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I hope this is but a start to other Muslims standing up to the radicals.

Amen.

The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), one the UK’s biggest representative bodies for Muslims in Britain, called the action ‘reprehensible’ and condemned the group’s ‘psychopathic violence’.

“We are horrified at the abhorrent murder of James Foley, a reporter who initially went to the region to expose the human rights abuses of the Syrian regime. ISIS [now the Islamic State] has murdered this man for no reason at all,” an MCB spokesperson said.

“ISIS does not speak for Islam, and has been repudiated by all Muslims. Their message only appeals to those who are easily duped by their twisted message purporting to be Islam. They seek to glamorize their violence, and unfortunately, the media has a part to play in adding to that glamor.”

http://rt.com/uk/181836-british-muslims-isis-foley/

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

No sillier than your belief that the Muslims of the world are coming to get you. Don't forget to check under the bed.

I'd have thought some of you guys would love this group. After all, they're standing up to government with armed force according to what they believe should happen -- including if you kill ours, we kill yours. Isn't that the mantra? What the founding fathers were all about, according to some of you?

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Not exactly

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Not exactly

Alas, no. Still, every ray of light pierces the darkness.

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That's all you've got?

Not exactly a convincing counter-argument.

Save the playground silliness. It stopped working in 6th grade.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
The only "fundamental" change to the way DC runs was to change which party was running the dog and pony show. The D's oppose Bush to get their person in. The R's will oppose the D President to get their own person in. All that "hope and change" shit was nothing more than rhetoric meant to increase emotional support. When Obama campaigned on "hope and change," "yes, we can," and "fundamentally transform Washington," people like me noted he wasn't actually saying anything specific. He was never pressed for anything beyond those catch phrases.
It was a brilliant strategy, really. Eight years of "Bush BAD," and all you had to do was run on "hope and change" and the other guy was nothing more than Bush III.
In 2012, the media (and people here) didn't let Romney get away with catch phrases and lip service. They pressed him for specifics, completely unlike how they treated Obama in 2008. Anyone who thinks that we left Iraq because Obama was in office is touched in the head. No matter who we elected, we'd have gotten out of Iraq. We'd have gotten bin Laden. We'd have gotten out of Afghanistan.

You are really denying that there are differences between the left and the right? Amazing.

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Brilliant strategy my ass. Its a series of propaganda campaigns, and its older than you and I put together

[sidebar]Is it really any wonder that the Left has been screaming "War on Women" more and more the last 4 years? Hillary isn't running? Unless something radical happens to her health, she's running.[/sidebar]

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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/08/muslims-condemn-isis.html
Long piece offering a variety of examples.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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That's all you've got?

Not exactly a convincing counter-argument.

Save the playground silliness. It stopped working in 6th grade.

I would much rather discuss politics than stoop to your level of discussion, MM. Pointing out how your posts depend almost entirely on logical fallacies is already giving them more attention than they deserve.

No need to wade into a pig sty with someone whose woeful style of debate is already self defeating

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Obama, McCain, or Clinton would have presided over the drawdown of the war in Iraq.

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The only way to get The Big Zero's attention (that's your Glorious Dear Leader 0bama) is for ISIS to film one of their terrorists cutting the head off a golf club. Pathetic "leadership" in the White House. The damage this creep has done to the USA will take years to untangle. Thanks to millions of moronic voters and a media that is totally in the bucket for the Kenyan/Indonesian socialist. After six years, do you know ANYTHING about this guys background?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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Obama, McCain, or Clinton would have presided over the drawdown of the war in Iraq.

Of course they would have. In such an irresponsible manner though? I seriously doubt that.
Even Hillary is roundly criticizing Obama for his handling of ISIS and Iraq

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Its already been pointed out that ISIL has been around over a decade, so you arent going to get an acknowledgement of being right DS.
Its SOP... stir the shit and then run.

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You do realize that the way Obama handled the draw down in Iraq really didn't have much to do with the current state of events there, right? ISIS didn't come about because of the way we left Iraq. ISIS was already there. ISIS has been fighting Assad in Syria.

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Its already been pointed out that ISIL has been around over a decade, so you arent going to get an acknowledgement of being right DS.
Its SOP... stir the shit and then run.

If you want to get technical it could be argued that they've been around in one form or another since the time of Muhammad

With regard to Obama though, its not a partisan thing, its a reality thing

Which is why Barack is being criticized from responsible people on the left for his severely mishandling the mushrooming ISIS issue

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I don't think he's ever traveled outside of the United States, and I suspect he does not own a passport or possess a library card either. He never really reads posted links and rarely offers valuable, illuminating information. He's very spirited though, sticking up for the white team and his version of apple pie.

My favorite posts by him are the ones with Obama smiling on the golf course. I also like the way he spells out Obama's name insinuating he's un-American or maybe even the antichrist.