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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/12/2014 2:50:09 PM   
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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/13/2014 4:57:13 PM   
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I'm a femdom, and I have a fantasy. My fantasy is to coerce a man into surrendering his comfort, pride and freedom for my arousal. Any compromise of that and guess what - I am not serving my own dominant desires. I'm just servicing him.

The solution? I match up best with men who get off on surrender. Not on fetishes. Men who have fetishes should seek out women with THOSE fetishes. Plenty of subs honestly get off on surrender to a woman's cruel urges and not knowing or having control is their kink.


I think the issue is not so much that you want x and he wants x but rather just how x is applied.
Suppose you like physically stricking him. Will you strike him in a manner he enjoys or will you strike him in a manner that he does not enjoy thus ensuring you get what you want but denying him?

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/13/2014 7:15:45 PM   
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Suppose you like physically stricking him. Will you strike him in a manner he enjoys or will you strike him in a manner that he does not enjoy thus ensuring you get what you want but denying him?

If he's getting punished, it's not going to be for his enjoyment.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 7:49:30 AM   
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I'm very selective with my subs NOR do I NEED them, like I don't NEED anyone.

Bullshit. Everyone needs someone.


I can choose to engage or disengage. It is a bad idea for a sub to consider themselves as an inherent need for a D, the moment he does I'd probably disengage.


How,exactly, can a pitcher exist without a catcher?

Wanna be a part of my world? Awesome, we play by my rules. Not good enough for you? There's the exit.

If you take your marbles and go home then you can with yourself.

It is all about the control factor so why surrender that because I'm worried my pet may run away if my entire life and existence circumvents it?

Why do you feel that you would be surrendering the control factor by being respectful of your subs needs?

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 7:52:37 AM   
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Suppose you like physically stricking him. Will you strike him in a manner he enjoys or will you strike him in a manner that he does not enjoy thus ensuring you get what you want but denying him?

If he's getting punished, it's not going to be for his enjoyment.
I was not speaking of punishment but physical impact play.
What say you?


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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 9:07:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

If he's getting punished, it's not going to be for his enjoyment.

I was not speaking of punishment but physical impact play.
What say you?



Naturally. This was said in jest, but there is an element of truth to it. Aakasha can answer for herself certainly about "ensuring you get what you want but denying him?" as you had originally posed.

Insofar as I'm concerned, I would want to optimize the experience for the both of us. This is where pro-active safe words serve the purpose of providing feedback from bottom to Top, or regular interactive verbal communication is fine, whether in words or by vocalizing sounds. Signaling can be utilized.

It would serve no purpose for me to try to diminish my sub's enjoyment, unless he were being disciplined. If you can picture an upwardly moving spiral within a closed-loop system, our energies feed off of one another symbiotically and synergistically.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 9:42:04 AM   
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Insofar as I'm concerned, I would want to optimize the experience for the both of us.





This is where pro-active safe words serve the purpose of providing feedback from bottom to Top, or regular interactive verbal communication is fine, whether in words or by vocalizing sounds. Signaling can be utilized.



It would serve no purpose for me to try to diminish my sub's enjoyment, unless he were being disciplined. If you can picture an upwardly moving spiral within a closed-loop system, our energies feed off of one another symbiotically and synergistically.

Here I would prefer the word symbiatic or mutual symbiosis as opposed to symbiosis which icludes both parasitic and mutual symbiosis.
Other than that tiny bit of pedantry we are on the same page.


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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 9:50:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Insofar as I'm concerned, I would want to optimize the experience for the both of us.



This is where pro-active safe words serve the purpose of providing feedback from bottom to Top, or regular interactive verbal communication is fine, whether in words or by vocalizing sounds. Signaling can be utilized.



It would serve no purpose for me to try to diminish my sub's enjoyment, unless he were being disciplined. If you can picture an upwardly moving spiral within a closed-loop system, our energies feed off of one another symbiotically and synergistically.

Here I would prefer the word symbiatic or mutual symbiosis as opposed to symbiosis which icludes both parasitic and mutual symbiosis.
Other than that tiny bit of pedantry we are on the same page.


Okay, let me fix that. Mutual symbiosis or symbi*smartass*atic dynamics.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 9:59:06 AM   
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Okay, let me fix that.

I have handcuffs and leg irons.
Don't threaten me unless you are serious.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 12:45:45 PM   
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I'm a femdom, and I have a fantasy. My fantasy is to coerce a man into surrendering his comfort, pride and freedom for my arousal. Any compromise of that and guess what - I am not serving my own dominant desires. I'm just servicing him.

