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Sanity -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:26:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom The majority? What's that? 51% 80%? I challenge you to find one single major religion (why major? - because there may be some obscure tribe somewhere in the world that is worse, but that isn't my point) as supportive of pedophilia as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of genital mutilation as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of "slaughtering the infidels" as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion that wishes to impose the equivalent of a Caliphate over the rest of humanity and that has the equivalent of jizya for those who wish not to be killed. I challenge you to find one major religion with the equivalent of taqiyya, the advocacy of dissimulation with all outsiders in order to achieve its objectives. I challenge you to find one major religion that has committed even 1/100 the number of suicide bombings as Islam. I could provide more challenges, but there's no need. Oh, and by the way, since Islam is not a race, don't you fucking dare call me a racist. I don't give a damn what color anyone is. I care what their character and thoughts are. There are many good and decent Muslims but the religion itself is reprehensible And hating a reprehensible religion is nothing to be ashamed of. Whats curious is how Islam's apologists live with themselves, knowing what they know.

Lucylastic -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:26:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent Lucy, This just isn't true at all. UKIP are to all intents and purposes a conservative party. The only difference being that they have placed giving the European Union a swerve at the top of their agenda. Like it or not, most people in this country agree with them. If there was a referendum tomorrow what do you think the outcome would be? I'd say at the very least 75% would vote to come out of it. The problem in this country is that people are so wedded to dualistic politics, Labour or Conservative, in many cases out of tradition as opposed to what they have to say; that there simply is no room for an alternative. Regardless, on the Europe issue they have the backing of most of the country. UKIP are nothing like the National Front. The National Front are an extreme party that have pretty much no support in England; UKIP resonate with English people on many issues, particularly Europe. hiyas NG, that may well be true, I said it was my opinion...and from what I have heard / read I have a dim view of them The EU has been an issue since it started also. you should see some of my family stamping about the power limitations on the vaccum cleaner issue(yes honestly my knowledge IS deeper than just that.Im using it as an example) I have a very poor view of ALLLLL political parties. And the politicians It will NOT surprise me if they win, because like in the US AND Canada, people are sick of the "parties" they have. And with good reason. Hello Lucy, They certainly do have a few cranks in the party, usually disaffected Tory back benchers who were conceived from an altogether different age; but the majority speak for most of England. They will not 'win' because this country moves into the future with luggage from the past very much in tow, which means Labour and Conservative will continue to dominate the political landscape for the foreseeable future. But, where they undoubtedly will 'win' is on the Europe issue because it is absolutely nothing like what was sold to the British people in the 1970s. It was supposed to be a common market dominated by free trade which appealed to the English due to our history and political beliefs, but it has become a political union with unelected representatives which certainly does not resonate with our history and traditions. I mean, we fought wars in Europe to prevent one nation dominating European politics and to promote liberal politics (democracy, free trade, tolerance), so there is absolutely no chance this country can accept what we have today: a German dominated political union with unelected representatives and a complete lack of respect for democracy. The only reason we haven't had a referendum is because they know there will only be one outcome and that is to leave the European Union. As per usual, British politicians are attempting to strike a balance where we have a good relationship with Europe and a good relationship with the US, but it's not working because we don't have a good relationship with Europe: never have done and never will because they don't see life as we do and they largely remain wedded to centralised politics which is unEnglish. Put bluntly, 50 years post WW2 simply can't change the way Europeans say politics and life and it's a vision with which we will never agree upon. They will always have centralising tendencies and we don't, so it's marriage of convenience (or stupidity depending upon point of view) which is heading for divorce. I simply bow to your experienced take on the EU NG simply as I dont have the interest or the time to follow it, beyond what comes up in news feeds and things my vast fam in the UK talk about, which does lead to more research, but I gotta work for a living too:) I havent lived there for a quarter of a century now and that DOES make a difference.

crazyml -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:28:40 PM)
Read the report again. And you are the lair if you deny that you admitted that you would bring the topic of Rotherham up on other threads. You admitted that you would use it (presumably when getting your are kicked) to put UK posters off. It is sad to see you so desperate that you should tell such a blatant lie. It is there, on this thread, for all to see. Keep on with the gymnastics. Want to try the trampoline next?

