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Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 1:32:11 PM   
MartianMan9


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Status: offline 		Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR? I see that there are plenty of females on her complaining about how this site is full of men who are not real and are full of BS. I don't disagree that there are immature men on here, it has been my experience that the majority of the female dommes on here want some form of payment or "Tribute" as its called to even talk to them. First of all, I have no problem with Pro-Dommes. It is a professional that I'm sure many people do honest and respectfully. Subs/slaves mutually agree to pay for play. Theres really no FLR there but more of a business transaction.
However, there are plenty of females who claim they are looking to start a female led relationship with a slave, but are not interested in establishing a relationship at all. A FLR requires both trust and respect. I would never be able to genuinely submit to another if I didn't know and trust them. Many women on here are very quick to ask for you to tribute by satisfying their amazon wishlist or logging into their website that requires your credit card information for verification. Many of these women are not interested in taking the time to get to know these potential slaves or see if they get along with them or connect. They want to know if you will tribute and how much you will tribute. That wouldn't be the problem if these women weren't the same ones complaining about how males slaves on here are not serious and are fully of crap. Or if these women identified themselves as Pro-dommes. Thats my pitch and I'm getting off my soap box and putting it away. I just wanted to know what everyone else feels about the matter. Thanks
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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 1:42:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR? I see that there are plenty of females on her complaining about how this site is full of men who are not real and are full of BS. I don't disagree that there are immature men on here, it has been my experience that the majority of the female dommes on here want some form of payment or "Tribute" as its called to even talk to them. First of all, I have no problem with Pro-Dommes. It is a professional that I'm sure many people do honest and respectfully. Subs/slaves mutually agree to pay for play. Theres really no FLR there but more of a business transaction.
However, there are plenty of females who claim they are looking to start a female led relationship with a slave, but are not interested in establishing a relationship at all. A FLR requires both trust and respect. I would never be able to genuinely submit to another if I didn't know and trust them. Many women on here are very quick to ask for you to tribute by satisfying their amazon wishlist or logging into their website that requires your credit card information for verification. Many of these women are not interested in taking the time to get to know these potential slaves or see if they get along with them or connect. They want to know if you will tribute and how much you will tribute. That wouldn't be the problem if these women weren't the same ones complaining about how males slaves on here are not serious and are fully of crap. Or if these women identified themselves as Pro-dommes. Thats my pitch and I'm getting off my soap box and putting it away. I just wanted to know what everyone else feels about the matter. Thanks


Any time someone is asking for "tribute" to serve in a relationship they are after the money, not the relationship.


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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 1:44:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR? I see that there are plenty of females on her complaining about how this site is full of men who are not real and are full of BS. I don't disagree that there are immature men on here, it has been my experience that the majority of the female dommes on here want some form of payment or "Tribute" as its called to even talk to them. First of all, I have no problem with Pro-Dommes. It is a professional that I'm sure many people do honest and respectfully. Subs/slaves mutually agree to pay for play. Theres really no FLR there but more of a business transaction.
However, there are plenty of females who claim they are looking to start a female led relationship with a slave, but are not interested in establishing a relationship at all. A FLR requires both trust and respect. I would never be able to genuinely submit to another if I didn't know and trust them. Many women on here are very quick to ask for you to tribute by satisfying their amazon wishlist or logging into their website that requires your credit card information for verification. Many of these women are not interested in taking the time to get to know these potential slaves or see if they get along with them or connect. They want to know if you will tribute and how much you will tribute. That wouldn't be the problem if these women weren't the same ones complaining about how males slaves on here are not serious and are fully of crap. Or if these women identified themselves as Pro-dommes. Thats my pitch and I'm getting off my soap box and putting it away. I just wanted to know what everyone else feels about the matter. Thanks


Comply with her requests or move on, It is that simple.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 1:47:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gauge

Any time someone is asking for "tribute" to serve in a relationship they are after the money, not the relationship.



