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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

There are millions of people who think a woman is a slut, should close her legs, never have sex, get sterile, and are anti contraception. Have you missed how much abortion and contraception has been in the news for the past 6 years? How many bills? how many laws?
Get a clue BY.

how many times do I have to say I am NOT ANTI ABORTION

GET A CLUE LUCY

but it doesn't mean I am so closed minded about it I can't see other points of view regarding it

and if I remember right lucy you used that EXACT SAME ARGUMENT on me "if a man doesn't want to pay for a child he should keep his dick in his pants!"

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

so what? are you saying he CAN NOT have an objective opinion because of that?

... makes me wonder where you stand on the statement all Isamics are terrorists?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Its a moral issue to you perhaps, but not to many who know that life does not begin at inception. But your boy danced around that one, eliding into a 25 week or better argument.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

There are millions of people who think a woman is a slut, should close her legs, never have sex, get sterile, and are anti contraception. Have you missed how much abortion and contraception has been in the news for the past 6 years? How many bills? how many laws?
Get a clue BY.

how many times do I have to say I am NOT ANTI ABORTION

GET A CLUE LUCY

but it doesn't mean I am so closed minded about it I can't see other points of view regarding it

and if I remember right lucy you used that EXACT SAME ARGUMENT on me "if a man doesn't want to pay for a child he should keep his dick in his pants!"

I DIDNT SAY YOU WERE ANTI ABORTION. dipshit

I said that there were millions of people who DO think like those men and women in the video....therefore it is not a SMALL GROUP.

good god man, you seriously need upgrading in comprehension skills..

As for your take on his " philosophy", it reeeks of "religion"
His belief in his philosophy,and morality vs the rights of women sucks donkey dick, Ive heard it all before, Ive been preached about it before more than a few times, his philosophy about women is the same as his religions.

As far as the bit about " "if a man doesn't want to pay for a child he should keep his dick in his pants!""

got the link so I can explain context to you?

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

so what? are you saying he CAN NOT have an objective opinion because of that?

... makes me wonder where you stand on the statement all Isamics are terrorists?

Well there we go.

HE can have a (not at all) objective opinion, but if I have one contrary to his, then I am an Islamaphobic.

Thanks for tying all that up.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You guys are arguing with Bityakin? The guy is so dumb I put him on hide so I didn't have to see his random capitalizations and stupid "ideas" anymore. This is as pointless as trying to discuss something with Tommy. At least stop quoting him so I don't have to see his nonsense anymore OK?

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

comprehension skills?

lets talk about that a moment

I NEVER said there weren't a lot of people who feel like these people do, I DID SAY however that DK used an article about a SMALL GROUP of people who felt as they do to make his point
and I don't know but its quite possible there are 10's of millions of people who are anti abortion on non religious grounds that have nothing to do with extra martital sex, which if true would make those that do base it on religion the SMALLER of the two groups
telling me to GET A CLUE certainly implies you lump me into that category...

and you can all PRETEND it reeks of religion all you want, but at NO TIME does he use religion to justify his points...
just because it aligns with a more religious viewpoint does not mean HIS argument is based in religion
back to those COMPREHENSION SKILLS...

lastly context is unimportant in this case, you use the EXACT same argument to justify an argument that you imply is hogwash above

only difference is, in one, the argument favors men and in the other, it favors women

if a woman doesn't want to bear the responsibility of getting pregnant keeping her legs close is NOT a valid argument. if a man does not want to bear that EXACT SAME RESPONSIBILTY then keep his dick in his pants IS A VALID ARGUEMENT

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

lol, can't help but make a comment, but instead of actually addressing the issue you go for a personal attack. Now that's simply pathetic

He's an idiot troll who exists to defend the indefensible. The longer we keep him around the longer he keeps thinking he's scoring points while making his side look just as awful as it really is.

The hilarious thing is, even posting this in public won't make him realize this fact.

what's really hilarious, is DK finding an article where they found a SMALL group who are obviously religious, and then implying they represent all pro life people

personally I am not anti abortion, and for purely selfish reasons, just so we are clear

I personally agree with a lot of what pro-life people say and found this article to be quite interesting

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/280535/pro-life-aristotle-interview

nothing in it is based on religion BTW

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

You guys are arguing with Bityakin? The guy is so dumb I put him on hide so I didn't have to see his random capitalizations and stupid "ideas" anymore. This is as pointless as trying to discuss something with Tommy. At least stop quoting him so I don't have to see his nonsense anymore OK?

yeahh ever since I called him out and offered to compare IQ tests with him he refuses to read what I write...