Sanity -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:29:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic from the sublime to the fucking ridiculous, I was talking about your comments regarding PS being female and his political beliefs, get your head out of sanitys ass, you are choking on his hot air Did you fail the requirements needed to qualify for the typo Nazis

Politesub53 -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:30:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom While there is no place for racism, homophobia or mysogyny, I would suggest that anyone who is NOT an Islamophobe needs a reality check. I am proud to be an Islamophobe, just am I am proud to be a Nazi-phobe. There is really very little difference in terms of morality between the two, except that the Nazis want to live in this world with sole dominion, whereas the Muslims wish to spend eternity in "Paradise." The only reality check needed is to make I am not as racist as you. It was obvious someone would use this thread in the way you have constantly done, at least you didnt let me down. Let me remind you of one simple fact, the majority of Muslims in the UK are against child abuse and terrorism, and bullshit opinions like yours do little to help The majority? What's that? 51% 80%? I challenge you to find one single major religion (why major? - because there may be some obscure tribe somewhere in the world that is worse, but that isn't my point) as supportive of pedophilia as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of genital mutilation as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of "slaughtering the infidels" as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion that wishes to impose the equivalent of a Caliphate over the rest of humanity and that has the equivalent of jizya for those who wish not to be killed. I challenge you to find one major religion with the equivalent of taqiyya, the advocacy of dissimulation with all outsiders in order to achieve its objectives. I challenge you to find one major religion that has committed even 1/100 the number of suicide bombings as Islam. I could provide more challenges, but there's no need. Oh, and by the way, since Islam is not a race, don't you fucking dare call me a racist. I don't give a damn what color anyone is. I care what their character and thoughts are. Dickhead..... race doesnt have to be just about colour. So I will continue to use the term as and when. Do you think male circumcision isnt mutilation ? Do you think FGM is legal in most countires where it is carried out ? Do you think Islamophobes ask Asians if they are Christain, Muslim, Hindu or Budhist before they verbally attack or physically assault them. Do you think every Muslim in the world thinks the same abour terrorism and FGM ? Do you even think....... Somehow I fucking doubt it.

subrosaDom -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:31:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom The majority? What's that? 51% 80%? I challenge you to find one single major religion (why major? - because there may be some obscure tribe somewhere in the world that is worse, but that isn't my point) as supportive of pedophilia as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of genital mutilation as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of "slaughtering the infidels" as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion that wishes to impose the equivalent of a Caliphate over the rest of humanity and that has the equivalent of jizya for those who wish not to be killed. I challenge you to find one major religion with the equivalent of taqiyya, the advocacy of dissimulation with all outsiders in order to achieve its objectives. I challenge you to find one major religion that has committed even 1/100 the number of suicide bombings as Islam. I could provide more challenges, but there's no need. Oh, and by the way, since Islam is not a race, don't you fucking dare call me a racist. I don't give a damn what color anyone is. I care what their character and thoughts are. There are many good and decent Muslims but the religion itself is reprehensible And hating a reprehensible religion is nothing to be ashamed of. Whats curious is how Islam's apologists live with themselves, knowing what they know. Those who are good and decent are not actually following the religion as it is presently instantiated or, in my view, of how it can be instantiated. Not unless some Imam comes along and says that only what Mohammed said in Mecca is valid and that everything in Medina is invalid (the opposite of what the doctrine of supersession says today) is Islam something that could exist as a peaceful religion. The other alternative is to take the Quran and mix it with mysticism as the Sufis have done. I have no particular issue with Sufis.

NorthernGent -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:31:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I havent lived there for a quarter of a century now and that DOES make a difference. I'll fill you in on what you've missed, Lucy: it's now somewhere between 3 and 4 quid for a pint and as a result of this surge in beer prices the natives are restless. We're still no closer to winning the World Cup and the Germans won it again a couple of months back just to add insult to injury. Apart from that not much has happened in the last 25 years.

Lucylastic -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:35:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Subrosa you have no idea what you are fucking talking about AGAIN Ass Right, it was the Taoist hoards responsible for atrocities in Rotherham. Beheading in Syria and Iraq. Yep, I got that. from the sublime to the fucking ridiculous, I was talking about your comments regarding PS being female and his political beliefs, get your head out of sanitys ass, you are choking on his hot air If I referred to PS as female, that is my error. Other than that, I don't really give a damn if PS is male or female. My comments stand and have nothing to do with his sex, dominance or submission or any other predilections or phenotypal expressions. I made no "comments" on his being female other than perhaps the use of an incorrect pronoun. yes it is your error, and what do big boys do when they have made an error? I never accused you of using his "dominance or submission or any other predilections or phenotypal expressions." I clearly stated your comment was about his gender and his political views... read slower, that reek takes time to disperse

Kirata -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:40:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom Not unless some Imam comes along and says that only what Mohammed said in Mecca is valid and that everything in Medina is invalid (the opposite of what the doctrine of supersession says today) is Islam something that could exist as a peaceful religion. The doctrine is abrogation. But speaking more generally, and passing over the question of whether or not there even is a God, it seems abundantly clear that too many people worship a book instead. K.

