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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Ok....so let's change it a little bit and for the sake of physical mobility and hygiene, the slave is confined to a bedroom/bathroom setup? What if the primary focus of the confinement isn't so much physical....but mental....meaning letting them have a physically comfortable room and bathroom....but no contact with anybody or any mental stimulation? No TV, music, radio, news of the outside world, reading material....and limited contact with the captor? (Just to get fed and be asked if they are well)

Would this have the same effect as a cage with limited mobility except for bathroom breaks?

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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

That's a great idea, if one's ambition is to be the next Ariel Castro.

For those of us who are sane, such a destruction of spiritual, psychological, physical and intellectual health is neither what the doctor nor the Master should order.

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Ok....so let's change it a little bit and for the sake of physical mobility and hygiene, the slave is confined to a bedroom/bathroom setup? What if the primary focus of the confinement isn't so much physical....but mental....meaning letting them have a physically comfortable room and bathroom....but no contact with anybody or any mental stimulation? No TV, music, radio, news of the outside world, reading material....and limited contact with the captor? (Just to get fed and be asked if they are well)

Would this have the same effect as a cage with limited mobility except for bathroom breaks?

Again, it is building a total dependency on the D... brain washing, same result, longer time frame.

An hour of total sensory deprivation can have the same effect, in a well controlled scene, but it won't be a lasting "dependency". It'll wear off as reality settles in and the /s recovers. The nature of the scene will dictate the impact you have on the /s... trust, dependency, terror, etc... the mind is easy to fuck with, real easy to damage, and should always be handled with great care.

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ORIGINAL: bowedbeforeyou

Pretty good collection of comments.
Attempting to deprive a sub or slave of the ability to function independently in the absence of the Dom is not training but the infliction of injury. This so-called Dom needs to be constrained in his own cage.

It's possible that he was, and is using this as sadistic catharsis.

Jus sayin

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Ok....so let's change it a little bit and for the sake of physical mobility and hygiene, the slave is confined to a bedroom/bathroom setup? What if the primary focus of the confinement isn't so much physical....but mental....meaning letting them have a physically comfortable room and bathroom....but no contact with anybody or any mental stimulation? No TV, music, radio, news of the outside world, reading material....and limited contact with the captor? (Just to get fed and be asked if they are well)

Would this have the same effect as a cage with limited mobility except for bathroom breaks?

Again, it is building a total dependency on the D... brain washing, same result, longer time frame.

An hour of total sensory deprivation can have the same effect, in a well controlled scene, but it won't be a lasting "dependency". It'll wear off as reality settles in and the /s recovers. The nature of the scene will dictate the impact you have on the /s... trust, dependency, terror, etc... the mind is easy to fuck with, real easy to damage, and should always be handled with great care.

hmm....dummy me...I hadn't really consider this in relation to total sensory deprivation.

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ORIGINAL: bowedbeforeyou

Pretty good collection of comments.
Attempting to deprive a sub or slave of the ability to function independently in the absence of the Dom is not training but the infliction of injury. This so-called Dom needs to be constrained in his own cage.

It's possible that he was, and is using this as sadistic catharsis.

Jus sayin

Sadistic catharsis? Please explain......

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

hmm....dummy me...I hadn't really consider this in relation to total sensory deprivation.

Hey! I don't recall ever giving you the permission to use the dummy card. Silly bitch is the limit, line is drawn, don't make me cage you!

Jus sayin

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

hmm....dummy me...I hadn't really consider this in relation to total sensory deprivation.

Hey! I don't recall ever giving you the permission to use the dummy card. Silly bitch is the limit, line is drawn, don't make me cage you!

Jus sayin

Ok...ok.....silly bitch me....I hadn't really considered this in relation to total sensory deprivation.

Better?

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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

That's a great idea, if one's ambition is to be the next Ariel Castro.

For those of us who are sane, such a destruction of spiritual, psychological, physical and intellectual health is neither what the doctor nor the Master should order.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, hey!

Now, I am all for the unbolded part of that, but I'm not sure I want to be a member of the bolded part. I mean, most members of government are supposed to be the picture of mental health, so count me out.

Jus sayin

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That's a great idea, if one's ambition is to be the next Ariel Castro.

For those of us who are sane, such a destruction of spiritual, psychological, physical and intellectual health is neither what the doctor nor the Master should order.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, hey!

Now, I am all for the unbolded part of that, but I'm not sure I want to be a member of the bolded part. I mean, most members of government are supposed to be the picture of mental health, so count me out.

Jus sayin

According to whom are most members of government supposed to be the picture of mental health? Government psychiatrists?

