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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Aylee, he can't give you a cite because there isn't one to be found. Not with googling his ratio of mentally ill conservatives to mentally ill leberals nor with the simple, non-biased phrase "number of mentally ill conservatives versus number of mentally ill liberals". There is:

A survey (a hint...higher numbers on the bad side for democrats)
www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/what-your-politics-say-about-your-mental-health

An article:
www.neuropolitics.org/anxiety-depression-and-goal-seeking-in-conservatives-liberals-moderates.htm

Another article, not specifically about mental illness but about a type of mental health. Comes from William F Buckley's magazine:
www.nationalreview.com/articles/253768/why-unhappy-people-become-liberals-dennis-prager

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

The author complains that the gains disappear by the fourth grade. Logically then the place to look is after Pre-K. Why aren't the kids advancing at the same pace or at least maintaining? The reason for that is well known, the 180 day school year and long summer vacation.

You're just making shit up. The reasons for the fade-out effect are far from clear, let alone "well known," and among the factors that do appear to be correlated the length of the school year is conspicuously absent.

Head Start Research and Evaluation, Final Report, August 2012

K.

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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Common core was put in place by the department of education which is a federal program if Im not mistaken...

and the standards are bullshit

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Examples of CC Standards

CCSS.Math.Content.5.NBT.A.2
Explain patterns in the number of zeros of the product when multiplying a number by powers of 10, and explain patterns in the placement of the decimal point when a decimal is multiplied or divided by a power of 10. Use whole-number exponents to denote powers of 10.

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CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.4
Understand that a two-dimensional figure is similar to another if the second can be obtained from the first by a sequence of rotations, reflections, translations, and dilations; given two similar two-dimensional figures, describe a sequence that exhibits the similarity between them.

CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.5
Use informal arguments to establish facts about the angle sum and exterior angle of triangles, about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal, and the angle-angle criterion for similarity of triangles.

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They also allow for no deviation for the way other people might learn:

For example Division is taught currently in 6th grade, that you are to manually do a problem as follows

6/150

Six times 10 is 60 six times 20 is 20 six times 25 is 150 so 6/150 is 25 and you are to do multiplication and add your numbers up in a guess instead of going

6 goes into 15 twice with the remainder of 3, bring down the zero and you have 30 six goes in to 30 5 times, the answers 25.

Because of this instead of being able to do 10 to 20 math problems in an hour course you might be able to do 3 or 4, which means less practical skill is taught, you also spend longer explaining the "cc standard way" then the normal long division way, and if you deviate in most schools in my state as an example your given an F even if you come to the correct answer.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Aylee, he can't give you a cite because there isn't one to be found. Not with googling his ratio of mentally ill conservatives to mentally ill leberals nor with the simple, non-biased phrase "number of mentally ill conservatives versus number of mentally ill liberals". There is:

A survey (a hint...higher numbers on the bad side for democrats)
www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/what-your-politics-say-about-your-mental-health

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Common core was put in place by the department of education which is a federal program if Im not mistaken...

and the standards are bullshit

Nope. It was developed by the National Governors Association. The feds had nothing to do with it.

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Examples of CC Standards

CCSS.Math.Content.5.NBT.A.2
Explain patterns in the number of zeros of the product when multiplying a number by powers of 10, and explain patterns in the placement of the decimal point when a decimal is multiplied or divided by a power of 10. Use whole-number exponents to denote powers of 10.

Basic to understanding multiplication

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CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.4
Understand that a two-dimensional figure is similar to another if the second can be obtained from the first by a sequence of rotations, reflections, translations, and dilations; given two similar two-dimensional figures, describe a sequence that exhibits the similarity between them.

CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.5
Use informal arguments to establish facts about the angle sum and exterior angle of triangles, about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal, and the angle-angle criterion for similarity of triangles.

basic geometry

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They also allow for no deviation for the way other people might learn:

For example Division is taught currently in 6th grade, that you are to manually do a problem as follows

6/150

Six times 10 is 60 six times 20 is 20 six times 25 is 150 so 6/150 is 25 and you are to do multiplication and add your numbers up in a guess instead of going

6 goes into 15 twice with the remainder of 3, bring down the zero and you have 30 six goes in to 30 5 times, the answers 25.

