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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 5:26:31 AM

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no I admit when Im wrong quite readily, if you had any clue about my posting history.
I also research my postings to as factual as they can be,
I do not suffer fools gladly, and to be called an obnoxious bitch, is usually a compliment to me, however it was not given in that vein... I refuse to talk with you any further, apart from not wishing to hurt your fragile ego, arguing with you just makes me appear as an ignorant fool as you are.

Ahhh it's so cute that you think you're hurting my ego. You really have such an over-inflated vision of your own importance.

But I agree, I'm done with you now as well.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 5:35:09 AM

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see my above post...

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 7:19:58 AM

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As usual you and your links are racists... And wrong. The corruption was defined and the same council you are linking asked the county police to take over. And they hired back 7 of the same police from Jennings to patrol the same city.

Now why would the city allow that if they were racists police ? The answer they were not racists and the corruption at the chief level was the reason the department was dissolved.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 7:29:27 AM

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To add I am not defending anyone... But just trying to keep these straw men false arguments from unduly condemning anyone.

What the ferguson officer did will stand on its own. It is hypocritical to bitch about bringing up the character of the kid... But ok to do the same with the police.

Why can't you just stick to the facts then see if justice is served?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 7:34:40 AM

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These guys are hopeless. The Heretic especially.

An black 18 year old teenager deserves to die from six gunshots after stealing cigars and jaywalking. The whole community reports a feeling of police harassment, and all H can say is "I think it was a minimum of two, on the day he got killed - a shopkeeper and a cop. The second of those worked out badly for him. "

TRANSLATION: He doesn't give a shit.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 8:48:36 AM

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These guys are hopeless. The Heretic especially.

An black 18 year old teenager deserves to die from six gunshots after stealing cigars and jaywalking. The whole community reports a feeling of police harassment, and all H can say is "I think it was a minimum of two, on the day he got killed - a shopkeeper and a cop. The second of those worked out badly for him. "

TRANSLATION: He doesn't give a shit.

Sadly, this is likely the case for a lot of people across the country. I think a lot of people develop an idyllic image of what American cities and towns "should be," and so their reaction to things outside of their own insular standard becomes confused and convoluted.

And part of me understands where they might be coming from. I've lived in small towns where people didn't have to lock their doors, and I've also lived in cities with high crime areas. When I travel through various cities, people might advise me to "stay away from this area" or "that area," indicating the areas where it might be unsafe to go. So, it's a reality that people have to live with, but just as with this thread and elsewhere whenever the topic is urban crime and social decay, fewer people seem interested in discussing the reasons and the sources of the problem.

It's as if the elephant in the room took a shit, and yet, all people want to talk about is the shit while still ignoring the elephant.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 9:37:18 AM

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These guys are hopeless. The Heretic especially.

An black 18 year old teenager deserves to die from six gunshots after stealing cigars and jaywalking. The whole community reports a feeling of police harassment, and all H can say is "I think it was a minimum of two, on the day he got killed - a shopkeeper and a cop. The second of those worked out badly for him. "

TRANSLATION: He doesn't give a shit.

You idiot, he wasn't shot for stealing cigars
He wasn't shot for jaywalking
He was shot for attacking a cop

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 10:51:01 AM

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Well now, this is interesting. Apparently there is an audio recording of the shooting that the FBI is investigating. The audio recording shows a series of shots, followed by a pause and then another series of shots. What this means is anyone's guess, it has implications for both versions of the shooting.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting/index.html

Cue wild speculation in 3... 2... 1... GO!

Edited to add: I have not verified this yet... first cup of coffee... forgive me.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:04:16 AM

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In Cloudboy's world it's ok for "unarmed teens" to walk down the middle of the street obstructing the flow of traffic, and to steal cigars. No wonder Baltimore is such a fucking shithole.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:14:29 AM

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The thrust of his point is still guilt by association, clearly Cloudboy has no problem with this do you.

So by that moronic logic if you hang with the kkk the cops have no good reason to keep an eye on you?

Remember Wilson was never implicated in the wrong doing and that until this article came out Wilson had been with the Ferguson PD for six years, that's three years before this happened.

There seems to be some descrepancy as to just where he worked and for how long. Has it crossed your mind to actually do some research and find out what the facts are or is it more fun to make shit up?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:18:55 AM

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In Cloudboy's world it's ok for "unarmed teens" to walk down the middle of the street obstructing the flow of traffic, and to steal cigars. No wonder Baltimore is such a fucking shithole.

