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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:18:37 PM   
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fast reply



eta damn we done went all fucking twat and shit now huh? Classy as shit.

edit again to turn a cunt into a twat heh

You are bound and determined to suck all the joy out of my life



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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:18:56 PM   
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You are bound and determined to suck all the joy out of my life




BY force you beatch! Nice to see there are a few of the old timers still here! Although I didn't know you ventured into this end of things.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:22:19 PM   
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I'm still confused as hell how not giving a shit about a woman's limits came from the line quoted. What I got from the sentence was that limits don't just magically change because your partner says they should or even because that partner happens to be dominant to you. That not all limits can or should be changed. And what is not true about the statement that limits can and sometimes do change? How the fuck did not giving a shit about someone's limit come from that???


Because they have a bitter axe to grind and facts and logic are just inconvenient blips, kinda like producing Fox News...

I believe it all started with this.

quote:

Limits are there as signposts of places to tread carefully. Limits around medical conditions are clearly ones that are going to go badly wrong if you ignore them. Going down on a woman is not going to kill anyone, not going to "make them gay" and unlikely to result in emotional harm.


To some, my self included, limits are not someplace to tread carefully, they are places to not even fucking think about going. Obviously to your chicks, that aint the same. Doesn't make any of us more right than the other.

Then, the dick flappin contest started and I kinda got lost, but I am sure someone will let me know who wins.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:29:20 PM   
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Wait, wots first prize in the dick flapping contest? I may flop mine out.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:32:21 PM   
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Wait, wots first prize in the dick flapping contest? I may flop mine out.

Jus wunderin

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:34:18 PM   
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~FRing it~

All depends though on how each of us views limits in general. For some of us, there are soft and hard limits. My guy and I both have them. Hard limits are "oh hell no, never ever"...but soft limits are "let's check it out, but be extra careful."

So perhaps it really comes down to asking ourselves if we see it as limit/no limit or hard limit/soft limit. If we see it as limit/no limit...you can't really accuse people (like me or my guy) of not giving a shit about someone's limit because we see it as soft limit/hard limit.

I sadly have no dick to flap though

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:34:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

I believe it all started with this.

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Limits are there as signposts of places to tread carefully. Limits around medical conditions are clearly ones that are going to go badly wrong if you ignore them. Going down on a woman is not going to kill anyone, not going to "make them gay" and unlikely to result in emotional harm.


To some, my self included, limits are not someplace to tread carefully, they are places to not even fucking think about going. Obviously to your chicks, that aint the same. Doesn't make any of us more right than the other.



Exactly, so my posting my opinion was no cause to have my abilities, my character, and whatever else, attacked and called into question. Nowhere did I say everyone should do as I did and the reality is having your partner as you to go down on a women IS unlikely to result in emotional harm even if it ends the relationship.




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Then, the dick flappin contest started and I kinda got lost, but I am sure someone will let me know who wins.


No, it was a cunt flapping contest as I made a simple statement and panties flew into a wad and everything down to my choice of underwear was called into question.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:44:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


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FWIW Michael, I totally got what you were saying from the start.


Good, I mean I used to enjoy this place but wow, the negativity and vitriol is a bit much! I write a paragraph saying how careful I am, how nurturing, how skillful, and they ignore all that, project their own issues and focus on one word...

The negativity and vitriol and general cuntiness are limited to just a few special folk. The majority are fine. Exercise that hide button (love that thing) and stick around!


I second the motion!! Glad you are back...this is a great thread, and you KNOW I'm picking up what you're layin down.... Hugs.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 5:49:39 PM   
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Don't hold your breath, if this is how the mods run this place its worse than the old CM.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 6:20:16 PM   
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Uh, you get that is about a consensual authority dynamic, so the women I am with AGREE that I can manipulate their limits. I don't date weak women, its why I prefer to date Dommes or switches. They do not surrender easily but when they do, they do. My ex partners will in general have high praise for me or at least respect and few would disagree with anything I have posted here.


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Now we're getting into a completely different discussion....which entails "are Dommes and switches STRONGER than subs?". I can tell you, from personal knowledge, that one cannot gauge the person by the label applied. Frankly though, it says a lot that you said what you did here. There doesn't seem to be respect on your part for submissives or slaves. Am I wrong?

In terms of your past relationships, I have a tendency to believe that they view you as the "bestest person ever to come into their life". Am I wrong?


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

You would like to believe me? I have seen nothing but snarky doubtful comments often laced with vitriol, so sorry if that first statement shows you are full of shit. As for my resume, I could give it to you but you would have no idea how to check it. Suffice it to say I have taught at national conferences and often in LA and San Francisco. And give a nasty loon like yourself the name of my ex partners? Not a chance! Oh, and my resume goes back two decades and includes running a dungeon and the largest group in a good sized city so been there, done that.

So, since you asked for MY resume, what's yours?




How does it show that I'm full of shit?? I'm just a submissive trying to find her Dom. I've been "on the scene" for the past 15 years. Been to the dungeons in LA...which had it's fun parts, but, no, not for me.

I'm just out trying to find the one person that I can commit to for life. And, I've learned enough in my life to know when I want to pursue a relationship, and when someone is either clueless or is trying to push his "Dom weight" around. Call it vitriol, or whatever....but you fall into the latter category as far as I am concerned. There is a reason why I don't do certain things. For someone to come in, with whatever background, and not respect my boundaries? That's a wannabe. And, that's a person that I wouldn't give the time of day to.

