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Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 7:46:18 AM   
MariaB


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Status: offline 		I’ve never understood why some posters feel the need to correct every stray comma in another persons post. I have become a pro at biting my proverbial tongue at the pedants who are incapable at reading a post that isn’t grammatically correct or has a few stray spelling mistakes. Do such people not have the intelligence to work out what is being said when someone has used anything less than the perfect use of an apostrophe?. Instead of grasping what a poster is saying, they instead quote the mistakes, taking the subject off topic so they can lord their superior knowledge over them.

I particularly hate the fact that so many of these pedants think we are all on their side. That we want to join in this unforgivable public mocking. Yes, we know 'uninterested' isn’t the same as 'disinterested' and that, ‘their’ doesn’t mean the same as ‘there’ but most of us aren’t bothered. I mean, there isn't a book in the world that turns up on a publishers desk perfectly prepared and ready for print.


How many people here believe that grammar and spelling is a reliable indication of intelligence?

Does a missing apostrophe stop you in your tracks?

Do you wish that grammar and spelling pedants could relax?

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 8:09:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bad grammar detracts from what the poster is trying to convey. Beating them down about their grammar just causes ill will. Why post if it is so bad you can only see the errors?

I do not correct people. Why correct the obvious?

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 8:38:42 AM   
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Bad grammar detracts from what the poster is trying to convey. Beating them down about their grammar just causes ill will. Why post if it is so bad you can only see the errors?

I do not correct people. Why correct the obvious?


Your right, it does cause ill will. It also causes distress for some people.



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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 8:46:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm more tolerant of some typos and grammatical errors than other. I abhor text speak types of writing. U is a letter, not a word.

When it is constant and makes it difficult to understand (punctuation matters) then, to me, when on a forum, email or profile, it is a sign of laziness. When I was searching, I wasn't looking for a lazy dom. It shows a lack of attention to detail. If he won't be careful with his words, how careful would he be with me?

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 8:48:49 AM   
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Your right, it does cause ill will.




Was that on purpose? LOL

In answer to your question, from my experience, the times that I usually see the grammar police coming out is when they have nothing of substance to say, yet still feel the need to put a poster "in their place". IMO, it just makes them look petty.

I enjoy reading well-written posts, but also have the capability to "read through" misspellings and errant apostrophes. Shoot, if I have the ability to understand some of the texts I get with the "auto-fill" mistakes, certainly a spelling mistake or two isn't a big deal.

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 8:56:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nine times out of ten, Ill give the poster the benefit of the doubt, apostrophes especially. I am extremely lazy with them,
But Ill use an example I brought up the other day as an example

SUBORDINATE MASCULINE SERVITUDE/MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL INTERDEPENDENCE Greetings to you has a Dominant Woman Madame, Welcome to my world, where your Mistress is Always right! I will push your limits and make you my pet, and you will worship Me as I see fit! I am highly intelligent and well-educated. I have been in the lifestyle for many years. I believe in ... Every Dominant Woman being different requires a variety of things from her potential male slave property.


I understand gibberish, I understand typo, and other grammar issues, but that email was making my eyes itch, what was he trying to say, there are several ways it could be taken.

I have to admit, I have my good days and my bad days. Somedays I want to point out every mistake I see, other days I want to laugh at people who moan about people moaning, knowing that Im just as guilty.


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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 9:03:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Nine times out of ten, Ill give the poster the benefit of the doubt, apostrophes especially. I am extremely lazy with them,
But Ill use an example I brought up the other day as an example

SUBORDINATE MASCULINE SERVITUDE/MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL INTERDEPENDENCE Greetings to you has a Dominant Woman Madame, Welcome to my world, where your Mistress is Always right! I will push your limits and make you my pet, and you will worship Me as I see fit! I am highly intelligent and well-educated. I have been in the lifestyle for many years. I believe in ... Every Dominant Woman being different requires a variety of things from her potential male slave property.


I understand gibberish, I understand typo, and other grammar issues, but that email was making my eyes itch, what was he trying to say, there are several ways it could be taken.

I have to admit, I have my good days and my bad days. Somedays I want to point out every mistake I see, other days I want to laugh at people who moan about people moaning, knowing that Im just as guilty.



And if they say they are "highly intelligent and well-educated" and have a profile like that, it tells me they are a liar as well. Someone well-educated would use punctuation when trying to communicate in a written format.


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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 9:14:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Bad grammar detracts from what the poster is trying to convey. Beating them down about their grammar just causes ill will. Why post if it is so bad you can only see the errors?

I do not correct people. Why correct the obvious?



The bolded portion above (my bolding) is my principal complaint with these types of posts.

While I do not feel the need to play the role of grammar policeman by posting comments consisting solely of corrections of other's posts (the OP is correct - those responses do tend to derail a thread), I readily admit to becoming distracted from the content when I read a comment where the writer apparently does not understand the difference between there, their, and they're, or between affect and effect, etc., etc.

I know no one is perfect and it's a big, sloppy world where we all reside and interact, and yes, typos do happen (I am as guilty as anyone in that regard). But when someone apparently does not know (or maybe doesn't care) about when to use to, too, or two in a sentence, I think it diminishes their post to some degree.


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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 9:15:56 AM   
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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 9:31:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: MariaB


Your right, it does cause ill will.




Was that on purpose? LOL




You got me but then the English language makes no sense to me. Why for example do we have noses that run and feet that smell?.



