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Politesub53 -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:26:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Nothing says love like being doused with gas and threatened to be set on fire for complaining. Nothing says love like having yourself or your father jailed for objecting. I must be doing "love" wrong in my house. Good to see that you too have read the report Aylee. I know what I am saying as I read every single page. From memory thats a figure of 140 plus pages. I dont expect anyone to read every page but it would help if one did so before being critical of my posts.

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:32:47 PM)
ORIGINAL: subrosaDom But on the other hand I am absolutely sure you would agree with a special condemnation of Nazism or Maoism. Now those are not religions; they are political movements. What precisely is your condemnation of maoism? As is precisely with Islam. Islam is a political movement under the cover of religion. Wow not at all unlike khristians....hmmmm since they come hundreds of years later it may be that they saw a good scam and decided to listen up? It is jingoistically bent on world-domination, Did you think the capitalist would just invite them in for some pussy and pancakes? on the establishment of the Caliphate over all others, including either death to the infidels or their paying a jizya in order to have permission to live in the Caliphate. Here they just chuck your ass in jail with some no neck gent named bubba for not paying your tax. I condemn Islam as a political movement with dangerous, evil beliefs, not as a religion with foolish beliefs. Why not the rest of the punkassmotherfuckers who are trying to jack your wallet and steal your children? Or do you feel that a body bag and a flag is fair recompense for blood of your blood? To your point about individuals, are there individual Muslims who don't understand this and who are innocents? Yes. Just as there were individual members of the Nazi party who likely didn't truly hate Jews, gays, gypsies, etc. and there were individual Maoists who were illiterate and had never read Mao's little red book. Most estimates, including even ones made by liberal organizations such as Pew, put the number of seriously radicalized Muslims at over 100 million and possible up to 275 to 300 million. Muslims almost never condemn any atrocity You also have been strangely silent about the u.s. govts unprovoked assaults on a civil society? When in your life have you ever actively and passionately condemned any military action by the u.s. govt agains a civil society? (except ISIS), because they are scared or because they don't get it. Geert Wilders lives under 24/7 protection. Salman Rushdie did for years and still is very careful. Where is the Catholic critic who fears for his life from the Pope or any Bishop or Cardinal? I know that jack hawkins still has a marine body guard detatchment to protect him from kuban khristian komandos.

Aylee -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:34:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer FR Folks, please. This Rotherham affair has rocked almost everyone in this country. It comes on top of a string of hideous child abuse cases in other quarters, too. Can we at least try to minimise the ugliness on this thread? And what happened in Rochdale didn't rock the country? You have posters claiming that it was "only" 88 a year. Which I guess makes it okay? If we work the numbers and it turns out that their were less than 88 victims a year with the Catholic priest thing, do they a pass too? Shit like this is evil. But none dare call it evil? Instead we see excuses being made. How many victims does it take?

subrosaDom -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:36:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: subrosaDom But on the other hand I am absolutely sure you would agree with a special condemnation of Nazism or Maoism. Now those are not religions; they are political movements. What precisely is your condemnation of maoism? As is precisely with Islam. Islam is a political movement under the cover of religion. Wow not at all unlike khristians....hmmmm since they come hundreds of years later it may be that they saw a good scam and decided to listen up? It is jingoistically bent on world-domination, Did you think the capitalist would just invite them in for some pussy and pancakes? on the establishment of the Caliphate over all others, including either death to the infidels or their paying a jizya in order to have permission to live in the Caliphate. Here they just chuck your ass in jail with some no neck gent named bubba for not paying your tax. I condemn Islam as a political movement with dangerous, evil beliefs, not as a religion with foolish beliefs. Why not the rest of the punkassmotherfuckers who are trying to jack your wallet and steal your children? Or do you feel that a body bag and a flag is fair recompense for blood of your blood? To your point about individuals, are there individual Muslims who don't understand this and who are innocents? Yes. Just as there were individual members of the Nazi party who likely didn't truly hate Jews, gays, gypsies, etc. and there were individual Maoists who were illiterate and had never read Mao's little red book. Most estimates, including even ones made by liberal organizations such as Pew, put the number of seriously radicalized Muslims at over 100 million and possible up to 275 to 300 million. Muslims almost never condemn any atrocity You also have been strangely silent about the u.s. govts unprovoked assaults on a civil society? When in your life have you ever actively and passionately condemned any military action by the u.s. govt agains a civil society? (except ISIS), because they are scared or because they don't get it. Geert Wilders lives under 24/7 protection. Salman Rushdie did for years and still is very careful. Where is the Catholic critic who fears for his life from the Pope or any Bishop or Cardinal? I know that jack hawkins still has a marine body guard detatchment to protect him from kuban khristian komandos. thompsonx I have finally figured out who you are. You are Obama's personal consultant, because there is no one better than you at deflecting questions, employing logical fallacies, raising entirely unrelated issues or attacking the messenger. I must say, you have taught him well. As for Maoism, you're right. What could I possibly say that is bad about a philosophy that destroyed individual freedom, eliminated the arts and made everyone prisoners of the state. Maybe I was wrong and you're really an old Shining Path member in hiding.

