Zonie63
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Earlier you asked what was wrong with having a fastfood mentality for instant gratification. It has to do with self-entitlements that are not a given unalienable "right," one that infringes upon the uncoerced consent of others.
When my Gen-Xer son was in school in Northern Virginia, there were girls who were being pressured into giving boys b.j.s in the back of the bus, being erroneously told that this did not *count* as being actual sex. You know, the Monica Lewinsky generation.
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ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali
And for some strange reason many men today feel "entitled" to sex or have it in their minds that just because they are interested in a woman that it's automatically reciprocated.
I'm not sure that men necessarily feel "entitled" to sex or that their interests would be automatically reciprocated. I think that men have been socialized into thinking that "persistence pays off," and that if they just keep trying and persisting, the woman will eventually change her mind. They might think that they weren't smooth or debonair enough in their approach, so they'll try again. If TV commercials are anything to go by, some might think that it's simply a matter of using a different cologne or switching to another mouthwash. I seem to recall that there was once a cologne called "Karate" which even included a pamphlet outlining various self-defense techniques for a man to fight off the hoards of females who will be attracted by the scent of the cologne. 
Some men might also have an overinflated opinion of themselves that they're genuinely flabbergasted that a woman would turn them down. Competition with other men might also come into the picture if a woman chooses one man over another. Back in the old days, it was simply a matter of killing one's rival in honorable combat for the hand of the lady, but that's not really done anymore. Of course, the choice of the lady in question would not really be respected, since she would then be stuck with whoever won the battle. Even if it didn't involve armed combat, the prevailing view in society was to have arranged marriages - or at least kept within a certain class, religion, or other grouping of "acceptable" prospects.
As these kinds of ideas get filtered down through the generations into what we have today, people see a liberated, sexually-active society (or perhaps "oversexed" as some might put it) and think "Yeah, okay, I could go for this." Only instead of trying to make oneself an acceptable prospect for marriage, a lot of people think in terms of being an acceptable prospect for sex. If one is led to believe that "everybody is doing it with everybody" while concurrently believing that one is God's Gift To Women, then if a woman rejects such a man, then such a choice might seem so incredibly foolish or insane, as if she's turning down the opportunity of a lifetime.
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... And I've always said that Persistence Does Pay Off, however, it's a matter of having good judgment to also know that there's a time to Cut Your Losses and Run (depart, go on with life). No means No. No doesn't mean you (plural) have a green light to make an arse of yourself because your fragile ego can't handle any form of perceived rejection. 
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