subrosaDom -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:41:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom While there is no place for racism, homophobia or mysogyny, I would suggest that anyone who is NOT an Islamophobe needs a reality check. I am proud to be an Islamophobe, just am I am proud to be a Nazi-phobe. There is really very little difference in terms of morality between the two, except that the Nazis want to live in this world with sole dominion, whereas the Muslims wish to spend eternity in "Paradise." The only reality check needed is to make I am not as racist as you. It was obvious someone would use this thread in the way you have constantly done, at least you didnt let me down. Let me remind you of one simple fact, the majority of Muslims in the UK are against child abuse and terrorism, and bullshit opinions like yours do little to help The majority? What's that? 51% 80%? I challenge you to find one single major religion (why major? - because there may be some obscure tribe somewhere in the world that is worse, but that isn't my point) as supportive of pedophilia as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of genital mutilation as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of "slaughtering the infidels" as Islam. I challenge you to find one single major religion that wishes to impose the equivalent of a Caliphate over the rest of humanity and that has the equivalent of jizya for those who wish not to be killed. I challenge you to find one major religion with the equivalent of taqiyya, the advocacy of dissimulation with all outsiders in order to achieve its objectives. I challenge you to find one major religion that has committed even 1/100 the number of suicide bombings as Islam. I could provide more challenges, but there's no need. Oh, and by the way, since Islam is not a race, don't you fucking dare call me a racist. I don't give a damn what color anyone is. I care what their character and thoughts are. Dickhead..... race doesnt have to be just about colour. So I will continue to use the term as and when. Do you think male circumcision isnt mutilation ? Do you think FGM is legal in most countires where it is carried out ? Do you think Islamophobes ask Asians if they are Christain, Muslim, Hindu or Budhist before they verbally attack or physically assault them. Do you think every Muslim in the world thinks the same abour terrorism and FGM ? Do you even think....... Somehow I fucking doubt it. I love it when the ad hominems come up. That's always the sign of a strong argument. 1) Race can be about color or genetics. Islam is a belief system. Sorry, it doesn't qualify. No matter how tortuous your arguments. There is no genetic basis for being Islamic. If I converted to Islam would be DNA change? 2) Muslims practice male circumcision too. Second, when's the last time you saw the Jews raid a town and require circumcision for all the men. Sure, maybe you can't be a Jew. Fine. Other than that, what's the penalty? Nothing. Fake moral equivalence on your part. Male circumcision, while I don't support it and if I had a son, I wouldn't have it performed on him absent medical necessity, is at most equivalent to the removal of the clitoral hood. Removal of the clitoris is equivalent to a penectomy. I'm not aware of Jews advocating that or most forms of infibulation. So again you're wrong. 3) Islamophobes generally attack Asians (as in the British term for Pakistanis, etc.) after the Asians try to harm them. So your question is baiting and bullshit. Islamophobes hate Islam because of the violence perpetrated against them. I hate Islam and do you know how many Muslims I have personally harmed, directly or indirectly? Zero. 4) No. But a very high percentage of Muslims, according to Pew surveys, do support terrorism. In some countries it is a majority, in others a minority. Take a survey of other religions and see how many of them support terrorism. I'm not directly aware of FGM surveys, but due to cultural reasons, I am certain you would find much higher support among Muslims for it. Don't conflate 0.001% of psychotics in favor of terrorism vs. the anywhere from 10%-30% of Muslims in favor of it. It is an indictment of the religion itself. Because the religion is a political movement with political, jingoisitic objectives. All the ad hominems in the world won't change that, won't prevent ISIS, won't stop future Rotherhams. But it will support the revolting political correctness that enables Muslims to get away with their depredations.

subrosaDom -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:43:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Subrosa you have no idea what you are fucking talking about AGAIN Ass Right, it was the Taoist hoards responsible for atrocities in Rotherham. Beheading in Syria and Iraq. Yep, I got that. from the sublime to the fucking ridiculous, I was talking about your comments regarding PS being female and his political beliefs, get your head out of sanitys ass, you are choking on his hot air If I referred to PS as female, that is my error. Other than that, I don't really give a damn if PS is male or female. My comments stand and have nothing to do with his sex, dominance or submission or any other predilections or phenotypal expressions. I made no "comments" on his being female other than perhaps the use of an incorrect pronoun. yes it is your error, and what do big boys do when they have made an error? I never accused you of using his "dominance or submission or any other predilections or phenotypal expressions." I clearly stated your comment was about his gender and his political views... read slower, that reek takes time to disperse I acknowledged the error. What do you want -- a pound of flesh? As far as a comment about his gender, that's wrong. Use of an incorrect pronoun is that. I didn't comment otherwise on his gender, because his views have the same invalidity regardless of that. You completely miss the rest of my point, but that's what happens when your eyes look too much at your own navel rather than out at the world.

