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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:12:53 AM   
Musicmystery


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I know these are challenging topics for you, but guess what? That's not militant.

Bombing an abortion clinic--much better example.

Not to mention militant Christian groups globally:

Anti-Muslim violence in Central Africa

Further information: Central African Republic conflict under the Djotodia administration

After the predominantly Muslim Seleka militia took control of the Central African Republic under President Michel Djotodia in 2013, a period of lawlessness and sectarian violence continued. Following warnings of "genocide" by the UN and a controversial intervention force by MISCA, Djotodia resigned. Despite neutral Catherine Samba-Panza being made president, the Anti-balaka Christian militants continued sectarian violence, including reported targeted killings, against Muslim civilians.[21]

Anti-Hindu violence in India

Christian violence arose in various contiguous states in North-East India.[22] In 2000, John Joseph, a member of India's National Minority Commission, described Christian militancy as rampant in the northeastern states.[22]

Tripura
Further information: Tripura rebellion

The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), is a rebel group that seeks the secession of Tripura, North-East India, and is a proscribed terrorist organization in India. Group activities have been described as Christian terrorists engaging in terrorist violence motivated by their Christian beliefs.[23][24] The NLFT includes in its aims the forced conversion of all tribespeople in Tripura to Christianity.[25] The NLFT says that it is fighting not only for the removal of Bengali immigrants from the tribal areas, "but also for the tribal areas of the state to become overtly Christian", and "has warned members of the tribal community that they may be attacked if they do not accept its Christian agenda".[26] The NLFT is listed as a terrorist organization in the Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002.[27] The state government contends that the Baptist Church of Tripura supplies arms and gives financial support to the NLFT.[28][29][30] Reports from the state government and Indian media describe activities such as the acquisition by the NLFT of explosives through the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura,[30] and threats of killing Hindus celebrating religious festivals.[31] Over 20 Hindus in Tripura were reported to have been killed by the NLFT from 1999 to 2001 for resisting forced conversion to Christianity.[32] According to Hindus in the area, there have also been forced conversions of tribal villagers to Christianity by armed NLFT militants.[32] These forcible conversions, sometimes including the use of "rape as a means of intimidation", have also been noted by academics outside of India.[33] In 2000, the NLFT broke into a temple and gunned down a popular Hindu preacher popularly known as Shanti Kali.[25]

Odisha
See also: Religious violence in Odisha

In 2007 a tribal spiritual Hindu monk, Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati, accused Radhakant Nayak, chief of a local chapter of World Vision, and a former Rajya Sabha member from Odisha in the Indian National Congress party, of plotting to assassinate him.[34] The Swami also said that World Vision was covertly pumping money into India for religious conversion during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami, and criticized the activities of Christian missionaries as going against tribal beliefs.[35] In 2008, he was gunned down along with four disciples on the Hindu festive day of Krishna Janmashtami by a group of 30–40 armed men.[36] Later, the Maoist terrorist leader Sabyasachi Panda admitted responsibility for the assassination, saying that the Maoists had intervened in the religious dispute on behalf of Christians and Dalits.[37][38] The non-governmental organization Justice on Trial disputed that there had been Maoist involvement, and quoted the Swami as claiming that Christian missionaries had earlier attacked him eight times.[39][40]

Nagaland
Main article: National Socialist Council of Nagaland

Nagaland is a Christian majority state in India. Many terrorist incidents have been documented there as a result of an insurgency against the government. This insurgency was originally led by the National Socialist Council of Nagaland (NSCN), who has indulged in terrorist activities varying from kidnapping, illegal drug trafficking, extortion, etc.[41] The group has committed religious violence, as a part of NSCN's described mission of forcibly converting the animist Naga to Christianity, which has been described by B. B. Kumar as Christian terrorism.[24] Other goals include the formation of a greater Nagaland. There are occasional reports of the NSCN using force to convert locals of neighboring states to Christianity.[42]

Manipur

The National Socialist Council of Nagaland, Issac-Muivah faction (slogan: "Nagaland for Christ"), is accused of carrying out the 1992–1993 ethnic cleansing of Kuki tribes in Manipur, said to have leave over 900 people dead. During that NSCN-IM operation, 350 Kuki villages were driven out and about 100,000 Kukis were turned into refugees.[43]