To be honest, the fact that I don't request it and get emails from every wanker in the western hemisphere makes me wonder if I'm on the outside of an inside joke, like "duh! That's how we weed them out! Silly Manko"

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 1:50:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

To be honest, the fact that I don't request it and get emails from every wanker in the western hemisphere makes me wonder if I'm on the outside of an inside joke, like "duh! That's how we weed them out! Silly Manko"


I'd send you tribute, but you don't know where I want to swipe my card.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 1:56:16 PM   
GoddessManko


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ORIGINAL: Gauge

I'd send you tribute, but you don't know where I want to swipe my card.


Pfft! Promises, promises, you still owe me some "bow chicka wow wow!" Kidding, kidding, LOL.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 2:06:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR?


If they should have to tribute, I think that male Doms with female subs should have to do the same.

I mean, after all, women are women, right??

OP. what you're asking is trying to put the round "fetish" into the square hole....

Yes, there are dominant females who will insist tribute...and there are others who don't. (I believe the latter outnumbers the former, but I have no hard data on that).

If you as a male sub don't agree with tribute, then don't do it. There are plenty of female D types who don't subscribe to this....

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 2:13:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


quote:

ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR?


If they should have to tribute, I think that male Doms with female subs should have to do the same.

I mean, after all, women are women, right??

Wouldn't that depend on whether this was a dom/sub thing or a man/woman thing?

I had the impression it was the former.

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 2:21:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Wouldn't that depend on whether this was a dom/sub thing or a man/woman thing?

I had the impression it was the former.

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


I mean the female sub demanding tribute.

Either way, it's asinine, IMO.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 2:23:56 PM   
GoddessManko


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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


quote:

ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Wouldn't that depend on whether this was a dom/sub thing or a man/woman thing?

I had the impression it was the former.

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


I mean the female sub demanding tribute.

Either way, it's asinine, IMO.



Hmm, it was my impression many female subs do it. Well on FL they do, and some on here. The "princess/brat" types seeking "Daddy Doms". I have even seen a male sub do it if memory serves.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 2:31:41 PM   
littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko


quote:

ORIGINAL: littleladybug


quote:

ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

Wouldn't that depend on whether this was a dom/sub thing or a man/woman thing?

I had the impression it was the former.

Either way, I can't see a male Dom demanding tribute going over well.


I mean the female sub demanding tribute.

Either way, it's asinine, IMO.



Hmm, it was my impression many female subs do it. Well on FL they do, and some on here. The "princess/brat" types seeking "Daddy Doms". I have even seen a male sub do it if memory serves.


Do they, really?

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 2:31:42 PM   
FieryOpal


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Status: offline 		I could be completely mistaken and coming out of left field. Originally in the BDSM leather tradition, a submissive was to bring the Dominant a small gift as an entrée or token of interest. If the Dominant (those achieving the rank of Master were predominantly gay/non-hetero males) accepted this gift, then the submissive was a viable candidate for consideration as a slave, or else for an NSA play session until earning the right to be collared and trained as a slave. Submissives generally greatly outnumber Dominants or those available to serve as a Top. Dommes especially can pick and choose the cream of the crop.

It's still a matter of supply and demand. If you are a male sub, You Play, You Pay.
With an experienced Pro-Domme, she can still afford which paying clients she wants to try out or keep.
There's a market out there for Financial Domination, and with Cyber-Domming, you take your chances.
Some subs want to remain in the fantasy zone and will never leave it (or else flake out from moving into RT-Real Time).
To them, a Dominant woman (or facsimile thereof) is not much more than a kink & fetish delivery system for them.
There are Fin-Dommes who are also lifestyle Dommes and will require tribute on a regular basis.

If a Domme seeks a primary partner, oftentimes they encounter the mentality that the male sub is not worthy.
Therefore, it isn't uncommon for the last thing to be on such a sub's mind is the concept of dating a Domme as if she were a *real* woman and not a FemDom porn caricature fantasy figure.

There are much fewer fully lifestyle Dommes. Some are bisexual. Some are poly and are open to collaring multiple subs.
An FLR-lifestyle Domme ordinarily seeks a fully integrated, committed, intimate D/s relationship dynamic (which may or may not include BDSM bedroom activities). The ones I know, myself included, are marriage-minded.
You can't afford our price. Your money's no good here, because we only accept relationship currency. No different than out in the vanilla world, where you not only have to be a suitably compatible match, but you have to be husband material.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 2:48:37 PM   
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It really comes down to a matter of just letting people do their thing. If paying some chick isn't your scene, don't do it. If some chick is wanting money and some dude is willing to pay it, more power to them. Getting on a soapbox isn't going to change anything. It takes far too much energy to complain about other folks and their kinks.