Because of this instead of being able to do 10 to 20 math problems in an hour course you might be able to do 3 or 4, which means less practical skill is taught, you also spend longer explaining the "cc standard way" then the normal long division way, and if you deviate in most schools in my state as an example your given an F even if you come to the correct answer.

That stuff is not in the CC standard. Your state may have that stuff in but that is not the fault of CC. You quoted the CC standards above and they include nothing about how a specific item is to be taught. Just that it is to be covered and in which grade and in roughly what order. BTW division is taught long before 6th grade. The standard starts teaching it in 3rd grade.

The great thing about the standards is that people can go read them and see through all the negative hype.
http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

You can easily see for yourself that there is no 6th grade requirement remotely like what you quoted.

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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Common core was put in place by the department of education which is a federal program if Im not mistaken...

and the standards are bullshit

Nope. It was developed by the National Governors Association. The feds had nothing to do with it.

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Examples of CC Standards

CCSS.Math.Content.5.NBT.A.2
Explain patterns in the number of zeros of the product when multiplying a number by powers of 10, and explain patterns in the placement of the decimal point when a decimal is multiplied or divided by a power of 10. Use whole-number exponents to denote powers of 10.

Basic to understanding multiplication

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CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.4
Understand that a two-dimensional figure is similar to another if the second can be obtained from the first by a sequence of rotations, reflections, translations, and dilations; given two similar two-dimensional figures, describe a sequence that exhibits the similarity between them.

CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.5
Use informal arguments to establish facts about the angle sum and exterior angle of triangles, about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal, and the angle-angle criterion for similarity of triangles.

basic geometry

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They also allow for no deviation for the way other people might learn:

For example Division is taught currently in 6th grade, that you are to manually do a problem as follows

6/150

Six times 10 is 60 six times 20 is 20 six times 25 is 150 so 6/150 is 25 and you are to do multiplication and add your numbers up in a guess instead of going

6 goes into 15 twice with the remainder of 3, bring down the zero and you have 30 six goes in to 30 5 times, the answers 25.

Because of this instead of being able to do 10 to 20 math problems in an hour course you might be able to do 3 or 4, which means less practical skill is taught, you also spend longer explaining the "cc standard way" then the normal long division way, and if you deviate in most schools in my state as an example your given an F even if you come to the correct answer.

That stuff is not in the CC standard. Your state may have that stuff in but that is not the fault of CC. You quoted the CC standards above and they include nothing about how a specific item is to be taught. Just that it is to be covered and in which grade and in roughly what order. BTW division is taught long before 6th grade. The standard starts teaching it in 3rd grade.

The great thing about the standards is that people can go read them and see through all the negative hype.
http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

You can easily see for yourself that there is no 6th grade requirement remotely like what you quoted.

Except your link isnt whats provided to the schools for them to use. Its what I quoted as well because its easily available, but its not whats given to a school to follow common core.

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ORIGINAL: ElChupa
OH NO, NOT THOSE PESKY 'PUBLICANS AGAIN WITH ALL THEIR QUESTIONS! Haven't they heard of settled science? I mean, nobody questions, especially if leading scientists like biden, obama, and algore all agree on stuff! Questioning settled science like global warming/cooling just confuses people! All those other scientists who question should be sent to re education camps and stuff and be made to listen to Barack Hussein 0bama's (AKA, "The Big Zero") greatest speeches and then watch a blooper reel from Vice Emperor "Crazy Uncle Joe" Biden!

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63
It could be due to the fact that Democrats are more inclined to support social programs and mental health treatment, so those who already have those conditions might tend to support the Democrats out of self-interest. Being mentally ill does not make one stupid or completely out of touch with reality.

Of course, both sides might make a lot of hay about the other side being mentally ill, simply because they hold opposite viewpoints. I don't really view it as a serious argument or a positive advocacy of either a conservative or liberal position. Disparaging the other side is too easy.

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ORIGINAL: LetstalkboutRAP3

@Joether

It's not my article. Unless I'm mistaken, It was written by an Indian woman. I haven't even read it yet, I just stumbled upon the link to it a little while before I saw this thread. Figured it was relevant, so I thought I'd share. Also, you have too much time on your hands...

@DomKen

Piss off, commie!

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Common core was put in place by the department of education which is a federal program if Im not mistaken...

and the standards are bullshit

Nope. It was developed by the National Governors Association. The feds had nothing to do with it.

