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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 7:30:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, you made it about offending white people -- which given all that happened in Jennings -- is really fucked up.

You are beyond help.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 7:37:03 PM   
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No, you made it about offending white people -- which given all that happened in Jennings -- is really fucked up.

So you defend a racist statement by making an untrue accusation agai'nst me.
And no ut wasn't about "offending" white people it was about a blatant racist comment. Typical that you would try to twist it into something else.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 7:42:36 PM   
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No, you made it about offending white people -- which given all that happened in Jennings -- is really fucked up.

Don't you think black racism matters, and don't you think that if that women's bigoted attitude was widespread that it would have contributed to the Problem.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 7:49:47 PM   
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No, you made it about offending white people -- which given all that happened in Jennings -- is really fucked up.

Don't you think black racism matters, and don't you think that if that women's bigoted attitude was widespread that it would have contributed to the Problem.


If the black racists are the president and the attorney general, then their racism matters far more than practically anyone else who might be racist because of their power and influence over everyone else







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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 7:57:56 PM   
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I know plenty about firearms, however I am not qualified by any means to say whether or not it is possible to get gunshot residue on someone's skin at 1 foot away.

How much could you know about firearms and not know about gsw? I have already told you how to do the experiment yourself.
He was clothed. The gsw would be on his cloths not necessarily his skin. The private forensics person hired by the family according to the reports only had access to the body and not the clothes.


I will take the word of the professional at this point in time.

Well of course you do.


I am not sure how it is possible either, but if this man said that it is, then he has credentials, I do not.

Of course you have vetted the vidio right?



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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 8:09:01 PM   
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A logistic problem with bean bags is that they have too much mass to use in a handgun, or for that matter a rifle, so officers would have to carry a shotgun with them all the time. Other than that I agree they are more dependable than other non lethal weapons.

Since you have no clue what the phoque you are talking about why dont you go to google and look the phoquing things up. The bean bag is about the size of your thumb and about a third as thick. The weapon is about the length of a five cell flashlight and the diameter of a shotgun barrel.Did it ever occure to you to look shit up before stuffing both feet in your mouth by posting opnion as fact.?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 8:10:51 PM   
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cops get to kill /shoot at/beat up bigots with big mouths obviously.
And yet, cliven bundys crowd were aiming guns at how many people and ....walked away.






How many people did Bundy and his associates kill, maim, beat up? Let's see, somewhere between -1 and 0. They did of course kick off their property the actual nutcase and his wife.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 8:15:37 PM   
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Why would we want to believe the words of a city counsel member who was there to see first hand what was happening (in the Jennings Police Department.) It's amazing how white guys (Bama) always want to make issues about themselves. (From the whole piece, look at the one sentence he clips out. Is there a term known as racial narcissism?)

What did the Governor of MISSOURI do, he relieved the Captain of the Ferguson Police in favor of Ronald Johnson.

See also:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us/after-michael-brown-shooting-capt-ronald-johnson-redefined-leadership-in-ferguson.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3Aw%2C%7B%221%22%3A%22RI%3A11%22%7D

I never made it about me.


No, but what is it when someone accuses you of narcissism and you weren't narcissistic? It's the projection of one's own latent narcissism onto you. So the only rational conclusion here is that cloudboy must be a "racial narcissist"! Freud 101: Defense Mechanisms. One of the few things Freud was primarily correct about.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 8:17:44 PM   
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cops get to kill /shoot at/beat up bigots with big mouths obviously.
And yet, cliven bundys crowd were aiming guns at how many people and ....walked away.






How many people did Bundy and his associates kill, maim, beat up? Let's see, somewhere between -1 and 0. They did of course kick off their property the actual nutcase and his wife.

As I pointed out when Ken made the same comment.
A They ran off the people who were actually dangerous
B That leaves white people talking on an even level with black people burning and looting.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 8:25:38 PM   
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cops get to kill /shoot at/beat up bigots with big mouths obviously.
And yet, cliven bundys crowd were aiming guns at how many people and ....walked away.






How many people did Bundy and his associates kill, maim, beat up? Let's see, somewhere between -1 and 0. They did of course kick off their property the actual nutcase and his wife.

how many people did brown kill, maim or beat up....oh thats right, he was unarmed, and jaywalking, if he had been armed, he would have been dead sooner


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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 8:34:28 PM   
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how many people did brown ... beat up



I think it was a minimum of two, on the day he got killed - a shopkeeper and a cop. The second of those worked out badly for him


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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 9:00:29 PM   
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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 9:25:53 PM   
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How much could you know about firearms and not know about gsw? I have already told you how to do the experiment yourself.
He was clothed. The gsw would be on his cloths not necessarily his skin. The private forensics person hired by the family according to the reports only had access to the body and not the clothes.



I know he didn't have access to the clothes. Doesn't change what he said.

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I will take the word of the professional at this point in time.


Well of course you do.


Should I just wildly speculate like some people do? No, I will take the word of someone that knows more than you or I do on this particular subject.

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Of course you have vetted the vidio right?


Nope, I just linked it and guessed at the time to jump to. How did I do?

I am not certain what your point is in all of this. Yes, I can understand about the logistics with gunshot residue. Hell, it baffles me how it could happen or that he made the statement, but he did. Unless you are a forensic pathologist, I'll take this guys word over some dude on a message board.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/25/2014 11:46:16 PM   
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cops get to kill /shoot at/beat up bigots with big mouths obviously.
And yet, cliven bundys crowd were aiming guns at how many people and ....walked away.

