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Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged countries?


US airports should have closed airports from Ebola ravaged countries.
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The US should immediately close airports from Ebola ravished countries
  38% (17)
We should never close airports from any country.
  11% (5)
What the hell is going to happen next in this country?
  4% (2)
I could care less, until the US has at least 100 cases of Ebola
  6% (3)
I am not worried, I will never get Ebola.
  4% (2)
I am worried, and I have no idea what I should do.
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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/15/2014 8:31:19 PM   
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I am beginning to wonder if this isn't some kind of biological warfare attack ...



I have to agree with Lucy on this one,


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the nurse was criminally irresponsible.
Maybe, and I don't consider this to be justification, she believed the government types who said you couldn't spread it that way (not being anti government there but they are the ones who said it) even though some of the same people said you should avoid public transportation if you had been exposed. Maybe she ignored them because the info was conflicting. And maybe she was just a selfish bitch who didn't care.

I get it. I get it. However, I didn't mean just this person. I meant the fact that Ebola has been an issue in places on the African continent for a few years, now and all-of-a-sudden, it's come to our shores.

If I was an "enemy" of the US and wanted to engage in biological warfare, this might be one of the ways I would go about it.

Also, please remember that I didn't state it as a fact; I just said that I was wondering. I don't think one can say that it is absolutely impossible though. Admittedly, it's not highly likely but I don't think the idea should be dismissed, out of hand.








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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/15/2014 9:04:58 PM   
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I am beginning to wonder if this isn't some kind of biological warfare attack ...



I have to agree with Lucy on this one,


I promise not to think too much less of you for it.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

the nurse was criminally irresponsible.
Maybe, and I don't consider this to be justification, she believed the government types who said you couldn't spread it that way (not being anti government there but they are the ones who said it) even though some of the same people said you should avoid public transportation if you had been exposed. Maybe she ignored them because the info was conflicting. And maybe she was just a selfish bitch who didn't care.

I get it. I get it. However, I didn't mean just this person. I meant the fact that Ebola has been an issue in places on the African continent for a few years, now and all-of-a-sudden, it's come to our shores.

If I was an "enemy" of the US and wanted to engage in biological warfare, this might be one of the ways I would go about it.

Also, please remember that I didn't state it as a fact; I just said that I was wondering. I don't think one can say that it is absolutely impossible though. Admittedly, it's not highly likely but I don't think the idea should be dismissed, out of hand.








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No I didn't think you did mean it as a fact, just a thought.
As poorly as we are handling this they may just let us do it to ourselves.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/15/2014 9:39:13 PM   
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People NEED to be more worried about how fucking easy it was for Duncan to breeze into the USA, instead of jumping on the nurse who was taking care of him.

WTF?


Where the hell is the CDC and our government to manage this?
If 76 people were being monitored how was this lady allowed to board a plane in the first place?
SHE called the CDC SEVERAL times BEFORE boarding the plane, and they told her it was okay for her to fly!!
BLAME the fucking asses in the government.
Who the hell is in charge of the CDC, and handling this epidemic? The 3 stooges?


I guess next, we are going to DEPEND on people to quarantine themselves soon, or go to the nearest hospital that is not fucking trained to take care of them.

hummmmmm

I hope those that are upset over the nurse, are also not thrilled with people able to fly in from all over the world, including Ebola ravished countries with impunity.

Plenty of pot kettle black folks up in here.

I also favor a quarantine of countries stricken by it.
He shouldn't have been let in.
And she shouldn't have gone to Ohio.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/15/2014 9:48:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		1 little, 2 little, 3 little Ebola patients . . . ooops. there goes another one.
The USA passes Senegal and Spain on the way to catch up with Nigeria's infection levels.

But I do love the current Hoax about "Texas Town Quarantined After Family Of Five Test Positive For The Ebola Virus"



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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/15/2014 10:10:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Someone mentioned decontamination showers!