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:38:06 PM)
ORIGINAL: subrosaDom This is enablement by religion. Nothing you are referring to even comes close to that. Some describe the US as a Christian country. Many others, Founding Fathers included, favored reason, and hence were Deists. There is a big difference between using Christianity to justify atrocities today and happening to be a psychotic Christian who commits an atrocity. Muslims justify their acts, their jihad, their beheadings, everything, through the words of the Quran. Wasn't it a khristian krackhead fanatic who stood up in front of an international audience and proclaimed that "jesus christ was his hero"? Wasn't it that same punkassmotherfucker who put boots on the ground in the name of our moral obligation to gawdalmighty?

NorthernGent -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:39:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic so are you saying that "christian peoples" dont have people who behead others ? really??? what about stabbing? poison, gas, shooting, batter, dismember, beat, rape, torture, mass murder others of the same "christian peoples"? we have seen on this site in the past few weeks, the number of people who justify deaths of supposed "thugs" most of them have some religious affiliation or are actually in what is described as a "christian" country. Tunnel vision at best. Who doesn't know they had to reinvent airport security on account of Catholic nuns Airport security doesn't have to be 're-invented' anyway. Back in the early 1900s people were free to travel anywhere in the world with no need for a passport let alone strict 'security' measures, and there were terrorist organisations in those days. What's changed is that we've been convinced that we're all going to die unless we're stopped and searched.

Aylee -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:40:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Nothing says love like being doused with gas and threatened to be set on fire for complaining. Nothing says love like having yourself or your father jailed for objecting. I must be doing "love" wrong in my house. Good to see that you too have read the report Aylee. I know what I am saying as I read every single page. From memory thats a figure of 140 plus pages. I dont expect anyone to read every page but it would help if one did so before being critical of my posts. Because terrorizing a child into silence or compliance is NOT a fucking form of "love." Neither is Battered Woman's Syndrome. Neither is Stockholm Syndrome. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES!

Politesub53 -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:44:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Because terrorizing a child into silence or compliance is NOT a fucking form of "love." Neither is Battered Woman's Syndrome. Neither is Stockholm Syndrome. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES! Dont put words in my mouth. I have never blamed anybody other than the perpertrators. You stupid remarks show you "Still" havent read the report. I did say the girls were looking for love, some even claimed they loved the victim, that doesnt mean I think that makes it okay and saying it does only makes you look like a silly.

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:49:34 PM)
ORIGINAL: subrosaDom What I see is changing the subject to another time period. The subject is atrocities not time period as you would like to have us believe. It is with a bloody hand you point the finger of guilt. That would be the basic definition of a punk.

subrosaDom -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:52:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: subrosaDom What I see is changing the subject to another time period. The subject is atrocities not time period as you would like to have us believe. It is with a bloody hand you point the finger of guilt. That would be the basic definition of a punk. I admit it. I'm really Johnny Rotten.

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:52:24 PM)
ORIGINAL: subrosaDom 88/year in a town of 257,000. Many were raped repeatedly. Many thing the numbers are significantly underestimated. No, that doesn't happen in my town. Or I would wager most others. You can do a lot of things with numbers but manipulations don't make your points valid. You miss the point completely. Dick the dumb lives in a crime infested shithole called los angeles county and this is his feeble attempt to show that his is not the only shithole in the world...nothing more.