Sabra and Shatila massacre

Maronite Christian militias perpetrated the Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres of Palestinians and Lebanese Muslims during Lebanon's 1975–1990 civil war. The 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacre, which targeted unarmed Palestinian refugees for rape and murder, was considered to be genocide by the United Nations General Assembly.[44] A British photographer present during the incident said that "People who committed the acts of murder that I saw that day were wearing [crucifixes] and were calling themselves Christians."[45] After the end of the civil war, Christian militias refused to disband, concentrating in the Israeli-occupied south of the country, where they terrorized Muslim and Druze villages and forcefully recruited men and boys from those communities into their groups.[46]

Northern Ireland paramilitaries

Terrorist acts, with various motives, were committed by loyalists and republicans during the Troubles in Northern Ireland. Although most loyalists were Protestant and most republicans were Catholic, it is widely seen as an ethno-nationalist conflict that was not religious in nature.[47][48][49][50][51][52][53][54][55][56][57][58][59][60] Some experts who subscribe to this view argue that religion was also a motivating factor, with Philip Purpura calling it an "overlap" between religious terrorism and ethnic/nationalist terrorism.[61][62][63] Professor Mark Juergensmeyer argues that some terrorist acts were religious terrorism or justified by religion.[64] Professors Jonathan Matusitz (a critic of religion) and Ayla Hammond Schbley (a counterterrorism expert) described the Provisional IRA as Christian terrorists,[65][66] a characterization that is at odds with multiple other analysts.[48][49][56][57][67][68][69]

Sociology professor Steve Bruce noted that most loyalist paramilitaries are fundamentally different from Islamists, in that they see religion and politics as separate and do not advocate killing "heretics". He did, however, characterize three small loyalist splinter groups – the Orange Volunteers, Loyalist Volunteer Force, and Red Hand Defenders – as terrorist groups motivated by violent "Christian imagery" preached by Protestant evangelicals.[70] The leader of the Orange Volunteers, pastor Clifford Peeples, defended their attacks on Catholic churches on the basis that they were "bastions of the Antichrist".[71][72]

Utøya Island killings
Main article: 2011 Norway attacks

In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island that killed 77 people. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500-page manifesto detailing his beliefs that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a "Christian crusader" while describing himself as not very religious.[73][74] Although initial news reports described him as a Christian fundamentalist,[75][76] subsequent analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[77][78] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[79][80] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[81]

Lord's Resistance Army


The Lord's Resistance Army, a cult and guerrilla army, was engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in 2005. It has been accused of using child soldiers and of committing numerous crimes against humanity; including massacres, abductions, mutilation, torture, rape, and using forced child labourers as soldiers, porters, and sex slaves.[82] A quasi-religious movement that mixes some aspects of Christian beliefs with its own brand of spiritualism,[83][84] it is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the "Holy Spirit" which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations.[85][85][86][87] LRA fighters wear rosary beads and recite passages from the Bible before battle.[83][88][89][90][91][92]

Christian Identity and anti-abortion killings

See also: Anti-abortion violence in the United States and Christian terrorism in the United States

After 1981, members of groups such as the Army of God began attacking abortion clinics and doctors across the United States.[93][94][95] A number of terrorist attacks were attributed by Bruce Hoffman to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ.[96] A group called Concerned Christians was deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999; they believed that their deaths would "lead them to heaven".[97][98]

The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on 31 May 2009 was the belief that abortion is not only immoral, but also a form of murder under "God's law", irrespective of "man's law" in any country, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs.[99][100] The group supporting Roeder proclaimed that any force is "legitimate to protect the life of an unborn child", and called on all Christians to "rise up" and "take action" against threats to Christianity and to unborn life.[101] Eric Robert Rudolph carried out the Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and on a lesbian nightclub. Michael Barkun, a professor at Syracuse University, considers Rudolph to likely fit the definition of a Christian terrorist. James A. Aho, a professor at Idaho State University, argues that religious considerations inspired Rudolph only in part.[102]

Terrorism scholar Aref M. Al-Khattar has listed The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, Defensive Action, The Freemen Community, and some "Christian militia" as groups that "can be placed under the category of far-right-wing terrorism" that "has a religious (Christian) component".[103]

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:25:29 AM   
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Pretty much all incidents from backwater tribal regions of Bumfuck Nowhere...

