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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

Also, those trying to make a racist narrative of the incident...the police officer that shot Michael Brown is black. (So I've just heard, haven't checked for confirmation myself).

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Raiikun

Turns out that Officer Darren Wilson was responding to reports of a convenience store robbery when he encountered Michael Brown, who is visible in surveillance footage from the convenience store.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

That is from St. Louis County police chief, Jon Belmar. Thanks for pointing it out. The source of information did not seem to come either from an official police report, the officer in question, or an actual investigation. (That Brown went for the officer's gun.)

Why would Mr. Brown go for the officer's gun? Can you explain to me the thinking there? You think he did this because he stole a box of cigars? It makes no sense.

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What is your explanation of this:

>The people who live in Canfield Green, the apartment complex where Brown was shot while on his way to visit his grandmother, not only witnessed his death but were subjected to an undignified wake: his prone figure sprawled on the street for four hours in the unforgiving August sun, with blood on the asphalt—an indignity in sharp contrast with the quick departure of the officer from the scene. “This was brazen,” Umana said to me. “It was done out in the open.” Better Family Life arranged for a bus with volunteer social workers and psychologists to be stationed near the spot to help community members cope with the trauma.<

Does that seemed fucked up to you?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

No but every source (other than left wing wackos) has said there was a struggle during which the gun was fired inside the car. And that the officer was injured.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


For someone who claims to have been in Law Enforcemt, facts are hardly your strong point.

Dont you even read your own fucking links >

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Hours after the reports' release, police said that Officer Darren Wilson, 28, had no idea 18-year-old Brown was a robbery suspect. He simply wanted Brown to move from the road to the sidewalk, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said at a news conference

Hey Polite

Just because the officer wasn't aware of what Brown had just done, Brown himself certainly was. If Brown assumed that he was about to be arrested for theft and assault, it might explain why the encounter turned violent. And regardless, it certainly paints Brown in an entirely different light then he's been touted as since this all started. The poor college bound youth, minding his own business when he's gunned-down by a murdering thug of an officer has a much different ring to it then robbery suspect shot after leaving store.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Well of course it skews the application of criminal justice. Anyone paying attention knows we don't have a problem with mobs of Asians or Pacific Islanders or Hispanics or Whites going on rampages of vandalism and looting.

K.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

That is from St. Louis County police chief, Jon Belmar. Thanks for pointing it out. The source of information did not seem to come either from an official police report, the officer in question, or an actual investigation. (That Brown went for the officer's gun.)

Why would Mr. Brown go for the officer's gun? Can you explain to me the thinking there? You think he did this because he stole a box of cigars? It makes no sense.

People do stupid shit that makes no sense all the time, why should this situation be any different?

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What is your explanation of this:

>The people who live in Canfield Green, the apartment complex where Brown was shot while on his way to visit his grandmother, not only witnessed his death but were subjected to an undignified wake: his prone figure sprawled on the street for four hours in the unforgiving August sun, with blood on the asphalt—an indignity in sharp contrast with the quick departure of the officer from the scene. “This was brazen,” Umana said to me. “It was done out in the open.” Better Family Life arranged for a bus with volunteer social workers and psychologists to be stationed near the spot to help community members cope with the trauma.<

Does that seemed fucked up to you?

Allowing the officer to leave the scene was prudent because keeping him at the scene could have been a serious problem. This was a potential crime scene, all sorts of things must be accounted for and documented. Would you rather have had them come in, pick the body up right away, spray the blood away and remove all traces it ever happened? That little blurb makes a big deal out of investigation the incident. It is terrible that people had to see it, but come on man, what are you supposed to do? If they cleaned up the area quickly they would be accused of not caring, they take their time to investigate and get the same accusation. You cannot win in that situation.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The cops are giving answers at a slow pace in order to let the protesters have lots of rope to hang themselves with. They want people to engage in wild speculation, let the speculation get reported as fact, then shoot it down in flames when they do the next release at their leisure.

Sure, that certainly could be the case. Or it simply could be that people will engage in wild speculation as an event unfolds and those speculations are reported as factual or people believe them to be fact. The police do not have this luxury to speculate and be wrong, fact gathering, processing evidence and reviewing and re-questioning people all takes time. Or, you could spin it to make it look the way you tell it. Whatever fits your agenda.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Does it make sense that a 7 year veteran who has never had a complaint against him just suddenly decides to gun down someone for no reason, now that makes no sense.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Does it make sense that a 7 year veteran who has never had a complaint against him just suddenly decides to gun down someone for no reason, now that makes no sense.

I agree that it doesn't make any sense. But the handling of this incident suggests a coverup; the secrecy, maligning the victim, withholding the officers name, the failure to release an incident report, the racial makeup of the police department, the failure to say what investigative steps have been taken, etc.

The eye witness, Johnson, says the police killed Brown in cold blood.

As I said to Gauge, will forensics be able to sort this out?

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The cops are giving answers at a slow pace in order to let the protesters have lots of rope to hang themselves with. They want people to engage in wild speculation, let the speculation get reported as fact, then shoot it down in flames when they do the next release at their leisure.