HAHAHAHAH

when you've CLEARLY been made a fool of, there is always that LALALALALA I can't hear you button

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
I seeee, soo protecting what some feel is an innocent human life is NOT A MORAL ISSUE???

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
I seeee, soo protecting what some feel is an innocent human life is NOT A MORAL ISSUE???

This is where the religion comes in, since you were just asking that. The supernatural understanding of things which conflates a single celled organism with a baby and conflates contraception with abortion THAT's where religion comes in.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
I seeee, soo protecting what some feel is an innocent human life is NOT A MORAL ISSUE???

This is where the religion comes in, since you were just asking that. The supernatural understanding of things which conflates a single celled organism with a baby and conflates contraception with abortion THAT's where religion comes in.

So my athiest friend who used to state that she didn't need some imaginary guy in the sky to tell her abortion was wrong was really lying? Even though she claimed her view had nothing to do with religion, you know better right? Now if I had to guess I would say that the majority of people against abortion have some kind of religion that is driving their views but to come here and claim that they all do is just stupid and one of the main reasons I ignore much of what you say.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

comprehension skills?

lets talk about that a moment

I NEVER said there weren't a lot of people who feel like these people do, I DID SAY however that DK used an article about a SMALL GROUP of people who felt as they do to make his point
and I don't know but its quite possible there are 10's of millions of people who are anti abortion on non religious grounds that have nothing to do with extra martital sex, which if true would make those that do base it on religion the SMALLER of the two groups
telling me to GET A CLUE certainly implies you lump me into that category...

and you can all PRETEND it reeks of religion all you want, but at NO TIME does he use religion to justify his points...
just because it aligns with a more religious viewpoint does not mean HIS argument is based in religion
back to those COMPREHENSION SKILLS...

lastly context is unimportant in this case, you use the EXACT same argument to justify an argument that you imply is hogwash above

only difference is, in one, the argument favors men and in the other, it favors women

if a woman doesn't want to bear the responsibility of getting pregnant keeping her legs close is NOT a valid argument. if a man does not want to bear that EXACT SAME RESPONSIBILTY then keep his dick in his pants IS A VALID ARGUEMENT

Not bothering to respond to this very sad attempt to assert things I havent typed.
that and you really are fucking clueless..

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
I seeee, soo protecting what some feel is an innocent human life is NOT A MORAL ISSUE???

This is where the religion comes in, since you were just asking that. The supernatural understanding of things which conflates a single celled organism with a baby and conflates contraception with abortion THAT's where religion comes in.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
I seeee, soo protecting what some feel is an innocent human life is NOT A MORAL ISSUE???

This is where the religion comes in, since you were just asking that. The supernatural understanding of things which conflates a single celled organism with a baby and conflates contraception with abortion THAT's where religion comes in.

So my athiest friend who used to state that she didn't need some imaginary guy in the sky to tell her abortion was wrong was really lying? Even though she claimed her view had nothing to do with religion, you know better right? Now if I had to guess I would say that the majority of people against abortion have some kind of religion that is driving their views but to come here and claim that they all do is just stupid and one of the main reasons I ignore much of what you say.

She may have claimed her view had nothing do with religion but that would have been an unconsidered claim. Considering all the evidence it is unreasonable to prioritize a clump of cells that cannot live on its own over a fully independent human being. There has to be some other reason for doing so. The only reason known is the prevailing religious faith of our culture.

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin


NOO sorry again, whether it's just a glob of cells or a human being is a scientific issue, if someone BELEIVES that glob of cells to be a human being then whether or not its OK to kill it IS and ALWAYS WILL BE A MORAL ISSUE

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin


NOO sorry again, whether it's just a glob of cells or a human being is a scientific issue, if someone BELEIVES that glob of cells to be a human being then whether or not its OK to kill it IS and ALWAYS WILL BE A MORAL ISSUE

Chemotherapy just "kills a glob of cells".

The question is and always will be "When is a glob of cells a human being?"
It isn't murder if what you're killing isn't human, otherwise you'd starve to death.

Different religions hold a different time for when a glob of cells is human.
Are you going to decide for all of us?