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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 2:14:08 PM   
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Mothers are incapable of honesty then?

I never knew.


It has been said that Brown had a sealed juvenile record. I suppose the mother forgot about that.

Not that the juvenile record means anything pertinent to the shooting. It just means that he has a record.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 2:21:41 PM   
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Nice bit of digging there. Such a shame that it doesn't mean jack shit. The cop had no way of knowing Browns history and it has no bearing on his actions that day. And as far as his mom is concerned of course she said he was a good boy. He was her son for fucks sake. What did you think she was going to say.


Mothers are incapable of honesty then?

I never knew.

Not so much dishonesty as turning a blind eye to his faults.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 2:36:24 PM   
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Mothers are incapable of honesty then?

I never knew.


Don't worry...your mom meant it....honest...no shit...we all think you are a first class shit but moms tend to only see the good. Even if it takes an electron microscope.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 8:50:21 PM   
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Nice bit of digging there. Such a shame that it doesn't mean jack shit. The cop had no way of knowing Browns history and it has no bearing on his actions that day. And as far as his mom is concerned of course she said he was a good boy. He was her son for fucks sake. What did you think she was going to say.


Mothers are incapable of honesty then?

I never knew.

Not so much dishonesty as turning a blind eye to his faults.


Yes and to me a perfectly normal reaction. Especially coming right after she found out he was dead. That was her baby and her memories of him are going to be the kid she raised and loved. Not the street punk that he may have been when he grew up.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 9:39:06 PM   
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Nice bit of digging there. Such a shame that it doesn't mean jack shit. The cop had no way of knowing Browns history and it has no bearing on his actions that day. And as far as his mom is concerned of course she said he was a good boy. He was her son for fucks sake. What did you think she was going to say.


Mothers are incapable of honesty then?

I never knew.

Not so much dishonesty as turning a blind eye to his faults.


Yes and to me a perfectly normal reaction. Especially coming right after she found out he was dead. That was her baby and her memories of him are going to be the kid she raised and loved. Not the street punk that he may have been when he grew up.


Perhaps its different in your experience, but most mothers I know, know their sons extremely well. Denial I can understand, but even with denial one is aware at some level of the truth

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 9:46:16 PM   
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Nice bit of digging there. Such a shame that it doesn't mean jack shit. The cop had no way of knowing Browns history and it has no bearing on his actions that day. And as far as his mom is concerned of course she said he was a good boy. He was her son for fucks sake. What did you think she was going to say.


Mothers are incapable of honesty then?

I never knew.

Not so much dishonesty as turning a blind eye to his faults.


Yes and to me a perfectly normal reaction. Especially coming right after she found out he was dead. That was her baby and her memories of him are going to be the kid she raised and loved. Not the street punk that he may have been when he grew up.


Perhaps its different in your experience, but most mothers I know, know their sons extremely well. Denial I can understand, but even with denial one is aware at some level of the truth

Being aware at some level does not automatically translate into admitting it publicly. I have to give her pass on this one. I have seen parents who could see their kid doing bad stuff and deny to themselves that it happened.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 9:48:58 PM   
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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 10:00:16 PM   
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Being aware at some level does not automatically translate into admitting it publicly. I have to give her pass on this one. I have seen parents who could see their kid doing bad stuff and deny to themselves that it happened.

There was a case, maybe a year or two ago, I don't remember the details, and the mother was enduring the obligatory after-the-fact interview. She loved her son very much, she said. He had been a wonderful kid, and had brought her much joy. But he had started hanging around with some very bad fellows. She had done her best, she had discouraged and she had forbidden. But he wouldn't listen, and she knew that he would come to no good end. She was very sorry, she said, for what he had done.

I can't put into words how much I admired her courage and honesty. I am sick of watching mothers primp for the camera and whine on cue about what a "good boy" the thug was. In my opinion, parents like that are part of the reason why we have so many of them.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/30/2014 10:23:34 PM   
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Being aware at some level does not automatically translate into admitting it publicly. I have to give her pass on this one. I have seen parents who could see their kid doing bad stuff and deny to themselves that it happened.

There was a case, maybe a year or two ago, I don't remember the details, and the mother was enduring the obligatory after-the-fact interview. She loved her son very much, she said. He had been a wonderful kid, and had brought her much joy. But he had started hanging around with some very bad fellows. She had done her best, she had discouraged and she had forbidden. But he wouldn't listen, and she knew that he would come to no good end. She was very sorry, she said, for what he had done.

I can't put into words how much I admired her courage and honesty. I am sick of watching mothers primp for the camera and whine on cue about what a "good boy" the thug was. In my opinion, parents like that are part of the reason why we have so many of them.