How many people did Bundy and his associates kill, maim, beat up? Let's see, somewhere between -1 and 0. They did of course kick off their property the actual nutcase and his wife.

As I pointed out when Ken made the same comment.
A They ran off the people who were actually dangerous
B That leaves white people talking on an even level with black people burning and looting.


"they ran off the people who were actually dangerous". That's pretty funny and full of shit at the same time. If no one was dangerous there, why didn't the US Government simply walk in, arrest Bundy and keep the cattle? Please, try to spin your bullshit a bit further....its amusing.....

The people at the Bundy ranch were forced to talk given the circumstances. The folks in Ferguson did not partake in the looting. Media reports show the ones caught and captured were from outside the area. In the first case law enforcement would not have had trouble surrounding the ranch and cutting off all access to it. In Ferguson, that would have been a monstrous logistical nightmare to make a success.


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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 12:39:32 AM   
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The folks in Ferguson did not partake in the looting.

Earth, joether. Keep repeating that to yourself. We're talking about here on Earth.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 2:31:39 AM   
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Im treating your comments with the respect they deserve...
That you dont see it in the same vein says so much.



Lucy, I'm trying to respond to you as if you're a reasonable person. But if you want to keep proving that you're an obnoxious bitch, that's ok too.



you have ignored the POINT of my posts more than a few times, you are not worthy of anything but contempt until you do so with some intellectual honesty.
If you wanna sling names about, I can play that game as well, however... that would be giving you what you obviously enjoy.





Actually, I don't particularly enjoy playing "that game". I just get tired of having someone ask me a question, I reply, and then get a snarky bit of sarcasm in response. I answered you in reasonable manner. If someone missed your point, maybe the way to respond is to clarify your point, rather then insulting people for failing to understand you. Most of your posts are rather short and vague. I replied to what I thought you were asking.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 2:42:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
cops get to kill /shoot at/beat up bigots with big mouths obviously.
And yet, cliven bundys crowd were aiming guns at how many people and ....walked away.

How many people did Bundy and his associates kill, maim, beat up? Let's see, somewhere between -1 and 0. They did of course kick off their property the actual nutcase and his wife.

As I pointed out when Ken made the same comment.
A They ran off the people who were actually dangerous
B That leaves white people talking on an even level with black people burning and looting.


"they ran off the people who were actually dangerous". That's pretty funny and full of shit at the same time. If no one was dangerous there, why didn't the US Government simply walk in, arrest Bundy and keep the cattle? Please, try to spin your bullshit a bit further....its amusing.....

The people at the Bundy ranch were forced to talk given the circumstances. The folks in Ferguson did not partake in the looting. Media reports show the ones caught and captured were from outside the area. In the first case law enforcement would not have had trouble surrounding the ranch and cutting off all access to it. In Ferguson, that would have been a monstrous logistical nightmare to make a success.





and you talk about spinning BULLSHIT....

they burned that store down the FIRST NIGHT, aprox. 12 hrs. after it happened...

so unless you're saying people FLOCKED to Ferguson from outside basically BEFORE it hit the news that it happened, you are the one SPINNING BULLSHIT

now then some days later after people like you blew it into NATIONAL NEWS outsiders did arrive.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 2:53:13 AM   
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Im treating your comments with the respect they deserve...
That you dont see it in the same vein says so much.



Lucy, I'm trying to respond to you as if you're a reasonable person. But if you want to keep proving that you're an obnoxious bitch, that's ok too.



you have ignored the POINT of my posts more than a few times, you are not worthy of anything but contempt until you do so with some intellectual honesty.
If you wanna sling names about, I can play that game as well, however... that would be giving you what you obviously enjoy.





Actually, I don't particularly enjoy playing "that game". I just get tired of having someone ask me a question, I reply, and then get a snarky bit of sarcasm in response. I answered you in reasonable manner. If someone missed your point, maybe the way to respond is to clarify your point, rather then insulting people for failing to understand you. Most of your posts are rather short and vague. I replied to what I thought you were asking.

You continually ignored what i asked, to obfuscate, twist and deflect, i dont need long winded convoluted posts to make my points when short and to the point will do. How many times have you posts in the past week or two have included a rough expression of, ....my bad, my mistake, oh i thought?
Maybe it is "your issue" you should work on

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 3:34:49 AM   
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You continually ignored what i asked, to obfuscate, twist and deflect, i dont need long winded convoluted posts to make my points when short and to the point will do. How many times have you posts in the past week or two have included a rough expression of, ....my bad, my mistake, oh i thought?
Maybe it is "your issue" you should work on


As opposed to you who thinks you're always right and everyone who doesn't understand you is somehow defective. You're just like Ken, you make snide little pissy implications insulting other posters, then have the nerve to act offended when they insult you back. The only difference was, rather then imply, I said it outright, you're a bitch.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 4:40:35 AM   
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I also research my postings to as factual as they can be,
I do not suffer fools gladly, and to be called an obnoxious bitch, is usually a compliment to me, however it was not given in that vein... I refuse to talk with you any further, apart from not wishing to hurt your fragile ego, arguing with you just makes me appear as an ignorant fool as you are.



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