Anyone can post copy & paste

Since 9/11, terrorism in the name of Allah occurs in:

India and the Sudan and Algeria and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Morocco and Yemen and Arkansas and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Georgia and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Illinois and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and New Jersey and the Netherlands and Afghanistan and Chad and Oklahoma and Canada and Washington State and China and Nepal and the Maldives and Argentina and Mali and Angola and the Ukraine and Uganda and North Carolina and Germany and Arizona and Lebanon and Iran and Kazakhstan and Sweden and Azerbaijan and Iraq and Scotland and Macedonia and Bulgaria and Cameroon and Massachusetts and Djibouti and Australia and...

...and pretty much wherever Islam is taken seriously:

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who
are near to you, and let them find harshness in you,
and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty"
Qur'an, Sura 9:123

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2015.01.15 Syria Ma'arat al Nu'man 1 0 A woman is publicly executed for running a brothel.
2015.01.14 Iraq al-Karma 11 0 A child is among eleven Iraqis executed in front of their families by ISIS.
2015.01.13 Afghanistan Paktia 3 0 Three civilians are pulled into pieces by a Taliban bomb.
2015.01.11 Nigeria Potiskum 6 46 Six others are killed when two female suicide bombers detonate in succession at a popular market.
2015.01.10 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid 2 0 Two people are beheaded by Islamic extremists.
2015.01.10 Lebanon Tripoli 8 36 Two caliphate suicide bombers at a Shiite cafe blows eight patrons to bits.
2015.01.09 France Paris 4 5 Four hostages are taken and killed by an Islamic gunman at a Jewish grocery.
2015.01.09 Pakistan Rawalpindi 8 20 Eight worshippers are blown to bits by a suicide bomber at a Shia mosque.
2015.01.08 Iraq Baghdad 8 16 A Sunni suicide bomber wades into a Shiite mosque and slaughters at least eight worshippers.
2015.01.08 France Montrouge 1 1 A policewoman investigating a traffic accident is ambushed and killed by a Muslim extremist.
2015.01.07 Afghanistan Zhari 2 11 Taliban bombers take out two children gathering firewood.
2015.01.07 Yemen Sanaa 37 67 A al-Qaeda suicide bus bomber scatters body parts and snuffs out thirty-seven lives at a college.
2015.01.07 Afghanistan Baghlan 6 3 Six road workers are machine-gunned point-blank by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2015.01.07 France Paris 12 10 A dozen people are slaughtered by gunmen 'avenging' the prophet at a newspaper office which printed satirical cartoons critical of Islam.
2015.01.07 Afghanistan Nawzad 1 0 A local cop dies trying to stop a suicide bomber.
2015.01.07 Syria Raqqa 1 0 A magician is beheaded by the Islamic State on the grounds that illusions are an insult to Allah.
2015.01.07 Nigeria Askira 26 0 Over two dozen residents of a small village are slaughtered by Boko Haram.
2015.01.07 Nigeria Baga 2000 0 More than 2000 villagers are feared dead following a massive killing spree by Boko Haram that spanned 16 villages.
2015.01.07 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Jihadis set off two bombs near a restaurant, killing four.
2015.01.07 Iraq Ghazlani 5 0 Five Iraqis are abducted from their homes and shot in the back of the head by the Islamic State.
2015.01.07 Iraq Mosul 4 3 A Fedayeen suicide bomber claims the lives of four others.
2015.01.07 Pakistan Qila Saifullah 1 0 Tehreek-e-Taliban kidnap, execute a man and then toss his body by the side of the road.
2015.01.07 Pakistan Kamra 1 0 A mentally-challenged man is accused of blasphemy and quickly shot to death in his home.
2015.01.06 Syria Deir al-Zor 1 0 A man is beheaded - allegedly for smoking.
2015.01.06 Dagestan Khasavyurt 2 2 Suspected extremists ambush and kill two local cops.
2015.01.06 Afghanistan Shekhzo 3 2 Three family members are modularized when fundamentalists fire a rocket into their home.
2015.01.06 Egypt Cairo 2 0 Two men guarding a church are shot to death by extremists.
