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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
That's one way to look at it.
Another is that someone in your condition who did not yet have insurance can now get it. I bet those people don't feel "fucked."
Still another is that insurance companies can no longer have crappy non-compliant policies in the first place.
That's kind of circular since before Obamacare, there were no "non-Obamacare-compliant" policies.
Being an 'older' American, I guess you never heard of 'Selective Service'....
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I was very happy with my policy which covered the things I needed it to cover. My new policy covers those things but it also covers pregnancy protection, ovarian cancer protection, breast reduction surgery (for health reason; not cosmetics) ... None of these "female issues" raise the price of my policy incredibly but they raise it, none the less and when we're talking about almost $9,000 per year, cutting whatever I can would sure help.
How do you know they raise it? Got some evidence that proves it?
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I may be being overly critical but I seem to remember someone looking away from a teleprompter and looking into a TV camera and damned-near swearing that "If you like your current policy, you'll be able to keep it." Somehow, that just wasn't the case. I didn't get to keep my policy. I got fucked into buying a NEW Obamacare-compliant policy.
It wasn't the White House that forced your policy to be switched directly. It was the insurance companies, after 'chatting' with their lawyers about how their existing policies would fair under the new law....changed....the policies. It states within the law which policies are 'grandfathered' in and why. Those policies that did not meet the correct criteria (and there is a list within the law), would not be allowed 'under the law'. So the insurance companies issued a new policy that did comply with the law.
Now your insurance company could have kept you under the same policy, and taken the penalties for being dumb about it....
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
Obama (and whoever worked on this law) and Pelosi (who carried his water) fucked over a bunch of Americans ... not that they care. It was for our own good.
Before this law 'forced' people to have healthcare, many went to ER's for routine and 'life threatening' emergencies. After the law's passage, more people use the ER for emergency services. That people could actually see medical personnel to handle routine problems created less suffering. You are in favor of less suffering among US Citizens, right?
Before the law's passage, the country was at risk of bio-terror WMDs. Check up on the Operation: Dark Winter results. That people only went to see medical people long after symptoms started and the person was near death. Not only that, but had spread the illness to others. In most places around the USA the mentality was "only see the doctor if I think I'm dying". With the fake weaponized smallpox, the person was virtually dead by that point. Where as if the person could see a medical doctor when the first symptoms started, could notify the proper authorized that 'something is not right here'.
Right now, if you enter into a hospital or clinic with a strange illness. That information gets relayed to the regional hospital and then onto the CDC. That allows systems to handle emergencies much more quickly and effectively.
So imagine Ebola breaking out in Des Moines, IA. Before the law's passage, how soon before the Ebola (used as a Bioweapon of mass destruction) was found in and near the city? How many people, infected, would have traveled outside that city in the few hours since its release at a 'major event' (i.e. rock concert, large league game, convention)?*1* Now consider after the law's passage, where people are now more likely to contact or visit a medical person to get treatment, and thus start the chain of events much sooner.
Which is better there, DaddySatyr. We can bash each other over the law, yet, when it comes to defending the nation against a biological WMD; are we better off without the law or with it?
I'm not saying the law's passage is in direct response to Dark Winter. Its one of many items of why this bill was put into action. In all honesty, the President's bill was much better (handling resources and funding it without new taxes) than the ACA.
*1*: referencing a well known Tom Clancy book....
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