Live and let live

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 5:59:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

Should male subs/slaves have to tribute to serve in a FLR?


In my view, a woman who asks for money in any form (Amazon gift wish or whatever) is a professional domme. Not my thing, but if it's yours, that's cool. That said, if I was willing to pay a pro domme, I wouldn't bother with online rigmarole. I'd see no reason to romance or pursue a pro domme; I'd see her as someone that I was purchasing a service from.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 6:04:36 PM   
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That wouldn't be the problem if these women weren't the same ones complaining about how males slaves on here are not serious and are fully of crap. Or if these women identified themselves as Pro-dommes.


Dude, they complain and don't declare themselves as pro dommes because that is part of their marketing strategy. They want to suck in dopes by creating a persona of a frustrated, lifestyle domme. In all likelihood, most of them are not dommes, or even women. They are just scammers who want online idiots to send them money.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/10/2014 6:30:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Years ago some former regulars here, lifestyle dommes, explained that asking for a CD or DVD, something costing no more than $25 or thereabouts was a way to determine if a guy was planning to meet them or stand them up. Because a guy who wouldn't spring for more than the cost of coffee and a snack for two at Starbucks was probably not going to show at Starbucks. They got tired of being stood up. And a guy who wouldn't buy a small, nonsexual item off a wish list was rarely real.

Now if you're talking about serious money, then it's a scam.

If you aren't willing to do this op, then I suggest you start going to munches. Because the odds are against a lifestyle domme talking to you for weeks and months until you feel like meeting. Go someplace where she was going anyway and she'll be more interested in talking to you.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/11/2014 2:50:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		What the fuck is up with people not wanting to take a coffee with people they say they will take a coffee with?
Ofcs if you want me to go to a cheesy overpriced place like Starbucks to drink a whole meal consisting of coffee then I might reconsider too, but I'll mention it earlier!

(Seriously, Starbucks is the scourge killing all pretty little places everywhere, evil, evil).

No, I think it's ridicilous. Unless that's a part of the whole thing.


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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/11/2014 3:50:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		As others have said, it's a very simple thing:

Everyone (including you) has a right to demand what they want to demand to start a relationship in the way they feel comfortable.

You have a right to turn that down, and decide it's not for you.

Easy-peasy.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/11/2014 7:27:17 AM   
GoddessManko


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ORIGINAL: seekingreality


quote:

ORIGINAL: MartianMan9

That wouldn't be the problem if these women weren't the same ones complaining about how males slaves on here are not serious and are fully of crap. Or if these women identified themselves as Pro-dommes.


Dude, they complain and don't declare themselves as pro dommes because that is part of their marketing strategy. They want to suck in dopes by creating a persona of a frustrated, lifestyle domme. In all likelihood, most of them are not dommes, or even women. They are just scammers who want online idiots to send them money.


I welcome you to give my inbox a gander and you tell me. Listen, it's like picking a needle in a haystack for everyone.You just have to know what you are willing to invest in order to get to know someone. Same as everyone else has stated and this is something only you can decide at the end of the day.

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RE: Tribute for a FLR? - 12/11/2014 8:21:37 AM   
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What the fuck is up with people not wanting to take a coffee with people they say they will take a coffee with?
Ofcs if you want me to go to a cheesy overpriced place like Starbucks to drink a whole meal consisting of coffee then I might reconsider too, but I'll mention it earlier!

(Seriously, Starbucks is the scourge killing all pretty little places everywhere, evil, evil).

No, I think it's ridicilous. Unless that's a part of the whole thing.

The overpriced part isn't as bad as having no conversational privacy around the other customers.

I learned everything I never needed to learn about Ottawa from a Tantric Master.
(Nothing against Ottawa, but that wasn't the point of the get-together.)

It did help to reaffirm to me that no matter how good-looking and intelligent someone is, if he acts like he's some sort of sex god chick magnet,..that's not an attractive quality.

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