Sure, that certainly could be the case. Or it simply could be that people will engage in wild speculation as an event unfolds and those speculations are reported as factual or people believe them to be fact. The police do not have this luxury to speculate and be wrong, fact gathering, processing evidence and reviewing and re-questioning people all takes time. Or, you could spin it to make it look the way you tell it. Whatever fits your agenda.

There is little evidence that the Police are conducting an investigation of this shooting. From the outside, their actions look like a cover-up. If that's the perception of the greater population, then you must come forward with answers. Explain who will conduct the autopsy. Explain how the crime scene was secured. Say who the investigating officers are and what they are doing. Detail what witnesses have been interviewed. Detail the departmental procedures for reviews of shootings or whether or not excessive force was used. Say when forensic evidence will be ready for public disclosure. Invite community leaders into the station house.

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ORIGINAL: Gauge

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The cops are giving answers at a slow pace in order to let the protesters have lots of rope to hang themselves with. They want people to engage in wild speculation, let the speculation get reported as fact, then shoot it down in flames when they do the next release at their leisure.

Sure, that certainly could be the case. Or it simply could be that people will engage in wild speculation as an event unfolds and those speculations are reported as factual or people believe them to be fact. The police do not have this luxury to speculate and be wrong, fact gathering, processing evidence and reviewing and re-questioning people all takes time. Or, you could spin it to make it look the way you tell it. Whatever fits your agenda.

There is little evidence that the Police are conducting an investigation of this shooting. From the outside, their actions look like a cover-up. If that's the perception of the greater population, then you must come forward with answers. Explain who will conduct the autopsy. Explain how the crime scene was secured. Say who the investigating officers are and what they are doing. Detail what witnesses have been interviewed. Detail the departmental procedures for reviews of shootings or whether or not excessive force was used. Say when forensic evidence will be ready for public disclosure. Invite community leaders into the station house.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

That is from St. Louis County police chief, Jon Belmar. Thanks for pointing it out. The source of information did not seem to come either from an official police report, the officer in question, or an actual investigation. (That Brown went for the officer's gun.)

Why would Mr. Brown go for the officer's gun? Can you explain to me the thinking there? You think he did this because he stole a box of cigars? It makes no sense.

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What is your explanation of this:

>The people who live in Canfield Green, the apartment complex where Brown was shot while on his way to visit his grandmother, not only witnessed his death but were subjected to an undignified wake: his prone figure sprawled on the street for four hours in the unforgiving August sun, with blood on the asphalt—an indignity in sharp contrast with the quick departure of the officer from the scene. “This was brazen,” Umana said to me. “It was done out in the open.” Better Family Life arranged for a bus with volunteer social workers and psychologists to be stationed near the spot to help community members cope with the trauma.<

Does that seemed fucked up to you?

WHY would he steal a box of cigars while being taped then assault a man WHILE BEING TAPED, maybe he is just STUPID

and that doesn't a THING to do with the color of his skin

why do people do stupid things, wellllllllllll cause they are STUPID

Occam's razor, usually the SIMPLE answer is the CORRECT ANSWER

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

FR

The Governor has declared a midnight - 5:00 a.m. curfew, and was interrupted repeatedly during his statement by protesting residents, demanding the officer be charged with murder.

Not to worry though. The FBI is there to do the investigation.

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ORIGINAL: AQRMZ

TO dk

quit yer pissin dk, da wind is blowin it back on ya.

here is what I said in it' entirety, not the little snippit that you chose to drivel about. AND since I am on this subject, it should be noted
that Mr. Holder and our esteemed President Mr. Obama, who has experience as a "community organizer" chose to jump into this on the side of the "choirboyscout"
before everything was out on the table.
So just who would you say was more, in your words certainly not mine, "bigoted assholes".
I leave it to the readers to decide on that one.
My black girlfriend certainly knows who is.

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ORIGINAL: Gauge
Allowing the officer to leave the scene was prudent because keeping him at the scene could have been a serious problem. This was a potential crime scene, all sorts of things must be accounted for and documented. Would you rather have had them come in, pick the body up right away, spray the blood away and remove all traces it ever happened? That little blurb makes a big deal out of investigation the incident. It is terrible that people had to see it, but come on man, what are you supposed to do? If they cleaned up the area quickly they would be accused of not caring, they take their time to investigate and get the same accusation. You cannot win in that situation.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Gauge
Allowing the officer to leave the scene was prudent because keeping him at the scene could have been a serious problem. This was a potential crime scene, all sorts of things must be accounted for and documented. Would you rather have had them come in, pick the body up right away, spray the blood away and remove all traces it ever happened? That little blurb makes a big deal out of investigation the incident. It is terrible that people had to see it, but come on man, what are you supposed to do? If they cleaned up the area quickly they would be accused of not caring, they take their time to investigate and get the same accusation. You cannot win in that situation.

Not a potential crime scene. It was a crime scene and by letting the perpetrator leave the scene before evidence was collected the scene was hopelessly contaminated.

However the victim should have been transported to the hospital. That is standard procedure. He might have been saved.