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 1:59:31 PM)
ORIGINAL: subrosaDom Multiculturalism is not in the constitution. You might want to take a little closer look at the equal protection clause of the 14th ammndment...and have someone send out for a prybar to get your feet out of your mouth. Which Christians want world domination today? It would seem pretty clear that the u.s. is seeking world domination but then the non christian countries of russia and china are doing the same. Pope Francis? Which support it with the Bible? Where are these demands? And I mean Christian spokespeople, not a finding that Jeffrey Dahmer or another certified psychopath was technically a Christian. Like the sociopath who proclaimed to the international community that his imaginary friend jesus khrist was his bff?Just before he sent the army,navy,air farce,marine corps and mercinary thugs to attack a nation that had caused us no problems?

PeonForHer -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:02:04 PM)
quote: And what happened in Rochdale didn't rock the country? Shit like this is evil. But none dare call it evil? Instead we see excuses being made. Who the hell is making excuses, Aylee? What are you talking about?

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:02:11 PM)
ORIGINAL: Sanity In "Christian" countries, such acts are universally criminal while in many Islamic states the government carries out or condones many such deeds Tell us which are the christian countries? Is any country that abhors such deeds ipso facto christian? Do you just pull your head out of your ass to puke this childish drivel?

Aylee -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:05:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Because terrorizing a child into silence or compliance is NOT a fucking form of "love." Neither is Battered Woman's Syndrome. Neither is Stockholm Syndrome. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES! Dont put words in my mouth. I have never blamed anybody other than the perpertrators. You stupid remarks show you "Still" havent read the report. I did say the girls were looking for love, some even claimed they loved the victim, that doesnt mean I think that makes it okay and saying it does only makes you look like a silly. Professor Jay wrote: “It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered. They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten, and intimidated.” You wrote: "They have now found a form of love which they didnt get from their family." Intimidation precludes it being a "form of love." These girls were targeted for being white. The victims are vulnerable young white girls from poor backgrounds, and their assailants target them because they view them as worthless and immoral, and, in the words of former Labour Home Secretary Jack Straw, “easy meat“ The first rule of a terrorist is to terrorize. As a widow with two white children (okay, part Native American) with one being a daughter, I would certainly feel terror in these communities. Especially since it is not the only one.

PeonForHer -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:06:09 PM)
quote: Peon. I meant it in exactly the way he thought. It says as much in the report on page 37. I think its section 5. Yeah, but you didn't put the word "love" in inverted commas, PS. Fatal. Here, that means you condone it. Love is by definition 'always a good and desirable thing', remember?

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:07:20 PM)
ORIGINAL: Aylee You have posters claiming that it was "only" 88 a year. You know that is not true. You know that you are a punkassmotherfucking liar. You are the only punkassmotherfucker who claims tat it was only 88 a year. Which I guess makes it okay? What kind of a punkassmotherfucker are you to believe that sort of behaviour is okay?

thompsonx -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:14:27 PM)
ORIGINAL: subrosaDom As for Maoism, you're right. Right????I asked you a question nothing more. If you do not know the answer then shut the fuck up. What could I possibly say that is bad about a philosophy that destroyed individual freedom, Perhaps you might elucidate about the individual freedoms that the nationalist under chaing kai scheck possessed that they lost under mao? eliminated the arts So far we only have your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion and not a bit more. and made everyone prisoners of the state. With the whole country in prison who were the guards? Who produced the food for all of these prisoners? How did they produce a nuclear weapon? Who built the schools that taugh the scientists how to chuck crap into outer space? Maybe I was wrong

Aylee -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:14:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: And what happened in Rochdale didn't rock the country? Shit like this is evil. But none dare call it evil? Instead we see excuses being made. Who the hell is making excuses, Aylee? What are you talking about? Well, first their was the excuse of "we don't want to be accused of racism." A little weird since neither Muslim or Pakistani is a race. Then: There were only 88 a year. It was a minority. It was a form of love. The Christians did worse historically. I do not care about any of those excuses. People who commit these types of inhumanities have violated the social contract to the extent that they have forsworn the protections of the social contract. They should be put down or put out of society.

Aylee -> RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up (8/30/2014 2:16:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: And what happened in Rochdale didn't rock the country? Shit like this is evil. But none dare call it evil? Instead we see excuses being made. Who the hell is making excuses, Aylee? What are you talking about? It is only a minority. There were only 88 a year. They were giving a form of love. The Christians have been worse throughout history. And heck, at least they were not being fostered to conservatives. I personally believe that people that commit these acts have violated the social contract and therefore no longer receive the protections of the social contract and have forfeited the protections of it. Kill them or eject them from society.

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