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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 9:48:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MariaB

I’ve never understood why some posters feel the need to correct every stray comma in another persons post. I have become a pro at biting my proverbial tongue at the pedants who are incapable at reading a post that isn’t grammatically correct or has a few stray spelling mistakes. Do such people not have the intelligence to work out what is being said when someone has used anything less than the perfect use of an apostrophe?. Instead of grasping what a poster is saying, they instead quote the mistakes, taking the subject off topic so they can lord their superior knowledge over them.

I particularly hate the fact that so many of these pedants think we are all on their side. That we want to join in this unforgivable public mocking. Yes, we know 'uninterested' isn’t the same as 'disinterested' and that, ‘their’ doesn’t mean the same as ‘there’ but most of us aren’t bothered. I mean, there isn't a book in the world that turns up on a publishers desk perfectly prepared and ready for print.


How many people here believe that grammar and spelling is a reliable indication of intelligence?

Does a missing apostrophe stop you in your tracks?

Do you wish that grammar and spelling pedants could relax?


They are just trying to save us from first date subtitles. I've been victimized over and over again when meeting for the first time and the subtitles start to scroll as the conversation moves on. It does bother me a bit that the sponsor puts the closed captions across her tits, because she immediately assumes I'm just staring at her boobs rather than reading the subtitles of the conversation, then decries shenanigans, as if I am some kind of perv.... Wait....

Grammar is not indicative of intelligence, it is rote memorization. Just like when you tell Ubu to sit.

Jus sayin

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 9:49:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MariaB


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: MariaB


Your right, it does cause ill will.




Was that on purpose? LOL




You got me but then the English language makes no sense to me. Why for example do we have noses that run and feet that smell?.




Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

Jus wunnerin


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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 9:53:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think people need to have a little more patience but I would say that wouldn't I

Whilst grammar and spelling is not a reliable indication of intelligence, there are plenty of people who were never afforded a solid education. Others were but somehow fell by the wayside when they couldn't progress at the same speed as their peers. Not all of us have the same brain capacity and not all of us will speak English as a first language.

I'm fairly good at expressing myself but that wasn't always the case. As a child I had dyspraxia and found the spoken language extremely difficult. From the moment I picked up a pencil I put my d's and b's backwards and my sentence structure was all over the place. Fortunately dyslexia never affected my mathematics and it turned out I have a fairly high IQ. Until internet forums came along, I avoided writing anything down. I can honestly say that from the years of writing much rubbish to forum groups like this, my writing has improved enormously. Perhaps if my spelling was perfect I would barely notice the pedants. As it happens, I have a bloody great chip on my shoulder

If there is such a thing as reincarnation I want to be born in a land were everything is spelt phonetically and the same word can't mean two different things!.


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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 10:03:01 AM   
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That's just unamerican, Haji!

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 10:20:41 AM   
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Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

Jus wunnerin



That is a good one, though we don't have parkways here in Blighty.

This was contributed by another poster....

Capitalisation/punctuation: The difference between 'helping your Uncle Jack off a horse', and, 'helping your uncle, jack off a horse'.

Edited for grammatical error


< Message edited by MariaB -- 9/3/2014 10:21:32 AM >

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 10:25:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sizing up posts. . . subtly tells us worlds, about others. Poor language use, suggests a non-schooled upbringing. This is a small part of their personality, but good to know.

Posters who label themselves intelligent, tells us something right there. And when they often say it in poor language, it screams lack of self knowledge.

People who snap back at language mistakes, suggest their slight OCD in some regards. And they might be unsatisfactory Dominants for all, except perhaps those seeking verbal humiliation.

Posters who call their adversaries, school-house names, tells us they are accustomed to letting their emotions rule. And would only be satisfactory Dominants perhaps for those seeking rage.

Political posters who antagonize, the very same way, with the very same people, over and over, tell us how inherently dull they would be to live with.

PS .. There is absolutely nothing wrong with text-speak or hip-hop dialect when used by responsible adults.
Yes, U has been a one-letter word for many decades, and the sky never fell once.


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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 10:50:43 AM   
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PS .. There is absolutely nothing wrong with text-speak or hip-hop dialect when used by responsible adults.
Yes, U has been a one-letter word for many decades, and the sky never fell once.



That's one of my personal pet peeves. I could understand it back in the day of texting on the phone without the benefit of a full keyboard. Now? It just irks me to no end. It's not even like the letters "y" and "o" are so far away from the "u". At least make a pretense of *trying*.

But, yes, the sky has not fallen due to this, and it's not likely to anytime in the near future. For *me* it's just a ridiculous anachronism.

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 10:52:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bad grammar, writing style etc bugs me. There is a particular pleasure in reading a piece of writing that is well laid out, well written and punctuated correctly.

However I accept that that is a kink of mine.

For others writing is about communication, nothing more, if they write something that gets the point across then it is a perfunctory piece of writing and nothing else needs be done.

I imagine if I dated someone with that attitude they would very quickly bother me - as I imagine my fascination with words would annoy her.

I don't see language usage as a marker of intelligence, I've known some fabulously intelligent people who wrote abysmally, I simply see it as a mark of compatibility.

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 10:56:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

Sizing up posts. . . subtly tells us worlds, about others. Poor language use, suggests a non-schooled upbringing. This is a small part of their personality, but good to know.

Posters who label themselves intelligent, tells us something right there. And when they often say it in poor language, it screams lack of self knowledge.




/agree

Because adhering to the acceptable format makes one quite the cookie-cutter poster. I mean, it is entirely self defeating to utilize vernacular, word play, or phonetics to reveal to a reader that you may be an individual that has a unique personality. We don't stand for that here in Stepford, fuckers!

Jus sayin

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RE: Grammatical Pedantry! - 9/3/2014 11:20:21 AM   
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