That's exactly what health care workers need after exposure to Ebola patients.

I wouldn't feel safe just disinfecting hands after taking off the contaminated uniform.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/15/2014 11:35:56 PM   
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Excuse my ignorance - I know zilch about the subject of correct disrobing in this context: why can't those who've been dealing with ebola patients step, fully-clothed, straight into decontaminating showers or baths?



Awesome idea! I have two questions.

1: How are you going to get the right decontaminate into the water pipes for this? (5% hydro something or other.)

2: What are you going to do with the run-off?

(Ya see, these kinds of showers for level 4 are not all that common.)

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 12:36:42 AM   
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No good!

Again, if this was spread by fluids only, I am surprise healthcare workers with their stringent hygiene practices are still catching it from their patients. Perhaps they really gotta study this more.

But all these nurses are really heroes. I mean having to wipe their patients diarrhea and things like that, really really putting themselves in the most contagious form of contact!


It would seem that the hygiene practices may not be stringent enough.


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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 12:39:19 AM   
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Excuse my ignorance - I know zilch about the subject of correct disrobing in this context: why can't those who've been dealing with ebola patients step, fully-clothed, straight into decontaminating showers or baths?



Awesome idea! I have two questions.

1: How are you going to get the right decontaminate into the water pipes for this? (5% hydro something or other.)

2: What are you going to do with the run-off?

(Ya see, these kinds of showers for level 4 are not all that common.)


I think the trick would be to call the DOD, they have plenty of NBC Decontamination showers, a lot of them are inflatable and self-contained. You fill a reservoir with the chemicals you want, and the run-off is retained for secure disposal.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 4:28:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking of decontamination, if you in a biosuit because you are working on a contagious Ebola patient, you would think high level protocols would be in place. The healthcare worker in Spain got Ebola because she brushed against her cheek with the glove when she was taking it off. If they would have scrubbed the suit first, that wouldn't have happened. High level protocols require decontamination of the gear BEFORE you take it off.

Seeing or using a biohazard suit should create a strong safety mindset. I will never forget back in the anthrax scare days when I was coming out of a municipal building. I went out the door and saw 6 guys in yellow biohazard suits with air tanks coming my way. I freaked. There were ambulances, fire trucks and cop cars all lined up outside. I am not a hypochondriac, but I have never felt so jumpy in my life as did on the drive back to the office. Suddenly I could feel every little discomfort in my body and each one of them made me wonder if it was the onset of anthrax poisoning. Later that day neck was sore from working on the computer and I was sure that was anthrax poisoning... I actually felt around to see if there was a blister.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 5:41:19 AM   
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White House shifts into crisis mode on Ebola response

Don't panic though

Its just for political reasons

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 5:45:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Even if it's for political reasons, it's good for US to take this seriously! And there is so much attention on Ebola spreading itself, but I wish there were more articles explaining about this one magical American dude blood who is like the elixir to heal Ebola! How does it work? And can they reproduce it to fit all blood types?

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 6:05:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		On October 20, it will 42 days since Nigeria’s last Ebola case. Being that is twice the 21-day incubation period, they will declare Nigeria free of the disease.

Why-o-why can't its West African neighbors follow suit? I know it's highly contagious but it isn't airborne. It can be contained.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 6:39:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		The 2 nurses were exposed while not in protective attire.
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/presbyterian-workers-wore-no-protective-gear-for-two-days-while-treating-ebola-patient.html/

This hospital totally dropped the ball here. There may very well be more people come down with it from this.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 6:45:32 AM   
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This hospital totally dropped the ball here. There may very well be more people come down with it from this.

Sometimes paranoia is good. Obviously the hospital decided not to take paranoid measures.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 7:54:56 AM   
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I have to agree with Lucy on this one, the nurse was criminally irresponsible.