2015.01.06 Pakistan Landhi 2 0 Two security personnel are slain by Islamist militants.
2015.01.06 Iraq al-Jubba 23 21 A suicide attack on a mosque and the ensuing clash leave two dozen dead.
2015.01.06 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Radical Muslims murder a bride and groom for putting wedding decorations on their car.
2015.01.06 Iraq Haditha 7 13 Seven Iraqis are taken out by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.01.06 Egypt Cairo 1 3 An Ajnad Misr bomb hidden in a flower pot kills a policeman trying to defuse it.
2015.01.06 Pakistan Nazimabad 2 0 Two Shiite brothers are murdered in their shop by Sipah-e-Sahaba.
2015.01.06 Iraq Mosul 23 0 Three female lawyers and twenty young men are executed in cold blood by caliphate members.
2015.01.06 Turkey Sultanahmet 1 1 Polic blame al-Qaeda after a pregnant Russian woman sets off a suicide blast at a station.
2015.01.05 Afghanistan Kabul 1 5 Six civilians are affected by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.01.05 Afghanistan Zabul 2 9 Two civilians at a market are sent to Allah by Taliban bombers.
2015.01.05 Pakistan Kalya 5 11 Terrorists bomb a playground, claiming five lives.
2015.01.05 Nigeria Baga 31 0 At least ten women are among over thirty killed during an assault on a village by Boko Haram.
2015.01.05 Iraq Salaheddin 8 0 Eight Iraqis are lined up and shot in the head by the Islamic State.
2015.01.05 Mali Nampala 7 0 An al-Qaeda-backed attack on a small border town leaves seven dead.
2015.01.05 Saudi Arabia Arar 3 3 A suicide blast leaves three border guards dead.
2015.01.05 Afghanistan Zabul 3 11 A Taliban suicide bomber takes out three civilians.
2015.01.04 Somalia Mogadishu 4 1 Four civilians are reduced to pulp by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.01.04 Tunisia Zaghouan 1 0 Religious extremists slit the throat of an off-duty policeman.
2015.01.04 Nigeria Kantoma 2 10 Two people preparing for church are shot to death by Fulani terrorists.
2015.01.04 Somalia Baladweyne 1 0 A teenager is beheaded by al-Shabaab.
2015.01.04 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 0 A female doctor and her husband are murdered by fundamentalists.
2015.01.04 Yemen Ansarullah 4 25 A journalist is among four people blown to bits by an al-Qaeda bomb.
2015.01.04 Iraq Fallujah 4 5 Four are killed when ISIS sends shells into a town.
2015.01.04 Nigeria Lugda 1 4 One person dies from injuries suffered from a Boko Haram bombing.
2015.01.03 Mali Gao 2 0 A man and son are ambushed and killed by Islamic extremists.
2015.01.03 Iraq Garma 15 0 Fifteen Iraqis are lined up and shot in the back of the head by caliphate members.
2015.01.03 Iraq Shirquat 7 0 A child and two women are among seven civilians disassembled by Religion of Peace bombers.
2015.01.03 Iraq Anbar 1 0 A local journalist is arrested and executed by the Islamic State for 'being an infidel'.
2015.01.02 Somalia Baidoa 7 3 A surprise attack by al-Shabaab leaves seven local soldiers dead.
2015.01.02 Iraq Baghdad 23 0 Sectarian Jihadis execute two dozen people and throw their bodies into a river.
2015.01.02 Iraq Tuz 3 0 Three civilians are kidnapped and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.01.02 Libya Sukna 17 0 Jihadists slit the throats of fourteen soldiers and three civilians.
2015.01.02 Somalia Galkayo 1 5 Teachers are among the casualties of a deadly car bomb attack outside a school.
2015.01.02 Nigeria Ambe-Madaki 15 40 Fifteen villagers are massacred when Muslim terrorists attack a Christian village.
2015.01.02 Afghanistan Lashkargah 4 0 Four bank employees are killed by a planted bomb.
2015.01.02 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A security guard at a school is picked off by Muslim gunmen.
2015.01.02 Libya Sabha 14 0 Fourteen local soldiers are captured and executed by Islamic State supporters.
2015.01.01 Iraq Basra 3 2 Three Sunni preachers are shot to death by sectarian Jihadis.
2015.01.01 Nigeria Gombe 0 8 A suicide bomber detonates at the entrance of a church service.
2015.01.01 Afghanistan Kapisa 1 3 One person is killed when Jihadis bomb a car.
