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darkwanderer3305 -> RE: BREAKING NEWS (12/9/2014 10:00:28 AM)
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Firstly, I have never supported the "war on terror". It is complete bunk.
Some unknown entity "attacks" the US (nope, I never once heard Bin Laden admit he and his cronies were responsible - and, considering they claimed everything else - I'm not falling for it).
Then, the US decides that he did it. Well, he is a member of the Royal House of Saud, not a citizen of Afghanistan. So, WTF did we attack an innocent country? Oil? Empire? Or pure bullshit?
So, we kill him. And, somewhere along the line the fake WMDs take us into Iraq where we kill Saddam. (Because big Bush didn't let Stormin Norman do it the first time we were there.)
Now we have two dead leaders.
But wait, there's more.... These two guys were our cronies. We trained and armed Bin Laden during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's. And, even further back in the 70s and 80s we armed and supported Saddam against the evil of Iran.
The fkd up thing is that the ONLY reason people in the middle east hate America is because after WWII we stole their land and created Israel as our satellite.
The people of this country would flip shit if another country invaded our shores, stole our land, and "created" a new country. So, I can't really blame the world for hating American "imperialism".
With all that said, I am amused by peoples' reactions to the whole torture issue.
EVERY government in history has had its own version of the "secret police". Those evil bastards have allowed empires to grow, survive and/or flourish since the beginning of time. How do they do it? Torture, theft, violence, etc. Everything you are whining about the CIA doing.
Face it, like the US's foreign policy or not, without these tactics, we would all be calling each other "comrade" in Virginia-stan and Moscow West (DC).
And, before you bitch and tell each other how bad the US has made the world - I call bullshit again. Every act of insanity perpetrated by this government (no matter who was in charge) was LEARNED!!! That's right. We learned how to be a country. We learned from England, France and Spain, and before them was Rome and Greece.
If you don't like what is going on, by all means exercise your rights and voice your opinion. But, don't slam this country for doing what EVERY country does without comment or retribution.
(If you don't believe every country does it - leave your ID at home, grab a sat phone, stick it in a backpack, and start hiking through Iran, Korean, Russia, China, or any other country in the world. All of them might not stop and "detain you". But, most of them will.)
Oh, and just for the record - trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, and a lot of shady shit could have been avoided if someone would have had the balls (*cough* GWBush) to just push a button to send one missile to turn a bit of desert into glass; instead of sending my kids into a bs war zone... js...
ok - I never monitor these things. And, I won't watch this one either. Just throwing my 2 cents into the fray.... enjoy...
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