The solution? I match up best with men who get off on surrender. Not on fetishes. Men who have fetishes should seek out women with THOSE fetishes. Plenty of subs honestly get off on surrender to a woman's cruel urges and not knowing or having control is their kink.


I think the issue is not so much that you want x and he wants x but rather just how x is applied.
Suppose you like physically stricking him. Will you strike him in a manner he enjoys or will you strike him in a manner that he does not enjoy thus ensuring you get what you want but denying him?



If a guy is into me because he is hoping I will strike him, I won't have any interest in that.

If we have incredible chemistry and I know he's not using me and he has a specific fetish, I will use in in a manner I find appropriate and on my terms. If he hints, mopes, etc. it pushes it further down my list. I can't help that. It just wrecks it with me.

What I have learned is that I don't connect well with extremely oriented fetishists who want that one thing above all else, UNLESS we have such intense, amazing chemistry and he can learn to not try to manipulate me -- as always, very open communication applies. But when I look back on those relationships, they all ran their course after about 6 months - 9 months when people settle in. Then the "I want less surrender, more of my fetish" type discussions would happen. Or, "Why don't you do x more. It's not fair. You are neglecting me." Meanwhile, I crave his SURRENDER. If I am guilted into dominating a guy it makes me want to puke. Literally.

That's the time to break up - it's simple incompatibility - there are people who will enjoy doing x, y or z all the time.

The only fetish I have that is so encompassing I can make it work with a mutual fetishist is bondage. But even then, he has to make me believe he's surrendering - or, he has to honestly and authentically give in to me to take the lead - always.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 12:50:30 PM   
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I'm very selective with my subs NOR do I NEED them, like I don't NEED anyone.

Bullshit. Everyone needs someone.


I can choose to engage or disengage. It is a bad idea for a sub to consider themselves as an inherent need for a D, the moment he does I'd probably disengage.


How,exactly, can a pitcher exist without a catcher?

Wanna be a part of my world? Awesome, we play by my rules. Not good enough for you? There's the exit.

If you take your marbles and go home then you can with yourself.

It is all about the control factor so why surrender that because I'm worried my pet may run away if my entire life and existence circumvents it?

Why do you feel that you would be surrendering the control factor by being respectful of your subs needs?


Question was not directed at me, but I will answer.

A femdom can do fine without male subs in her world. She dominates, seduces, coerces vanilla men. Trust me, most vanilla men squeal with glee at the idea that they are hooking up with a sadistic, demanding, creative, "KINKY" woman. The problem is just a different flavor - making them understand it's not like the movies, that kinky doesn't mean "easy," and that S&M doesn't mean he gets tied up and given a blow job.

But if there is incredible chemistry and attraction and clicking on all levels, vanilla guys make amazing kinky partners. I can't speak for all femdoms, but I am not shy about approaching men or pursuing men. It's in my nature. Men, in general, enjoy being pursued. Men who are more dominant and toppish give off that vibe early on in flirtation and it's easy to spot them. Go for the quiet, shy, nervous one. If he isn't submissive, he will be by the time I am done with him.

There are a LOT of things an authentic, born, kinky 100% sub guy can offer that a vanilla guy can't in the bdsm realm -- namely, a understanding that kink isn't just a diversion but it's WHO I am -- and vanilla guys often have a ton of limits. But saying if a femdom can't get a sub partner she's destined to be alone - that's just not true.

Akasha


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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 3:09:00 PM   
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There are a LOT of things an authentic, born, kinky 100% sub guy can offer that a vanilla guy can't in the bdsm realm -- namely, a understanding that kink isn't just a diversion but it's WHO I am -- and vanilla guys often have a ton of limits. But saying if a femdom can't get a sub partner she's destined to be alone - that's just not true.


The way I've heard it put is that nine times out of ten the vanilla guy will say 'yes'. But that tenth time - that's a killer.

I don't know what it feels like, for a femdom, to have her sense of control suddenly wrested out of her hands. It's not something with which I can empathise because it's not in my repertoire of feelings. I'm not a dominant and I'm not female. All I really know is that it's bad.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 6:12:06 PM   
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If a guy is into me because he is hoping I will strike him, I won't have any interest in that.

If we have incredible chemistry and I know he's not using me and he has a specific fetish, I will use in in a manner I find appropriate and on my terms. If he hints, mopes, etc. it pushes it further down my list. I can't help that. It just wrecks it with me.

