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FieryOpal -> RE: Interesting Point (10/22/2014 4:11:58 PM)
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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If everyone has an id how is it that some cannot vote with their id that you will say will work? If the old id is good then why do they need a new id?
The law in Texas requires a state or military ID, nothing different than any other state, the screaming is about the alleged poor who do not have a valid ID. By valid the law means current and not expired.
Do you want to explane how that works. How is it that yesterday your "valid" drivers license identified you but today because it is expired it no longer identifies you.
You know, the same kind of ID you need to cash a paycheck? There are currently 13,594,264 e\registered voters as of the last election, and to register, you had to have at least your social security card
My social security card says in very large letters on the front "not to be used for identification.
The reason why old ID isn't a trustworthy form of identification is because it used to be your old ID was not confiscated when replaced with new ID (which means somebody else could pass himself or herself off as you). You used to be able to get a state driver's license without turning your old one in. This had changed by the time I had moved back to MD and was issued a(nother) driver's license--I was not given back my VA driver's license. It's also been quite some time that an expired passport no longer serves as valid ID. Evidently this policy is in place to avoid the possibility of duplication or identity theft.
As for one's social security card, it is regarded as more of a supplemental ID in addition to the required form of photo ID. By itself, it won't serve as valid ID.
When I supervised independent home health aides (usually CNAs or an LPN), one foreign aide was caught lending out her certification to a relative to get hired in this profession. It happens with taxicab drivers also and their hacker's license where relatives are sharing a cab amongst themselves.
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If your ID is expired, you need a birth certificate,
How exactly does a birth certificate identify you as you. There is only a small foot print no pic no dna it is a useless piece of paper as far as proof goes.
It doesn't. It's assumed that you came by your birth certificate in a justifiable manner, that you are who you say you are, born of the parents you claim to be born of.
A couple of decades ago, a relative of a family friend used somebody else's birth certificate and social security card to assume his identity. He didn't even fit the other man's physical description if anybody would have checked, a deadbeat dad who was working under the table and was known to keep himself below radar range. This man was able to get a driver's license with his own photo on there, not matching the physical description (hair, eyes, height, race category was also questionable), and got away with getting hired and impersonating that man for more than a year before he got caught as a fugitive (the reason why he had done this in the first place).
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social security card
Which mine clearly states that it is not to be used for identification.
and your expired ID.
Which you earlier said was not valid id.
Perhaps not valid in itself as ID, but valid for the purposes of biographical evidence (in verifying one's personage, address, state residency, and in matching up other trackable records, etc.) in conjunction with the other forms of less refutable ID.
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