K.

I think that it is an unfortunate combination of the "victim" mentality and the "if I raise him/her to think they're the best, they'll be the best (must build their self-esteem, reason for it or not)" mentality. Sadly, the reality in most cases is that they are not...in fact, they wind up as something less than the best. It's hard for these types of parents to face up to the reality of what their children are vs what their mothers "see" them as.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/31/2014 4:10:59 AM   
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Nice bit of digging there. Such a shame that it doesn't mean jack shit. The cop had no way of knowing Browns history and it has no bearing on his actions that day. And as far as his mom is concerned of course she said he was a good boy. He was her son for fucks sake. What did you think she was going to say.


Mothers are incapable of honesty then?

I never knew.

Not so much dishonesty as turning a blind eye to his faults.


Yes and to me a perfectly normal reaction. Especially coming right after she found out he was dead. That was her baby and her memories of him are going to be the kid she raised and loved. Not the street punk that he may have been when he grew up.


Perhaps its different in your experience, but most mothers I know, know their sons extremely well. Denial I can understand, but even with denial one is aware at some level of the truth



I never said she was not aware of the truth.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/31/2014 8:00:22 AM   
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Being aware at some level does not automatically translate into admitting it publicly. I have to give her pass on this one. I have seen parents who could see their kid doing bad stuff and deny to themselves that it happened.

There was a case, maybe a year or two ago, I don't remember the details, and the mother was enduring the obligatory after-the-fact interview. She loved her son very much, she said. He had been a wonderful kid, and had brought her much joy. But he had started hanging around with some very bad fellows. She had done her best, she had discouraged and she had forbidden. But he wouldn't listen, and she knew that he would come to no good end. She was very sorry, she said, for what he had done.

I can't put into words how much I admired her courage and honesty. I am sick of watching mothers primp for the camera and whine on cue about what a "good boy" the thug was. In my opinion, parents like that are part of the reason why we have so many of them.

K.


I agree on all counts.
When I said I had to give her a pass I meant that I wouldn't condemn her while taking everything she says with a block of salt.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/31/2014 12:34:35 PM   
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When I said I had to give her a pass I meant that I wouldn't condemn her while taking everything she says with a block of salt.


How much salt do you apply to the cops story?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 3:52:50 PM   
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Perhaps its different in your experience, but most mothers I know,


Are you speaking of the ones you introduce yourself to by stuffing a dollar bill into their g string?



know their sons extremely well. Denial I can understand, but even with denial one is aware at some level of the truth

What level of truth is your mother aware of?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 4:51:19 PM   
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I don't remember the details K.
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A propos of nothing...You would remember the details just fine, and give lots of dubious links too....if it suited your purpose

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 5:20:00 PM   
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I don't remember the details K.
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A propos of nothing...You would remember the details just fine, and give lots of dubious links too....if it suited your purpose


Its nice when other people arrive at the same conclusion I do with Kirata.....



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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 5:26:57 PM   
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I don't remember the details K.
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A propos of nothing...You would remember the details just fine, and give lots of dubious links too....if it suited your purpose

Maybe you should look at what he said rather than look for something to pick at.
Are you saying that you don't think any mother would admit that her kid did something wrong?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 5:33:33 PM   
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I don't remember the details K.
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A propos of nothing...You would remember the details just fine, and give lots of dubious links too....if it suited your purpose

Maybe you should look at what he said rather than look for something to pick at.
Are you saying that you don't think any mother would admit that her kid did something wrong?

Nope, not what I said at all, try again

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 5:42:54 PM   
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I don't remember the details K.
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A propos of nothing...You would remember the details just fine, and give lots of dubious links too....if it suited your purpose

Maybe you should look at what he said rather than look for something to pick at.
Are you saying that you don't think any mother would admit that her kid did something wrong?

Nope, not what I said at all, try again

No, you attacked him for not remembering the details of a mother saying her kid something wrong. And he posted it a week ago. Looks like you felt snarky and looked for someone to hit

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 8:57:53 PM   
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I don't remember the details

A propos of nothing...You would remember the details just fine, and give lots of dubious links too....if it suited your purpose

Its nice when other people arrive at the same conclusion I do with Kirata.....

So what are you two insinuating? What is this "conclusion" you've arrived at? C'mon boys, no guts no glory.

K.


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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/8/2014 9:32:42 PM   
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No, you attacked him for not remembering the details of a mother saying her kid something wrong. And he posted it a week ago. Looks like you felt snarky and looked for someone to hit

I'm not even sure what exactly the details of the story would contribute to the point I made.

But then, I don't think he and the penguin are either.

K.



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