in Chief'. He has deported more illegals than the all the nutsacker presidents in the last 50 years combined.



MrRodgers -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 3:09:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Fast reply -

While awaiting the first on-topic response, here's a link to an article wondering aloud if the federal government (Obama) is violating state child abuse laws in this case




Here's an on topic response. What's your point ? Let me see. You want to get back to the good not-so-old days ?

Obama was not appointed by the supreme and instead he offends your hypocritical right wing sensibilities by actually being elected ? Is Obama not going through $5 trillion in surplus ? Bothers me too.

Is Obama not lying us onto two more wars ? Is Obama not outing a CIA field agent obviously and quite purposefully as revenge for her husband outing W's lies about Africa ? Oh to be able to be so corrupt and dumb too.

Is Obama not allowing the Pentagon to be attacked ? Is Obama not allowing some new piece if shit paper to be vacuumed up for wall street to defraud investors ? Is Obama creating far more jobs and what 7 new market highs ? I know...a fool. I mean give the guy a break.

Yes, time to give the guy a break. We know everybody would have loved say a Romney...some greedy, capitalist neocon scum to do all that again but we can't have everything...ok ?

We can get back to the right wing, neocon, complete destruction of America and western civilization in 2016...just be patient.



Sanity -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 8:45:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

So child refugees enter the US, and the President finds emergency shelter for them and requests funding to feed them while ICE processes them.

What exactly is the "illegal" part or the "abuse"? And how does this "serve the left"? These aren't invited guests . . .


If they're not invited guests, what is King Obama's "Dream Act" decree good for then, and all the free food stamps and Obamacare etc etc etc. What more of an invitation do they need, magical carpet rides?



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 8:47:49 PM)

Well, I guess he could line them up and shoot them, and to cut costs, serve their meat at White House dinners.

Economical, tough on immigration, no "child abuse."

Hey, I thought I was on Hide????



thompsonx -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 8:59:40 PM)


ORIGINAL: Sanity


If they're not invited guests, what is King Obama's "Dream Act" decree good for then, and all the free food stamps and Obamacare etc etc etc. What more of an invitation do they need, magical carpet rides?


Do you just open your mouth to change feet?



Sanity -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 9:14:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I guess he could line them up and shoot them, and to cut costs, serve their meat at White House dinners.

Economical, tough on immigration, no "child abuse."

Hey, I thought I was on Hide????


A president should just enforce the laws evenly, and across the board, rather than make these politically expedient royal decrees

Lady justice is oft depicted as blindfolded for a reason

How is it a presidents to pick and choose which laws he will enforce, as if he were an emperor choosing between dishes at a royal buffet dinner

Another example of his kingships presidential dereliction - after declaring that Obamacare was law of the land and unchangeable, with just a wave of his royal hand he put off some of the more draconian and highly unpopular requirements until after the elections

And learn to pay attention

My words were

you're still just a fucking troll, aren't you

Worthy only of the ignore button for the most part



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 9:17:57 PM)

Your words mean little, since you never follow through on them.

So which part bothers you -- the part where he found them shelter, or the part where he gets them food?

Damn abuser!



Sanity -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/10/2014 9:23:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Your words mean little, since you never follow through on them.

So which part bothers you -- the part where he found them shelter, or the part where he gets them food?

Damn abuser!


The part that matters is the part where there are three branches of government sharing power equally

The part where our constitution once served to separate us from banana republics



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/11/2014 5:36:37 AM)

That went out the door with Reagan. Where ya been?

Not that I like it -- I don't. But as you said, precedence is dangerous.

And Cheney made it his business to strength the presidency, harking back to his Nixon White House days.

Presidents, of all parties, are dangerous again. And bitterly partisan American makes that possible -- and has them cheering, as the right cheered Bush and Reagan.

Welcome to the result.



Sanity -> RE: Obama's Child Refugee Flood (6/11/2014 5:45:38 AM)

Abraham Lincoln set some dangerous precedents too, but Habeus Corpus isn't the topic, and Lincoln isn't president...

The topic is border security and this president choosing to subvert the law of the land for political purposes. Why have borders, after all? So we can be a sovereign nation of laws. And why have laws, why send a Congress to Washington to pass laws if they're only going to be selectively enforced.

Another example of the selective enforcement aspect of the topic - should it really be more illegal for Tea Party groups to dance around tax laws than leftist groups? And how shrill will the tune you are singing now become once the shoe is on the other foot.



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