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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/11/2014 2:47:57 PM   
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There's another form of tribute that hasn't been mentioned.

Sub males have a high rate of agreeing to meet and not showing. Probably because they've lied about age, weight, marriage status. So many lifestyle dommes will also demand tribute, usually something costing around $25 which is less than buying her a meal at Applebees. It's done because a guy who isn't planning to meet won't spend that on an Amazon wish list.

But a guy who is serious will. It's a way of weeding out time wasters.


Do sub male guys get to weed out the femdom time wasters? The ones who want tributes but don't show?

This is about material gain in exchange for a relationship of an intimate nature. She gets off on material gain and he gets off on kink.




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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/11/2014 7:45:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure they do. If they don't want to pay it, they say no thanks to women who ask for it. It's that simple.
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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/11/2014 7:58:15 PM   
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So many lifestyle dommes will also demand tribute, usually something costing around $25 which is less than buying her a meal at Applebees.


More than $25.....what are you eating at Applebees?


Lunch and no alcohol. This covering her chicken caesar salad and an iced tea. Presumably he would have bought himself lunch in any event.


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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/11/2014 10:16:51 PM   
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Um no.



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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/12/2014 4:29:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The PrincessKali, if men ask you for it it isn't extortion.
In that case you provide what they ask and it is clearly win-win.

It becomes extortion if it is as such that forms of tribute, in the broadest meaning or variation, are forced of the other person in such a way that the person cannot refuse unless suffering some kind of consequences and when this set-up is not part of the play negotiated play. This could indeed include forms of blackmail but are most often form of denial of the Dominant or spoiling the play.

In these last two cases "tribute" is a convenient word because in a BDSM context it is not out of order.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/17/2014 10:04:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
How does one touch breast, ass, etc while online?


If there is no touching, then there is no prostitution.

In my humble opinion, if it's online, then it's not fetish, it's fantasy.

It's as realistic as me fantasizing about walking on Mars.

If people are willing to pay you for that, then all the power to you.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/17/2014 1:38:31 PM   
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The PrincessKali, if men ask you for it it isn't extortion.
In that case you provide what they ask and it is clearly win-win.

It becomes extortion if it is as such that forms of tribute, in the broadest meaning or variation, are forced of the other person in such a way that the person cannot refuse unless suffering some kind of consequences and when this set-up is not part of the play negotiated play. This could indeed include forms of blackmail but are most often form of denial of the Dominant or spoiling the play.

In these last two cases "tribute" is a convenient word because in a BDSM context it is not out of order.



I dont think a Dominant spoiling the play constitutes as something someone "cannot refuse." The play is spoiled but it's not like the submissive can't go on. And personally I don't have anything to do with blackmail play. But most of the time the submissive begs to be blackmailed. I tried once early on and when I actually threatened to go through with it , he freaked out. So I think blackmail is very tricky bc it's a very common fetish.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/19/2014 10:10:11 AM   
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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/19/2014 4:14:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali


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ORIGINAL: CloakedProtector

The PrincessKali, if men ask you for it it isn't extortion.
In that case you provide what they ask and it is clearly win-win.

It becomes extortion if it is as such that forms of tribute, in the broadest meaning or variation, are forced of the other person in such a way that the person cannot refuse unless suffering some kind of consequences and when this set-up is not part of the play negotiated play. This could indeed include forms of blackmail but are most often form of denial of the Dominant or spoiling the play.

In these last two cases "tribute" is a convenient word because in a BDSM context it is not out of order.



I dont think a Dominant spoiling the play constitutes as something someone "cannot refuse." The play is spoiled but it's not like the submissive can't go on. And personally I don't have anything to do with blackmail play. But most of the time the submissive begs to be blackmailed. I tried once early on and when I actually threatened to go through with it , he freaked out. So I think blackmail is very tricky bc it's a very common fetish.


But if the submissive asks or begs for it it is consensual. Then it is play and play is OK if both are into that type of play.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/19/2014 11:11:36 PM   
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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/20/2014 1:39:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CloakedProtector


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ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali


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ORIGINAL: CloakedProtector

The PrincessKali, if men ask you for it it isn't extortion.
In that case you provide what they ask and it is clearly win-win.

It becomes extortion if it is as such that forms of tribute, in the broadest meaning or variation, are forced of the other person in such a way that the person cannot refuse unless suffering some kind of consequences and when this set-up is not part of the play negotiated play. This could indeed include forms of blackmail but are most often form of denial of the Dominant or spoiling the play.

In these last two cases "tribute" is a convenient word because in a BDSM context it is not out of order.



I dont think a Dominant spoiling the play constitutes as something someone "cannot refuse." The play is spoiled but it's not like the submissive can't go on. And personally I don't have anything to do with blackmail play. But most of the time the submissive begs to be blackmailed. I tried once early on and when I actually threatened to go through with it , he freaked out. So I think blackmail is very tricky bc it's a very common fetish.


