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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


"Jihad" doesn't mean "Holy War". It means "War". "Islamic Jihad" means "Holy War". "Islam" means "Holy".

Therefore, we are involved in a Jihad with a bunch of groups that believe that they are involved in an "Islamic Jihad" with us.

Unfortunately, when you're faced with extremists and extremism, you have to go to extremes. My mind immediately harkens to Hitler and Hirohito. We had to engage in extreme measures.

I'm on the fence about this issue because I don't recall ISIS attacking us but, I also put some stock in "Civus Romanus".







Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Yes, the only way to avoid violence is abject surrender.

Like the US 'abjectly surrendered' to 15 different S American and C American countries when we completely blew them up and set them to decades of ruin when they hadn't done a freaning thing to us before?

Or are you talking about when the US abjectly surrendered to Vietnam by killing 2 million of them? Or when we 'abjectly surrendered' to every other country we have directly invaded and destroyed by military or other indirect means?

If after all this you are still too stupid to figure out that when you hit somebody with a 32 lb. sledge hammer with out any legitimate provocation and they then happen to find a pebble and smack you in the head with it on their way down, that even token recognition of why they might have thrown the pebble in response to your initial unprovoked attack constitutes 'abject surrender,' it makes me wonder what the heck you got hit in the head with as a child.

If you don't want the violence, then don't commit it in the first place, end of story.

Otherwise, quit your sobbing and moaning about 'surrender' because you made the mistake of hitting the wrong guy and got surprised by the response, which one get's the feeling that you did on at least a few occasions in your youth, and you're still pissed off about it.

You are the most indefatigable chickenshit I've ever seen, I'll say that.

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

AH! You provided your definition at last.

And let me tell you Bama, you didn't disappoint.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Wait.. you need to have it explained to you now?
I thought you were the fucking "expert".

Why don't you share some of your deep insight, fuck knows I need a good old belly laugh.

I want you to give your deep and thoughtful interpretation of Jihad, I need the laugh. I have told you what it is and you keep telling me I am wrong, so set me straight. I know, we just have to see their side of things, act accordingly and set up some schools to set things right. You never have explained how you set up those schools without establishing the stability needed for people to go to said schools without getting killed for it.

Revert of course.

I think there is a typo, didn't you mean convert?
Yes, the only way to avoid violence is abject surrender.

No, actually I meant revert.

Muslims believe that all people are born with a natural faith in God. According to Islam, children are born with an innate sense of God, which is called the fitrah. Therefore, some people see conversion to Islam as a "return" back to this original, pure faith. For this reason, many Muslims prefer to say that they have "reverted," rather than converted to Islam. A common definition of the word "revert" is to "return to a former condition or belief."

http://islam.about.com/od/converts/g/revert_gt.htm

You can also find numerous pages on FB and the interwebz in general for new reverts to Islam support.

It is actually the "more correct" term.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Are they at war with us, or do they simply want us to stop meddling in their region. After the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan, Islamists left them alone.

Obama doesn't feel we have another TRILLION to spend; one would think more conservatives would be on board with that notion.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Would one of you brilliant people stop telling me why it is all the fault of the U S, and how taking any military action is so evil and tell me how you are going to establish these schools when going to one or teaching in one is a capital offense.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Would one of you brilliant people stop telling me why it is all the fault of the U S, and how taking any military action is so evil and tell me how you are going to establish these schools when going to one or teaching in one is a capital offense.

They cannot. This is because The International Community of the Ever So Caring and Sensitive (ICOTESCAS, Marca Registrada) Cannot admit that Islam - as a complete political, social, and legal system - is different in kind from every other _major_ religion, such that it is questionable - I believe impossible - to be both a devout Muslim and a good citizen. (You can be a fine citizen and a crappy Muslim, however.)

As an exception to the above, there is a strain of Islam that really is capable of both devoutness and citizenship, but it is a small minority strain. This is called "Quranic," as in, as one branch (here) phrased it, "The Quran, the whole Quran, and nothing but the Quran." In other words, all the hadiths and sunna are _out_. You would be surprised how much more reasonable it is without them, though there are still things in there that God has already legislated on and which man has no right to change, amend, modify, or limit.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Would one of you brilliant people stop telling me why it is all the fault of the U S, and how taking any military action is so evil and tell me how you are going to establish these schools when going to one or teaching in one is a capital offense.