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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:27:28 PM   
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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:32:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well that just might work.
We issue all the "weak" people with firearms thereby evening the playing field so to speak.
No one would be bullied and everyone would feel safe,warm and fuzzy.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:33:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, a millitia can certainly be made up of vigilantes.

I am getitng really annoyed with the condescending attitude. I came here for a friendly debate. And once again, the police part was just one sentence in my OP, the other was about us not waiting for someone else to solve the problem. Because sometimes i feel maybe, a rape or murder could have been stopped if a citizen had stepped in to stop it before it happened. Or maybe Im dumb. IDK

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:35:18 PM   
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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:37:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		....you really just made a post saying "Uh-Huh" seriously, you wont even debate me properly. Instead of saying "you are wrong, this is whats correct" you just say "uh-huh".

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:41:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry to sound condescending but you having a gun cause you feel weak and powerless isn't going to elicit much else from me by way of response

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:45:36 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		^ what mike said. This isn't a "debate." Happy trolling.

At least your posts are shorter than when you were Cobalt. But pass just the same.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:46:40 PM   
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Sorry to sound condescending but you having a gun cause you feel weak and powerless isn't going to elicit much else from me by way of response


My post was more of a responce to Musicmystery. And I think you responded to the wrong thread. My post about having a gun because I am weak was in that "chiping away at 2nd ammendment" thread.

But as for your point, ok, how else can I defend myself? Because right now it seems you are basically saying "if you cant defend yourself without a gun you deserve to die or be raped or have bad stuff happen to you" so please, tell me what else i can do that can make sure if someone wants to hurt or kill me I can defend myself.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 8:49:55 PM   
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^ what mike said. This isn't a "debate." Happy trolling.

At least your posts are shorter than when you were Cobalt. But pass just the same.

Once again, no one is telling me how I am trolling. The correct term is MISINFORMED!. If you are gonna call me wrong, get it right. I am NOT doing this intentionally. I bet you actually enjoy me being wrong. Thats why you wont correct me. You just give vague hints.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:12:07 PM   
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I guess my biggest worry is if im called a troll, then any other thread I make, no matter how good, will be assumed to be a troll thread.

Troll is a term people use when they wish to discredit you without going to the trouble of coming up with a reason.
Coming from some people it means you are right on.
That said I don't recall seeing anyone call for the elimination of the police.
Many of the people who don't think we should be allowed to defend ourselves are the first to trash the cops.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:16:20 PM   
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I guess my biggest worry is if im called a troll, then any other thread I make, no matter how good, will be assumed to be a troll thread.

Troll is a term people use when they wish to discredit you without going to the trouble of coming up with a reason.
Coming from some people it means you are right on.
That said I don't recall seeing anyone call for the elimination of the police.
Many of the people who don't think we should be allowed to defend ourselves are the first to trash the cops.

And frankly I think we still need the police. Maybe its just a very small amount who think they need to be abolished. Mostly a post I saw on a facebook group. So it may be just a few people. note that "some" is a VERY vague amount.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:16:31 PM   
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Apparently to some "millitia" is the same as "redneck racists with guns" while to me a good millitia would be "a group of people who look out for each and protect their neighborhood." with the gund mostly just being for the intimidation factor, though still be used as a last resort.

Neighborhood watch.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:22:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid

Apparently to some "millitia" is the same as "redneck racists with guns" while to me a good millitia would be "a group of people who look out for each and protect their neighborhood." with the gund mostly just being for the intimidation factor, though still be used as a last resort.

Neighborhood watch.

Exactly, a Neighborhood Watch that has some low end weapons to help deter crime. If possible they should be trained by proffesionals.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:30:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid

Apparently to some "millitia" is the same as "redneck racists with guns" while to me a good millitia would be "a group of people who look out for each and protect their neighborhood." with the gund mostly just being for the intimidation factor, though still be used as a last resort.

Neighborhood watch.

Exactly, a Neighborhood Watch that has some low end weapons to help deter crime. If possible they should be trained by proffesionals.

I am our unofficial Neighborhood Watch, I carry a .45, but I have been trained by both military and police.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:33:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid

Apparently to some "millitia" is the same as "redneck racists with guns" while to me a good millitia would be "a group of people who look out for each and protect their neighborhood." with the gund mostly just being for the intimidation factor, though still be used as a last resort.

Neighborhood watch.

Exactly, a Neighborhood Watch that has some low end weapons to help deter crime. If possible they should be trained by proffesionals.

I am our unofficial Neighborhood Watch, I carry a .45, but I have been trained by both military and police.

Yeah, that would be good. have a small group of former police or military (who do not have PTSD) help defend their neighborhoods. Like, a local-local police force thats dedicated to that neighborhood.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:44:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DemonicGynoid

Apparently to some "millitia" is the same as "redneck racists with guns" while to me a good millitia would be "a group of people who look out for each and protect their neighborhood." with the gund mostly just being for the intimidation factor, though still be used as a last resort.

Neighborhood watch.

Exactly, a Neighborhood Watch that has some low end weapons to help deter crime. If possible they should be trained by proffesionals.

I am our unofficial Neighborhood Watch, I carry a .45, but I have been trained by both military and police.

Yeah, that would be good. have a small group of former police or military (who do not have PTSD) help defend their neighborhoods. Like, a local-local police force thats dedicated to that neighborhood.

Before the usual suspects go off the deep end. If there is time, I will always call the police. They have the authority and I am in no hurry to shoot anyone. Anytime you intervene in something there is always the chance that things will get out of had.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:47:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course. Always call the police first, but if you hear things getting real bad you should act.

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:49:26 PM   
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Of course. Always call the police first, but if you hear things getting real bad you should act.

Exactly
and act wisely, not rashly

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 9:54:30 PM   
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Seriously, why couldnt we have this just be the entire thread, instead of the accusations of me being a troll?

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RE: A Society Of Bystanders - 12/29/2014 10:56:21 PM   
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Of course.

Seriously, why couldnt we have this just be the entire thread, instead of the accusations of me being a troll?

Because some of us mistake personal attacks for effective debating, and it becomes addictive.

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