I'm a "nasty loon"? That's a new one to me. Thanks....you almost sound like my Canuck ex-fiancee when you say that...



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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 6:22:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael


Uh, you get that is about a consensual authority dynamic, so the women I am with AGREE that I can manipulate their limits. I don't date weak women, its why I prefer to date Dommes or switches. They do not surrender easily but when they do, they do. My ex partners will in general have high praise for me or at least respect and few would disagree with anything I have posted here.


quote:



Now we're getting into a completely different discussion....which entails "are Dommes and switches STRONGER than subs?". I can tell you, from personal knowledge, that one cannot gauge the person by the label applied. Frankly though, it says a lot that you said what you did here. There doesn't seem to be respect on your part for submissives or slaves. Am I wrong?

In terms of your past relationships, I have a tendency to believe that they view you as the "bestest person ever to come into their life". Am I wrong?


quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

You would like to believe me? I have seen nothing but snarky doubtful comments often laced with vitriol, so sorry if that first statement shows you are full of shit. As for my resume, I could give it to you but you would have no idea how to check it. Suffice it to say I have taught at national conferences and often in LA and San Francisco. And give a nasty loon like yourself the name of my ex partners? Not a chance! Oh, and my resume goes back two decades and includes running a dungeon and the largest group in a good sized city so been there, done that.

So, since you asked for MY resume, what's yours?




How does it show that I'm full of shit?? I'm just a submissive trying to find her Dom. I've been "on the scene" for the past 15 years. Been to the dungeons in LA...which had it's fun parts, but, no, not for me.

I'm just out trying to find the one person that I can commit to for life. And, I've learned enough in my life to know when I want to pursue a relationship, and when someone is either clueless or is trying to push his "Dom weight" around. Call it vitriol, or whatever....but you fall into the latter category as far as I am concerned. There is a reason why I don't do certain things. For someone to come in, with whatever background, and not respect my boundaries? That's a wannabe. And, that's a person that I wouldn't give the time of day to.

I'm a "nasty loon"? That's a new one to me. Thanks....you almost sound like my Canuck ex-fiancee when you say that...





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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 6:25:43 PM   
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Wait, wots first prize in the dick flapping contest? I may flop mine out.

Jus wunderin


Oh I want to watch!!! Going to go pop some popcorn!!

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 6:26:09 PM   
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It doesn't sound any better twice...

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 6:34:58 PM   
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It doesn't sound any better twice...


Just out of curiosity, do you get your jollies these days from being an asshole? I'm not a psychologist (and I don't play one on TV), but it just seems to me that you're dealing with something incredibly painful from your past. Has a woman fucked you over? Are you taking that out on me, and every other woman that you come in contact with? This just isn't normal.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 6:52:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

It doesn't sound any better twice...


Just out of curiosity, do you get your jollies these days from being an asshole? I'm not a psychologist (and I don't play one on TV), but it just seems to me that you're dealing with something incredibly painful from your past. Has a woman fucked you over? Are you taking that out on me, and every other woman that you come in contact with? This just isn't normal.



Lets see, there are a number of women on this thread who have sided with me or openly conversed with me in a positive way and I with them. Contrast that with you that has listed the various problems with your ex partners and the men you have been with and done nothing but attack me since I posted. I think you need to find yourself a mirror and gaze into it.

Oh, but I do tend to enjoy being an asshole but some people just make it more of a joy than others.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 6:56:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub
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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

Wait, wots first prize in the dick flapping contest? I may flop mine out.

Jus wunderin

It's a surprise. Yeah, that's it!

Gotta let the cat out of the bag--Winner gets to throw down the gauntlet over this:
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I don't date weak women, its why I prefer to date Dommes or switches. They do not surrender easily but when they do, they do.


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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 7:03:13 PM   
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Michael, I will say this...

When some folks get a massive hard on for you, they put John Holmes to shame with how gloriously enormous that hard on is

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 7:04:31 PM   
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My apologies if that came off wrong. More than a few times that woman alluded to me dating spineless women, weak women, and whatever else. Does HER comment imply submissives are weak? No, and neither does mine as I was simply pointing out that most don't see Dommes as "weak".

This thread makes me envision a coven of bitches sitting around with knives waiting to carve someone up for any perceived slight.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 7:07:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littleladybug

Just out of curiosity, do you get your jollies these days from being an asshole? I'm not a psychologist (and I don't play one on TV), but it just seems to me that you're dealing with something incredibly painful from your past. Has a woman fucked you over? Are you taking that out on me, and every other woman that you come in contact with? This just isn't normal.

For what it's worth, he's not the one that's coming off as unhinged here.

Just sayin'.

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/16/2014 7:23:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

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I don't date weak women, its why I prefer to date Dommes or switches. They do not surrender easily but when they do, they do.



My ego doesn't need stroked with that. I know exactly what I'm after and a Domme couldn't be that, she may want to try, but it's not hard wired in her and I'm not looking for failure. But, you know what a dork I am, I've always found the /s side of the kneel to be the stronger side of the dynamic.

Jus sayin

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