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Examples of CC Standards

CCSS.Math.Content.5.NBT.A.2
Explain patterns in the number of zeros of the product when multiplying a number by powers of 10, and explain patterns in the placement of the decimal point when a decimal is multiplied or divided by a power of 10. Use whole-number exponents to denote powers of 10.

Basic to understanding multiplication

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CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.4
Understand that a two-dimensional figure is similar to another if the second can be obtained from the first by a sequence of rotations, reflections, translations, and dilations; given two similar two-dimensional figures, describe a sequence that exhibits the similarity between them.

CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.5
Use informal arguments to establish facts about the angle sum and exterior angle of triangles, about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal, and the angle-angle criterion for similarity of triangles.

basic geometry

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They also allow for no deviation for the way other people might learn:

For example Division is taught currently in 6th grade, that you are to manually do a problem as follows

6/150

Six times 10 is 60 six times 20 is 20 six times 25 is 150 so 6/150 is 25 and you are to do multiplication and add your numbers up in a guess instead of going

6 goes into 15 twice with the remainder of 3, bring down the zero and you have 30 six goes in to 30 5 times, the answers 25.

Because of this instead of being able to do 10 to 20 math problems in an hour course you might be able to do 3 or 4, which means less practical skill is taught, you also spend longer explaining the "cc standard way" then the normal long division way, and if you deviate in most schools in my state as an example your given an F even if you come to the correct answer.

That stuff is not in the CC standard. Your state may have that stuff in but that is not the fault of CC. You quoted the CC standards above and they include nothing about how a specific item is to be taught. Just that it is to be covered and in which grade and in roughly what order. BTW division is taught long before 6th grade. The standard starts teaching it in 3rd grade.

The great thing about the standards is that people can go read them and see through all the negative hype.
http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

You can easily see for yourself that there is no 6th grade requirement remotely like what you quoted.

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ORIGINAL: ElChupa

OH NO, NOT THOSE PESKY 'PUBLICANS AGAIN WITH ALL THEIR QUESTIONS! Haven't they heard of settled science? I mean, nobody questions, especially if leading scientists like biden, obama, and algore all agree on stuff! Questioning settled science like global warming/cooling just confuses people! All those other scientists who question should be sent to re education camps and stuff and be made to listen to Barack Hussein 0bama's (AKA, "The Big Zero") greatest speeches and then watch a blooper reel from Vice Emperor "Crazy Uncle Joe" Biden!

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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom


The way most of those standards are stated is appalling. It's barely understandable. The whole powers of ten stuff is worse than God-awful. "Patterns in the number of zeros"? -- You should be teaching relationships, not a pattern, which sounds arbitrary.

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And that explanation of 6x10 sounds like a great technique to break prisoners in Guantanamo. At the least you would say: If you have, e.g., 6x10, then by the commutative property of multiplication, the order does not matter. Therefore, we can write 10x6.

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As far as division goes, you want to teach that 150/6=25 and therefore since you now have 6 pieces of 25 each that must be what you started with. To verify that, simply put them back together. Multiple 6x25 and indeed you get 150. You can now apply that the other way. If you divide 150/25 you get 6, meaning 25 separate pieces of 6. Multiply to put them back together again. The difference in my explanations is that I provide some basis for why these things are true instead of just throwing random numbers out there. Ideally you would ultimately treat these cases with variables, showing that for any x/y = q, that qy = x and in higher math using this as a way to prove the irrationality of numbers where x/y does not exist as a representation for the underlying number. CC or whatever this mess is fails to do any of that.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Having observed politics up close and personal for most of my adult lifetime, I have come to the conclusion that the rise of politicized religious fundamentalism may have been the key ingredient in the transformation of the Republican Party. Politicized religion provides a substrate of beliefs that rationalizes—at least in the minds of its followers—all three of the GOP’s main tenets: wealth worship, war worship, and the permanent culture war.

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The religious right’s professed insistence upon “family values” might appear at first blush to be at odds with the anything but saintly personal behavior of many of its leading proponents. Some of this may be due to the general inability of human beings to reflect on conflicting information: I have never ceased to be amazed at how facts manage to bounce off people’s consciousness like pebbles off armor plate.

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/05/republicans_slouching_toward_theocracy/

Kind of a fun read....