What I have learned is that I don't connect well with extremely oriented fetishists who want that one thing above all else, UNLESS we have such intense, amazing chemistry and he can learn to not try to manipulate me -- as always, very open communication applies. But when I look back on those relationships, they all ran their course after about 6 months - 9 months when people settle in. Then the "I want less surrender, more of my fetish" type discussions would happen. Or, "Why don't you do x more. It's not fair. You are neglecting me." Meanwhile, I crave his SURRENDER. If I am guilted into dominating a guy it makes me want to puke. Literally.

That's the time to break up - it's simple incompatibility - there are people who will enjoy doing x, y or z all the time.

The only fetish I have that is so encompassing I can make it work with a mutual fetishist is bondage. But even then, he has to make me believe he's surrendering - or, he has to honestly and authentically give in to me to take the lead - always.

This is all very informative but it avoids the question I asked.

I think the issue is not so much that you want x and he wants x but rather just how x is applied.
Suppose you like physically striking him. Will you strike him in a manner he enjoys or will you strike him in a manner that he does not enjoy thus ensuring you get what you want but denying him?


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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/15/2014 6:34:09 PM   
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A femdom can do fine without male subs in her world.


If she does then she would be a femdom with no one to domme which would make her someone who does not domme which logically proceeds to she is no longer a domme.
That, though, was not my original comment. She stated she needed noone and that simply is not true.




She dominates, seduces, coerces vanilla men. Trust me, most vanilla men squeal with glee at the idea that they are hooking up with a sadistic, demanding, creative, "KINKY" woman.

You are preaching to the choir here

The problem is just a different flavor - making them understand it's not like the movies, that kinky doesn't mean "easy," and that S&M doesn't mean he gets tied up and given a blow job.

If all I got was a blow job when I got tied up I would quit getting tied up.

But if there is incredible chemistry and attraction and clicking on all levels, vanilla guys make amazing kinky partners.

So I have been told Just not recently

I can't speak for all femdoms, but I am not shy about approaching men or pursuing men. It's in my nature. Men, in general, enjoy being pursued.

They also forget how to run and grow two left feet.



Men who are more dominant and toppish give off that vibe early on in flirtation and it's easy to spot them. Go for the quiet, shy, nervous one. If he isn't submissive, he will be by the time I am done with him.


Hmmmmm....well I am from missouri...

There are a LOT of things an authentic, born, kinky 100% sub guy can offer that a vanilla guy can't in the bdsm realm -- namely, a understanding that kink isn't just a diversion but it's WHO I am

Is it possible that an honest human being could?


-- and vanilla guys often have a ton of limits.

My best guess is primarily from ignorance. That being said I am one of those folks who does not particularly enjoy being beat with a whip. That disaffection is not, however,from a position of ignorance.



But saying if a femdom can't get a sub partner she's destined to be alone - that's just not true.

If she can't get a partner who is willing to play within her parameters then yes she is destined to be alone. Is it likely that she could not find a player?
I would offer myself as a classic example of someone who has difficulty finding someone I am attracted to to play within my parameters or finding someone I am attracted to whose parameters I fit. Lucky for me I can still affrord to rent.


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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/16/2014 2:55:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

[FieryOpal:] Okay, let me fix that.

I have handcuffs and leg irons.
Don't threaten me unless you are serious.


Are they rabbit-fur lined? cuz I wouldn't want to hurt you, ya know.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/16/2014 5:39:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

quote:

ORIGINAL: FightingChains

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are pathetic. You treat people like dirt. You are one of those few people in life who truly deserves a reality check cos you seriously need one. I don't care whether you give a damn about what I say, someone has to tell self absorbed children to get over themselves. I don't expect you to listen to a word I say because from your perspective the only person who matters on earth is you. But take it as you will.


I treat people like dirt, LOL...who have I treated like dirt exactly? You are the one indulging in petty name calling and as I stated before you are nothing to me but another faceless entity on the internet so nothing you say will elicit much more than a yawn. GROW UP.
And your IQ is 157 so it's 14 points higher than a 14 year old who was reading Shakespeare at 4 and is currently trying to cure cancer. Congratulations! :)
This is according to what test? There are only two that matter.
Nevermind, loss of interest.

The irony honestly makes me laugh throatily.

And Akasha as it seems, we are on the same page pretty consistently. :)



If you find it funny that he is bragging about an iq of 157 because it's only 14 above the 14 year old mentioned then how do you feel about the poster who was bragging because hers was 123 in post 34? Oh wait a minute, that was you. I guess it's only supposed to be impressive when you post it.

