DesideriScuri
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so in point of fact, more people have been deported since Obama took Office than any other president before him...The agencies have done it....
he gets the blame, but not the credit..
same shit different depth
It all depends on how you look at it.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/1/what-the-deportationnumbersdonattell.htmlquote:
Over the past five years, activists, academics and the news media have stressed that the Obama administration has removed nearly 2 million undocumented immigrants, and is on pace to deport more than any other White House in U.S. history.
The truth is that the U.S. is actually deporting fewer people than it did before — but the way in which it is doing so has never been so punitive.
There are two ways in which someone can be forced to leave the U.S. The first is by removal, which the federal government defines as “the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal.” The second is by return, or “the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal.” That was formerly referred to as a “voluntary departure.”
In fiscal year 2013, the United States removed 368,644 people who were in the country without authorization. That’s down from a record 419,384 the year before. In 2012 — the last year for which federal statistics for both removals and returns are available — the US deported a total of 649,352 people, down from President Bill Clinton’s all-time high of 1,864,343 in fiscal year 2000.
When it is defined as the sum of removals and returns, our understanding of deportation changes. Deportations are not at all-time high levels, but removals are. The Obama administration has removed a record number of immigrants over the past five years, but it’s inaccurate to say that it has deported a record number.
The distinctions between the two might not seem like a big deal — they both result in people leaving, often against their will — but there are some key differences that are worth considering. Removal comes with an automatic five- or 10-year ban on applying to re-enter the country; if apprehended a second time, migrants could face incarceration and a 20-year or lifetime ban from re-entry. The repercussions of return, or voluntary departure, are less harsh. In some cases individuals are allowed to remain in the country for a short period to tie up loose ends. Voluntary departure also comes with shorter bars to re-entry, or no bar at all if one has been in the U.S. for less than 180 days. But both removal and return require an individual to leave the country by order of the federal government, and both should be counted in the total number of deportations.
http://cis.org/ICE-Illegal-Immigrant-Deportations
http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4275317/deportations.png
Looks like Bill Clinton leads the charge in total deportations, then maybe W, then Reagan and finally President Obama. Sorry if that upsets your apple cart. (ETA: No I'm not.  )
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