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I will note that there are many posts denying that Hamas violates the laws of war, that Hamas uses human shields, that Hamas hides weapons insides civilian structures, that Hamas doesn't launch rockets from inside civilian areas and now comparisons of the Israelis to the Nazis.

Anybody wonder why someone might get the impression some posters support Hamas?

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I will note that there are many posts denying that Hamas violates the laws of war, that Hamas uses human shields, that Hamas hides weapons insides civilian structures, that Hamas doesn't launch rockets from inside civilian areas and now comparisons of the Israelis to the Nazis.

Anybody wonder why someone might get the impression some posters support Hamas?

Nobody gives a flying shit about Hamas, Ken.

I think that what it's really about is that lots of posters here just don't buy into the story that Israel is all about fine, decent, civilised people, whereas the residents of Gaza are nasty verminous, deranged "terrorists". Gazan children may be just the children of vermin to you, Ken, but, nonetheless, we - that is, most of the world outside of the USA and Israel - just can't help seeing them as innocent, human, children.

To put this as simply and as straightforwardly as possible, Ken: the Israeli army is killing children by the hundred and it, the Israeli government, and apparently most Israeli citizens, don't give a toss about it. Even if it were true about the line regarding 'human shields', it would still be irrelevant. Anyone who supports this mass killing of children is a revolting little cunt.

Do you grasp that? You, whoever 'you' are, do *not* get to claim that killing lots of children is righteous and expect to be treated as other than a cunt. They are *not* subhumans, no matter how much the Israeli propaganda machine has pumped this message so hard and so long. That is true no matter how much your race suffered half a century before. Get over it. The Israelis are the oppressors here, abundantly clearly, and you have sided one hundred percent with them. Whatever socialist, left wing sensibilities you've had, have disappeared up their own anus.

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Typical you claim not to take sides and then only one side is wrong, and what things the other side does that could be considered wrong is justified and caused by the first side. In other words you are doing exactly what you are accusing Ken of doing.

Apparently it's ok as long as you choose the right side to back up. Except in this case (at least from what peon says) that would be the left side. And DK seems to be really confusing people because he isn't toeing the party line and parroting their beliefs. Perhaps things are not as black and white as some would like them to be.

Pot kettle and black. Are you suggesting because some of use believe the same as Ken on some issues we have to march in lockstep.

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And by the 3rd GC Hamas is the guilty party for trying to use civilians to shield its military actions.

But that isn't happening, Ken. It's just a load of Israeli dogshit propaganda. There's no corroborated evidence of this. Furthermore, it's next to impossible to imagine how the Israelis could possibly come by the intelligence of it, either. Jesus, the guff that Israel is pumping out can't stand up to even a minute's interrogation. It's utter bollocks.

Come on - you can generally see through this kind of thing. You don't generally lap up every piece of right wing propaganda that's fed to you. Why do you come over all sponge-like when it comes to the subject of Israel and Palestine?

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Todays question should be are you that fucking stupid...... its rhetorical question since most of us already know.

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Gazan children may be just the children of vermin to you, Ken, but, nonetheless, we - that is, most of the world outside of the USA and Israel - just can't help seeing them as innocent, human, children.

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There really should be some kind of award for the most arrogant bullshit posted on the forums to date.

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The British mainland suffered for decades from IRA attacks, Bama. We didn't fire missiles that destroyed large chunks of Northern Ireland, though. In my book, if you claim to fight terrorists, you fight terrorists, and not the ordinary people, the women and the children, who happen to live nearby. Especially not if your military is state of the art and funded to the tune of $3 billion per year from a foreign government. It's a fucking cowardly, disgusting, disgrace.

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There really should be some kind of award for the most arrogant bullshit posted on the forums to date.

Nup, not worth it. THB, I don't know what you're getting at, nor why, and now I no longer care.

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For Israel to handle it like the Brits did, which drew a lot of criticism, they would have to take over Gaza. Is that what you want? Or do you want them to just ignore the missiles? Or maybe send a substantial military force in and invade every time there is an attack.

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Has it even occurred to you that those of us who disagree may not be heartless, disgusting, monsters.
And again genocide is worse than anything Israel has done.

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I will note that there are many posts denying that Hamas violates the laws of war, that Hamas uses human shields, that Hamas hides weapons insides civilian structures, that Hamas doesn't launch rockets from inside civilian areas and now comparisons of the Israelis to the Nazis.

Anybody wonder why someone might get the impression some posters support Hamas?

Nobody gives a flying shit about Hamas, Ken.

I think that what it's really about is that lots of posters here just don't buy into the story that Israel is all about fine, decent, civilised people, whereas the residents of Gaza are nasty verminous, deranged "terrorists". Gazan children may be just the children of vermin to you, Ken, but, nonetheless, we - that is, most of the world outside of the USA and Israel - just can't help seeing them as innocent, human, children.

To put this as simply and as straightforwardly as possible, Ken: the Israeli army is killing children by the hundred and it, the Israeli government, and apparently most Israeli citizens, don't give a toss about it. Even if it were true about the line regarding 'human shields', it would still be irrelevant. Anyone who supports this mass killing of children is a revolting little cunt.

Do you grasp that? You, whoever 'you' are, do *not* get to claim that killing lots of children is righteous and expect to be treated as other than a cunt. They are *not* subhumans, no matter how much the Israeli propaganda machine has pumped this message so hard and so long. That is true no matter how much your race suffered half a century before. Get over it. The Israelis are the oppressors here, abundantly clearly, and you have sided one hundred percent with them. Whatever socialist, left wing sensibilities you've had, have disappeared up their own anus.

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The British mainland suffered for decades from IRA attacks, Bama. We didn't fire missiles that destroyed large chunks of Northern Ireland, though. In my book, if you claim to fight terrorists, you fight terrorists, and not the ordinary people, the women and the children, who happen to live nearby. Especially not if your military is state of the art and funded to the tune of $3 billion per year from a foreign government. It's a fucking cowardly, disgusting, disgrace.

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Has it even occurred to you that those of us who disagree may not be heartless, disgusting, monsters.
And again genocide is worse than anything Israel has done.

OK. Actually, I wouldn't for a minute imagine you, or most people, being in charge of an army and ordering that missiles be fired at some distant target, in the knowledge that lots of innocents, including children, might be killed as a result. But I don't get why it's somehow OK for Israel to do this. There's a disconnect that I can't grasp, there.

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I have not allowed the fact that you are wrong lead me into attacking your character or your honesty.

DomKen has that part covered.

So you're defending comparing a couple of hundred deaths to a couple of hundred thousand. How utterly unsurprising. Is this just more of your usual attacking anything I post or are you really agreeing with that vile crap? I guess it will be impossible to find out.

Pay attention to the pretty red words. I was commenting on your tactic of launching personal attacks against people who hold views that differ from your own. See how that works? It's called English, Ken. Now go crawl back under your bridge.