Speaking of criminally irresponsible, has anyone seen this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/14/nancy-snyderman-ebola-quarantine_n_5981154.html

This doctor works for NBC. One of her crew got ebola after being exposed to a victim in Liberia, so the entire crew was put under quarantine. They allowed them to do "voluntary" quarantine at home, but she was hungry and went out at least once for soup. Her apology basically boils down to "I'm a doctor, so I know I'm not sick, but sorry if I may have scared anyone."

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 8:02:44 AM   
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So, now we have a family that has been in contact with someone infected with Ebola. We have a commercial plane with other passengers that now have had some contact with a person infected with Ebola. We have a crew that has potentially come in contact with Ebola while they were doing routine cleaning of that plane.

What's the truth?

Why do you care? Does a conservative interpretation of the constitution allow for any of this? Why isn't this a job for private enterprise?

Why shouldn't he care beyond the confines of what is contained in the U.S. Constitution, unless you are contending that DS is a strict Constitutionalist?

It is his sig line.




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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 8:04:41 AM   
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Ive never seen one of those in any hospital Ive ever been in


Does this mean that they do not exist or that you are too igorant to educate yourself?

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 1:34:56 PM   
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WTF what possessed HER to fly considering she had been working with Duncan,???
why wasnt NOT FLYING while under questionable self examination a pre requisite from the hospital.

She wasn't supposed to fly on any commercial flights with other passengers. She didn't follow those rules.

Hey DS:)
I just quoted what the story was, apparently (questionable still to me) that she called the cdc who told her to fly.
post 142...no doubt you have got there now:)


I heard that story on the news this morning, and then read it online Apparently, since she wasn't exhibiting any symptoms other than an elevated temperature (99.56°F; fever temperature is considered 100.5°F), the CDC said it was okay.




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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 1:38:45 PM   
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So, now we have a family that has been in contact with someone infected with Ebola. We have a commercial plane with other passengers that now have had some contact with a person infected with Ebola. We have a crew that has potentially come in contact with Ebola while they were doing routine cleaning of that plane.
What's the truth?

Why do you care? Does a conservative interpretation of the constitution allow for any of this? Why isn't this a job for private enterprise?

Why shouldn't he care beyond the confines of what is contained in the U.S. Constitution, unless you are contending that DS is a strict Constitutionalist?
What would you suggest that private enterprise take upon itself, if that is your position, and how do you think this would streamline any such (potentially) unconcerted efforts? If not, then what do you believe should be done?
(Or are you just being facetious? )



I believe in a conservative interpretation of the US Constitution, and he's attempting to get my goat. He's on hide, so it doesn't bug me one bit.

What he failed to notice (or he did but decided he needed practice typing in bold) was that I wasn't calling for government to do anything, so there can't be any Constitutionality questions regarding it.

Some people would rather see another post at their hands than actually add to a discussion.


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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/16/2014 1:43:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

So, now we have a family that has been in contact with someone infected with Ebola. We have a commercial plane with other passengers that now have had some contact with a person infected with Ebola. We have a crew that has potentially come in contact with Ebola while they were doing routine cleaning of that plane.

What's the truth?

Why do you care? Does a conservative interpretation of the constitution allow for any of this? Why isn't this a job for private enterprise?

Why shouldn't he care beyond the confines of what is contained in the U.S. Constitution, unless you are contending that DS is a strict Constitutionalist?

It is his sig line.

I see, but then this begs the question how does a literal interpretation of the Constitution (if that were the case, I'm not saying that it is) preclude governmental involvement in public health scares and potential threats to the lives of American citizens? In re-reading this thread, I don't think anybody has taken such a (Constitutional) position on this matter, unless you're seeing something that I am not.

It is not my intention to get off topic or go beyond the purview of the issue being addressed on this thread, but I also believe that Ebola aside, whatever measures get taken now should be consistent with how the spread of contagious diseases get handled and contained in the future.

ETA: We cross-posted DS, and I didn't see your post until just now.

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