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Thanks for the nice words, LL...you're right, I never said I could cure or reverse Diabetes. Nor diabetic neuropathy. I can manage it, with the aid and cooperation of the patient's medical doctor.
I look at their diet, their exercise, their B 12 levels. I use interferential current (think BIGGGG T.E.N.S. units) to treat the sore tissues of the lower legs/arms and feet/hands. Now then, if the patient's altered gait (due to the neuropathy) has affected his S.I. joints and the lumbar joints and the soft tissues of the lower back, I will use SMT. If the neuropathy has changed the way he uses his hands and arms, leading to pain and soft tissue changes in the cervical and thoracic spine, I will use SMT there. Sometimes, depending on the patient's vascularity, well have the patient doing warm soaks and/or using capsaicin cream.
And all of this is coordinated with their medical doctor...not overseen by or directed by...BUT in conjunction with what he does. He's busy checking their blood glucose level, keeping them supplied with Lyrica, monitoring other blood panel readings. And he accepts as well as I do that medicine and chiropractic do not have a cure for diabetes.
For those that think the spine is the first place I look to deal with a problem...either in or out of the profession, because they just know that's what I (and LOTS of others) do...you're wrong. But keep on with that narrow view.
So you were full of shit. I get it. You're providing nothing a physical/occupational therapist couldn't provide, except for the bullshit spinal crap which you have to know can't help a peripheral problem. I wonder what the differential in billing is?
Oh and the B vitamin to look to for neuropathy isn't just B12. B1, niacin, B6 and B12 deficiencies can all lead to neuropathy. A friend was losing all sensation in his feet until he went on a prescription B1. He had some sort of B1 uptake problem as a complication from diabetes.
No Ken...you're full of shit. You've turned this into something personal. My differential in billing?!? Everybody coming into this office pays between $ 40.00 and $ 45.00. The average cost to see a medical doctor in this town is $ 75.00 - $ 80.00 a visit, even if all he does is take your blood pressure and pulse and listen to you breathe. The average cost per visit at the one independent P.T. Is $ 60.00 -
$ 70.00. My friend, Dr K. L., M. D. drives a Corvette...I drive a Dakota Sport Limited. Nice truck...no Corvette. Sorry I don't fit into your "cheat everybody" mentality again, Ken.
You are the one who keeps insisting that only these three chiropractic doctors are right...perhaps because a portion of what they say is what you and the medical establishment and some others wish to hear. What you don't hear is that they ARE still doctors of Chiropractic, that they have NOT renounced anything but a portion of their teachings, and that they STILL make a living from chiropractic, one of them from the practice of it.
What you DON'T hear is that there are thousands of those like me...From Scott Haldeman to Dan Dock to Kirkaldy-Willis that don't think the old way that these three decry BUT who also don't embrace their rigid, "medically-approved" definition of what chiropractic is. Maybe because we don't think medicine is, nor should it always be, the last word on the "one twue way" of health care. And to me...and anyone who read what I posted earlier about these three sources of yours..one big question that comes to my mind again is this: if your three sources are so dead-set against EVERYTHING chiropractic, then why do they not give up their license to teach it, to practice it and do something else?
Oh and the main B vitamin to look at IS B12. The way I make sure they get B12 is by giving them B-complex. Just because I don't state something as specifically as you'd like Ken, doesn't mean I don't do it.
As for spinal adjustment not helping a peripheral nerve problem...I have only to state that the peripheral nerves are merely branches of bigger nerves that originate in the spinal cord. All electrical energy in all nerves...including the peripheral nerves... originates in the spinal cord.
As for not doing anything different than what a P.T. or O.T. does, in my state, P.T.s and O.T.s are not allowed to do Grade 5 manipulation. Their diagnostic requirements don't match up to mine or any other doctors...they're more in line with the type of nursing diagnosis that R.N.s such as my daughter makes.
Bullshit theories? Medical establishment approval? The medical establishment...the one you love...approves of the use of hyperbaric O2 therapy but only for FDA-approved conditions such as the bends and non-healing foot ulcers to name two. What don't they approve of? Treatment of cerebral palsy, despite a Canadian study that proved it to be beneficial. http://drcranton.com/hbo/widelyaccepted.htm
So, are the medical doctors who push for more widespread use of hyperbaric therapy quacks? They have studies to back their beliefs. But the medical establishment faults most of their studies in one way or another as does the F.D.A. So...who is right? An establishment that likes any study that backs what they believe and seeks to discredit what they don't? An establishment that reminds one of an animal stuck in the mud of their own orthodoxy? An establishment that has...for the most part...made the care we receive safer?
But then, where is the omniscient medical establishment in dealing with anti-aging medical doctors? The ones diagnosing "growth hormone deficiency syndrome" in almost anyone over the age of 30? Are these doctors quacks? Or are they using the accepted criteria of "can it ...the problem of aging...be fixed with injections?"
I don't remember who said it but a good quote to remember is "the heresy of today is the orthodoxy of tomorrow". This could of been applied to the germ theory (and was) and countless other advancements in health care. For a good read, consider "Confessions of a Medical Heretic" by Robert Mendelsohn, M. D.
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.. When I first went into my chiro's office he took xrays and showed me the problem.. my lower spine looked like an S (if you were standing behind me).. its not supposed to look like that.. wtf was wrong with the regular doctors I saw that didn't figure that out??? anyway, after the very first treatment with him, it was like the clouds opened and the sun shone again.. I finally realized just how much pain I was in once it was (mostly) gone.. 
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