As to why you should be concerned about keeping your pet happy so he won't take off on you....I would think that would be common sense unless you enjoy going out and getting a new one every time the old one figures out he isn't getting his needs met and dumps you.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/16/2014 5:44:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I'm very selective with my subs NOR do I NEED them, like I don't NEED anyone.

Bullshit. Everyone needs someone.


I can choose to engage or disengage. It is a bad idea for a sub to consider themselves as an inherent need for a D, the moment he does I'd probably disengage.


How,exactly, can a pitcher exist without a catcher?

Wanna be a part of my world? Awesome, we play by my rules. Not good enough for you? There's the exit.

If you take your marbles and go home then you can with yourself.

It is all about the control factor so why surrender that because I'm worried my pet may run away if my entire life and existence circumvents it?

Why do you feel that you would be surrendering the control factor by being respectful of your subs needs?


Question was not directed at me, but I will answer.

A femdom can do fine without male subs in her world. She dominates, seduces, coerces vanilla men. Trust me, most vanilla men squeal with glee at the idea that they are hooking up with a sadistic, demanding, creative, "KINKY" woman. The problem is just a different flavor - making them understand it's not like the movies, that kinky doesn't mean "easy," and that S&M doesn't mean he gets tied up and given a blow job.

But if there is incredible chemistry and attraction and clicking on all levels, vanilla guys make amazing kinky partners. I can't speak for all femdoms, but I am not shy about approaching men or pursuing men. It's in my nature. Men, in general, enjoy being pursued. Men who are more dominant and toppish give off that vibe early on in flirtation and it's easy to spot them. Go for the quiet, shy, nervous one. If he isn't submissive, he will be by the time I am done with him.

There are a LOT of things an authentic, born, kinky 100% sub guy can offer that a vanilla guy can't in the bdsm realm -- namely, a understanding that kink isn't just a diversion but it's WHO I am -- and vanilla guys often have a ton of limits. But saying if a femdom can't get a sub partner she's destined to be alone - that's just not true.

Akasha




You claim you don't need sub guys because you can turn any vanilla guy into a sub guy.

"If he isn't submissive, he will be by the time I am done with him."

but in the end you are still playing with a sub, so what is the difference. For once I agree with Thomson. You can't play if you don't have a partner unless you are really into hitting yourself.

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/16/2014 7:12:27 AM   
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For once I agree with Thomson.

See, that didn't hurt very much now did it?

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/16/2014 7:13:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

[FieryOpal:] Okay, let me fix that.

I have handcuffs and leg irons.
Don't threaten me unless you are serious.


Are they rabbit-fur lined? cuz I wouldn't want to hurt you, ya know.


Yes you do

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RE: Cuckolding question/advice - 6/21/2014 2:21:05 AM   
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Hello all,
This is my first post and although I have been on the collarme website for awhile I am now trying to become a more active member, I am however a novice and apologize if I offend anyone.

I have developed a deep craving/need to be a cuckold, but not the fake cuckold crap that comes up in a quick google search. I am seeking a Goddess to love and be loved by. Are they real Women out there that enjoy/want to be a cuckoldress, or is cuckold something that fake subs have twisted and warped so much that a Mistress hears cuckold and runs for the hills? I am not a cross dresser, sissy, nor do I consider myself gay in the slightest fashion. I have always toughly enjoyed sex and I think the combination of that and wanting to a submissive drives my desire to be a cuckold. For example it could be said that sex is the thing I want most, giving control of that to a Mistress is submission. Then to add on to the fact that she takes what I want most and teases me about having sex with other people is ultimate submission. I am not saying I never want sex (quite the contrary) but I think there would be a huge power exchange there. Which I think is what drives women to be dominate. Am I crazy/ making any sense? How do I get past the stereotypical crap that is associated to find a Mistress that is looking for similar things and not the fake money grabbing people on here? Is my idea even real or has it been also warped by the fake crap, ie maybe I am looking for something that isn't real. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, or at least to know there are like minded people like me.

Thank you all for your time!



Of course, there are many women out there that enjoy and desire this. You're not crazy. Keep searching. You mention fake money grabbing people. that is not unique to cuckold subs searching, everyone looking for a partner online runs this risk of the many fakes. If you are looking for likeminded people there is a rather active cuckold forum. You can Google it.

Good luck.

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