subrosaDom -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:45:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom Not unless some Imam comes along and says that only what Mohammed said in Mecca is valid and that everything in Medina is invalid (the opposite of what the doctrine of supersession says today) is Islam something that could exist as a peaceful religion. The doctrine is abrogation. But speaking more generally, and passing over the question of whether or not there even is a God, it seems abundantly clear that too many people worship a book instead. K. Yes, thank you, you're correct. I couldn't think of the correct word as I was writing, so I used a close synonym. As far as the rest of your comment, very true. But if you're going to worship a book, I'd recommend Harry Potter over the Quran.

truckinslave -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 12:53:00 PM)
quote: You at least should know that this is only a small minority of the Muslims in the UK. More British Muslims fight for ISIS than for the UK. What % of the UK is now Muslim? You do know that adherence to religion takes precedence over loyalty to a nation, right?

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 1:00:40 PM)
ORIGINAL: subrosaDom The majority? What's that? 51% 80%? I challenge you to find one single major religion (why major? - because there may be some obscure tribe somewhere in the world that is worse, but that isn't my point) as supportive of pedophilia as Islam. Some might consider it institutionalized as a matter of christian threology and national policy. Besides the u.s. where else did national leaders sell their own children into slavery? I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of genital mutilation as Islam. Many christians especially catholics and jews circumcise/mutilate the genitalia of infants. I challenge you to find one single major religion as supportive of "slaughtering the infidels" as Islam. Christians not only seek to murder their opponents but also consign them to the everlasting fires of hell. The Bhudhist have a long history of violence as do the hindi and the sikh. Then of course there is shinto which glorifies suicidal expressions of extreme ntionalism. Yeah I think we could go through all of the major and all of the minor and find enough hate to fill your hat and your pockets. I challenge you to find one single major religion that wishes to impose the equivalent of a Caliphate over the rest of humanity and that has the equivalent of jizya for those who wish not to be killed. Wow..,you can buy a get out of jail free card???....when you put it like that islam seems a little less scary.

truckinslave -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 1:04:41 PM)
quote: For most Muslims (at least the ones I know or have met), Sharia law and religious followings come way before any English law And that's the way it should be. No Jew puts federal law before the Torah. No Christian puts federal law before the Bible. quote: Just the same with arranged marriages and honour killings - it is 'normal' within their society. The problem is not just that it's normal in their society; it's that they believe it to be required by their God.

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 1:04:50 PM)
ORIGINAL: Sanity There are many good and decent Muslims but the religion itself is reprehensible There are many good and decent christians but the religion itself is reprehensible And hating a reprehensible religion is nothing to be ashamed of. Hating seems to be one of the few things you are good at. Whats curious is how Islam's apologists live with themselves, knowing what they know. What is curious is how right wing assholes live with themselves knowing what they know.

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 1:11:13 PM)
ORIGINAL: truckinslave You do know that adherence to religion takes precedence over loyalty to a nation, right? In your zip code catholics are loyal to rome before washington and jews would be loyal to tel avive before washington???????

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 1:16:29 PM)
ORIGINAL: truckinslave For most Muslims (at least the ones I know or have met), Sharia law and religious followings come way before any English law And that's the way it should be. If you do not like the constitution of my country then get the fuck out. No Jew puts federal law before the Torah. Then that punkassmotherfucker needs to get the fuck out of my country. No Christian puts federal law before the Bible. Then that punkassmotherfucker needs to get the fuck out of my country. Just the same with arranged marriages and honour killings - it is 'normal' within their society. Wow just like in alabama The problem is not just that it's normal in their society; it's that they believe it to be required by their God. Yup...that would be alabama.

truckinslave -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 1:17:30 PM)
quote: You have posters claiming that it was "only" 88 a year. Really disgusting to see the lengths to which some people will go to minimize and rationalize evil.

Politesub53 -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/31/2014 1:18:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave quote: You at least should know that this is only a small minority of the Muslims in the UK. More British Muslims fight for ISIS than for the UK. What % of the UK is now Muslim? You do know that adherence to religion takes precedence over loyalty to a nation, right? All I know is you are an ignorant prick, who I have called racist and or Islamophbic more than once. Read your post slowly and try and work out why I think like I do.

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