I cant imagine when it wasnt ok for unarmed teens to walk down the street, and fuck impeding the flow of traffic, it seems that the doughnut holes could let him lay in the middle of the fuckin street for 4 hours, and who knows how much longer in the SUV. I don't think anything too terrible was happening to rend the space-time continuum. I think what you got is a nasty barney fife thing going on there.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:29:52 AM

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This is vandalism and looting, not "protesting".

K.

Just how does this differ from the boston tea party? Phoquing looters are phoquing looters

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:32:26 AM

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And as usual that story is wrong!!! Goddamn people that don't live here report any damn thing they hear. The Jennings Police Department was dissolved because of corruption... not racial divide.

That would be your unsubstantiated opinion. There are numerous references to the bogotry of the jennings police department. For you to ignore them to focus on solely corruption is indicative of your bias.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:35:04 AM

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“You’re dealing with white cops, and they don’t know how to address black people,”

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What a racist comment.
If you pay attention white cops are automatically bad cops because they don't treat blacks like they are special.

Oh but they do. How many white people are acosted by an armed thug with a badge and told to get his black ass up against the wall. No that is special treatment reserved for black people.

Maybe she was too bigoted to be able to deal with white cops.
If a white person made a comment like that about a black cop they would be instantly branded a Klansmen.

This is clearly your own ignorant unsubstantiated opinion.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:36:30 AM

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And even the hit piece you posted said that Wilson got a commendation this year for subduing a person "involved in a drug deal" and again I ask if you really want us to believe that is the act of a triiger happy cop?

A commendation from a corrupt chief of police...Would you put that on your resume?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:38:33 AM

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Why would some doughnut hole get a commendation for subduing a guy involved in a drug deal?

I got best rester awards in kindiegarden, but when I did what I was paid to do, thats all I got was paid.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:49:51 AM

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If the black racists are the president and the attorney general, then their racism matters far more than practically anyone else who might be racist because of their power and influence over everyone else

The irony of this statement is awe inspiring.
If one considers the number of white racist presidents this country has had (As in those who owned slaves) and as you so correctly observe the power and influence that they wield is massive so it is not surprising that our society and you in particularyl reflects that particular bias.
I must commend you on your candor concerning your bigotry

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:53:00 AM

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How many people did Bundy and his associates kill, maim, beat up? Let's see, somewhere between -1 and 0. They did of course kick off their property the actual nutcase and his wife.

You seem to be in full support of white people stealing millions of dollars and threatning law enforcement with leathal force if they tried to arrest them but if a black kid steals a hadnfull of cigars and bitch slaps a cop then kill him....yeah I know just who the fuck you are.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:59:08 AM

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I know he didn't have access to the clothes. Doesn't change what he said.

I will take the word of the professional at this point in time.

Should I just wildly speculate like some people do? No, I will take the word of someone that knows more than you or I do on this particular subject.

Nope, I just linked it and guessed at the time to jump to. How did I do?

Not very well.

I am not certain what your point is in all of this.

Try reading my post instead of trying to find some clever way to keep your foot out of your mouth.

Yes, I can understand about the logistics with gunshot residue. Hell, it baffles me how it could happen or that he made the statement, but he did.

It goes against all that you claim to know about guns and so you disregard what you know for the word of someone you have never seen nor have you checked out to see if he had any claim to validity.

Unless you are a forensic pathologist,

No but I was an understudy for one on csi las vegas

I'll take this guys word over some dude on a message board.

Well of course you will

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/26/2014 11:59:42 AM

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How many people did Bundy and his associates kill, maim, beat up? Let's see, somewhere between -1 and 0. They did of course kick off their property the actual nutcase and his wife.

You seem to be in full support of white people stealing millions of dollars and threatning law enforcement with leathal force if they tried to arrest them but if a black kid steals a hadnfull of cigars and bitch slaps a cop then kill him....yeah I know just who the fuck you are.

Bundy bull-rushed the cops? The issue with Bundy was not whether his claim was valid (it likely isn't) but whether the Feds had to threaten force as opposed to handling the matter in the courts through proper adjudication. It was Fed overreach that was the issue, over-militarization. Bundy didn't bomb anyone or hurt anyone.

You have no evidence to say a "black kid [bitch-slapped] a cop." You weren't there. Nor was I. The evidence supporting Brown has thus far come from an accomplice who has previously filed false reports to the police, from assertions Brown was shot in the back (disproved by the autopsy), etc. If the evidence shows Brown was in fact trying to seriously injure, maim or kill Wilson, what then? Your argument is then without foundation and based on assertions you have no evidence for to date -- precisely why I am not proclaiming Wilson's innocence nor asserting his guilt.

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