But if the submissive asks or begs for it it is consensual. Then it is play and play is OK if both are into that type of play.



I had a submissive beg me over and over to blackmail. I agreed. He sent me incriminating photos, email addresses of his family, and told me specifically to push him even if he said no. He wanted me to blackmail for a ton of money and was very specific that he wanted to actually be blackmailed, not play. When it came down to it and I "threatened" to send out his photos he freaked out. Told me he would call the police, blocked me, and deleted his account. I think it's one of those fantasies people really don't think through.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/20/2014 3:31:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		it is accepting that you have to support yourself and your perve. Why would a Dominant take a sub and slave to train and create for the slave or sub their lifes dream and the sub or slave pay's nothing?

really? why doesn't the Dominant than become the Submissive lol

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/20/2014 9:11:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TuliTheUnruli

It isn't pro-dom, and it isn't financial domination; so what is it?


Has to do with sending me cash.

Email me privately and I'll explain the particulars.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/22/2014 5:07:36 PM   
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I could never imagine being somewhere out to eat and a guy saying "so you got your half?"




I could never imagine going out to dinner and having any respect for a woman who expected the man to pay for everything, but then I have never gone out with a "fin"

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/22/2014 8:43:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Being a fin has nothing to do with that. It might be where and how I was raised but down here, a gentlemen always pays. And would be insulted if a woman tried to.
It's just what happens. Gentlemen I've been around open doors, pull out chairs and pay for dinner. That simple. And for the record, I wouldn't care if a man like you didn't have respect for me. I wouldn't even think twice about it.
(And I'm only saying that in retort to you response about respect. I'm not trying to be ugly. But it's the truth)


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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/22/2014 9:36:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Being a fin has nothing to do with that. It might be where and how I was raised but down here, a gentlemen always pays. And would be insulted if a woman tried to.
It's just what happens. Gentlemen I've been around open doors, pull out chairs and pay for dinner. That simple. And for the record, I wouldn't care if a man like you didn't have respect for me. I wouldn't even think twice about it.
(And I'm only saying that in retort to you response about respect. I'm not trying to be ugly. But it's the truth)


What does being a fin-Domme have to do with whether a man has manners and any class in the first place?
Totally irrelevant, I agree, K. This is also how I was raised (not in the South), and I had a New Englander-type upbringing.

I've heard the whiney excuse, Well she makes more money than I do.
If so, then the man is overreaching his pay grade, and that's on him. Based on the competition, he'll just have to bring more to the table, not less.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/23/2014 8:56:53 PM   
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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/27/2014 4:21:29 PM   
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the man is overreaching his pay grade



So it is all about the money then, interesting.

Maybe it is cultural but every woman I have ever dated has insisted on going halves. If I managed to let them let me pay for the first date there is no way on earth that they would let me pay for the second.

I have had big arguments with a couple of girlfriends, years ago, who were pretty skint and just would not let me pay more than half.

You girls might think they were idiots, but they were strong willed intelligent women with too much respect for themselves to allow any man to bankroll them.

I guess feminism has different meanings in some places and to some people

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/27/2014 4:44:02 PM   
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the man is overreaching his pay grade

So it is all about the money then, interesting.

No, you are taking this saying literally. It means he is out of her league, which could be for any number of reasons (one of which may very well be his whiny, parsimonious attitude).
One reason is not more valid than the other--just your own perception or value judgment of it.

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

Maybe it is cultural but every woman I have ever dated has insisted on going halves. If I managed to let them let me pay for the first date there is no way on earth that they would let me pay for the second.

I have had big arguments with a couple of girlfriends, years ago, who were pretty skint and just would not let me pay more than half.

You girls might think they were idiots, but they were strong willed intelligent women with too much respect for themselves to allow any man to bankroll them.

I guess feminism has different meanings in some places and to some people

Feminism has nothing to do with women assuming the role of men. Equality does not equal sameness. Males and females are not the same.

Once preliminary dating is underway, the woman often hosts in her home.
What dollar value do you assign to a home-cooked meal?
Do you insist on bringing over half the groceries, do half the cooking, and half the clean-up?
No, probably not. So where is your equality/feminism theory in practice there? Do you insist on equality in everything across the board, and pitch in accordingly?
You might bring over a bottle of wine or a DVD to watch. Maybe.

When you ask a lady out on a date, you are playing the part of host, and she is your guest.
If those women you've known also enjoyed keeping their dates in the Friend/FWB Zone or vice versa, then that was their choice; but it's not every woman's choice, and at the core of feminism is freedom of choice.

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RE: What is Tribute? - 7/27/2014 4:45:11 PM   
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