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Ok....so let's change it a little bit and for the sake of physical mobility and hygiene, the slave is confined to a bedroom/bathroom setup? What if the primary focus of the confinement isn't so much physical....but mental....meaning letting them have a physically comfortable room and bathroom....but no contact with anybody or any mental stimulation? No TV, music, radio, news of the outside world, reading material....and limited contact with the captor? (Just to get fed and be asked if they are well)

Would this have the same effect as a cage with limited mobility except for bathroom breaks?

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Ok....so let's change it a little bit and for the sake of physical mobility and hygiene, the slave is confined to a bedroom/bathroom setup? What if the primary focus of the confinement isn't so much physical....but mental....meaning letting them have a physically comfortable room and bathroom....but no contact with anybody or any mental stimulation? No TV, music, radio, news of the outside world, reading material....and limited contact with the captor? (Just to get fed and be asked if they are well)

Would this have the same effect as a cage with limited mobility except for bathroom breaks?

Have you been desiring longterm caging? And this is primarily what the would be Einstein/brilliant physicist wants and desires. Long term 24/7 confinement but won't dare do anything illegal to attain it. I really am curious how long he can last in such conditions, he's convinced it's what he desires,but again, I'd need another sub or two to care for him and feed him if that is the case, and lots of baby oil to prevent chafing from shackles etc.
I think it would be realistic in a polyplay setting but there has to be greater mobility than a room like domestic duties etc. At first I was thinking of doing it part time but wondered how long he would last in a full time setting and then if he no longer has that imprisonment desire then what would replace it. Also as stated the motives baffle me since he is pretty much a young Einstein.
I'm interested in thoughts on this in particular because he's not exactly an unrealistic brain dead idiot, he knows the chances of it happening are slim to none yet he desires it still.

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Ok....so let's change it a little bit and for the sake of physical mobility and hygiene, the slave is confined to a bedroom/bathroom setup? What if the primary focus of the confinement isn't so much physical....but mental....meaning letting them have a physically comfortable room and bathroom....but no contact with anybody or any mental stimulation? No TV, music, radio, news of the outside world, reading material....and limited contact with the captor? (Just to get fed and be asked if they are well)

Would this have the same effect as a cage with limited mobility except for bathroom breaks?

Have you been desiring longterm caging? And this is primarily what the would be Einstein/brilliant physicist wants and desires. Long term 24/7 confinement but won't dare do anything illegal to attain it. I really am curious how long he can last in such conditions, he's convinced it's what he desires,but again, I'd need another sub or two to care for him and feed him if that is the case, and lots of baby oil to prevent chafing from shackles etc.
I think it would be realistic in a polyplay setting but there has to be greater mobility than a room like domestic duties etc. At first I was thinking of doing it part time but wondered how long he would last in a full time setting and then if he no longer has that imprisonment desire then what would replace it. Also as stated the motives baffle me since he is pretty much a young Einstein.
I'm interested in thoughts on this in particular because he's not exactly an unrealistic brain dead idiot, he knows the chances of it happening are slim to none yet he desires it still.

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I read a horrible article in the Rolling Stone on solitary.

I'm pretty sure that solitary confinement would make me make friends with the junebugs.

I'm a thing that needs attention. I don't necessarily have to be obnoxious about it, but if its been too long since my guy really paid attention to me- I get pretty weird mentally.
I've always said the best punishment for me is to stop talking to me and to reject my touch.

This sort of thing would horrify and scar me. Forced introspection is something I only do, with a therapist, every other week. And even then I whine incessantly about it.

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I read a horrible article in the Rolling Stone on solitary.

I'm pretty sure that solitary confinement would make me make friends with the junebugs.

I'm a thing that needs attention. I don't necessarily have to be obnoxious about it, but if its been too long since my guy really paid attention to me- I get pretty weird mentally.
I've always said the best punishment for me is to stop talking to me and to reject my touch.

This sort of thing would horrify and scar me. Forced introspection is something I only do, with a therapist, every other week. And even then I whine incessantly about it.

I'm actually pretty comfortable being alone. I can't even count the number of weekends I've spent never stepping out of my apartment, not talking to anyone on the phone, and not turning on the TV....especially when the weather is bad. I suppose a little bit of time on the internet is all the socialization I really *need* to maintain my usual level of sanity (take that any way you want...) What would happen if I lost my internet connect AND had no books to read as well? That's a good question I'd rather not find out.

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......long term cage confinement as a part of "training". He said that the purpose of this and the desired outcome, is for the slave to develop a strong dependence on him....a type of "Stockholm Syndrome" he called it. So that even after the slave is released from the cage and even allowed out into the world to socialize with others, she will still have that psychological dependence and connection to him.

Have any of you ever heard of anything like this actually ever happening in an M/s relationship? .........