2015.01.01 Iraq Baqubah 3 0 Mujahideen murder three people in their own home.
2015.01.01 Syria Aleppo 13 18 Terrorists fire rockets into a neighborhood, killing over a dozen.
2015.01.01 Iraq Samarrah 2 5 Two worshippers bleed to death when Sunnis mortar a Shiite shrine.
2015.01.01 Iraq Yathrib 7 0 Seven Iraqis are killed in a house by caliphate members.
2015.01.01 Cameroon Maroua 15 10 Islamists pour machine-gun fire into a bus, killing fifteen passengers.
2015.01.01 Iraq Fallujah 15 0 Fifteen tribesmen are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.01.01 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Shiite doctor is assassinated outside his clinic by Sunni radicals.
2015.01.01 Afghanistan Jalalabad 1 2 Sunni hardliners murder a border guard.
2014.12.31 Afghanistan Qush Tepa 5 9 The Taliban ambush and kill five militants trying to give up their arms.
2014.12.31 Afghanistan Bati Kot 2 5 Sunni hardliners fire bullets into a store, killing two people.
2014.12.31 Afghanistan Oruzgan 3 5 A Taliban in police uniform shoots eight local cops.
2014.12.31 Yemen Ibb 49 70 A suicide bomber dressed as a woman slaughters nearly fifty innocents at a Shiite celebration, including women and children.
2014.12.31 Nigeria Fika 6 6 A pro-Sharia suicide car bomber kills six people.
2014.12.31 Nigeria Kantoma 3 0 Three members of a church are cut down in a vicious assault by Muslim terrorists.
2014.12.31 Iran Sarbaz 2 0 A Shiite teacher is among two people killed in a suspected sectarian attack.
2014.12.31 Pakistan Swat 3 1 Sunni fundamentalists attack and kill three members of a security patrol.
2014.12.31 Philippines Mlang 2 30 Muslim 'rebels' set off a bomb packed with nails at a market crowded with New Year's revelers, killing two.
2014.12.30 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three Kurds are captured at Sinjar and beheaded by ISIS.
2014.12.30 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 A young woman is among two people murdered by suspected al-Shabaab.
2014.12.30 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two physicians are executed by the Islamic State.
2014.12.30 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Shia activist is lynched by devout Sunnis.
2014.12.30 Libya Tobruk 0 11 Eleven others are wounded when a suicide bomber detonates outside parliament.
2014.12.30 Syria Aleppo 15 5 Jabha Shamiyeh claim a bombing that leaves fifteen dead.
2014.12.30 Syria Raqqa 13 0 Thirteen prisoners are pulled out of a truck and executed by the Islamic State.
2014.12.29 Syria Deir al-Zor 70 0 Seventy tribal victims of a mass Islamic State execution are discovered in a mass grave.
2014.12.29 Afghanistan Helmand 4 3 Four Afghans are murdered by militants seeking a theocratic state.
2014.12.29 Syria Homs 8 12 Two suicide bombers target separate natural gas facilities, killing at least eight others.
2014.12.29 Iraq Taji 17 35 A Shahid suicide bomber dismantles seventeen Shiite mourners at a funeral tent.
2014.12.29 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 Terrorists shoot a man to death at a market.
2014.12.29 Yemen Hadramawt 2 11 al-Qaeda take out two members of a security patrol.
2014.12.29 Yemen Marib 1 2 al-Qaeda bombers kill a civilian.
2014.12.29 Nigeria Kautikari 15 0 Fifteen people are machine-gunned in the street by Boko Haram.
2014.12.29 Iraq al-Baghdadi 4 13 A Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates inside a restaurant, killing four patrons.
2014.12.29 Iraq Baqubah 2 3 Terrorists riddle two civilians with bullets as they drive by.
2014.12.28 Iran Saravan 3 0 Jaish-ul Adl members are suspected of an attack that leaves three border guards dead.
2014.12.28 Uganda Kampala 1 0 A Muslim scholar is shot to death for refusing to cooperate with Islamic radicals.
2014.12.28 Nigeria Potiskum 1 0 A bomb targeting soccer fans kills a food vendor.
2014.12.28 India Bangalore 1 3 Students Islamic Movement of India are suspected of a blast near a bar that leaves a woman dead
2014.12.28 Egypt Alexandria 1 4 Suspected Islamists spray gunfire at a security checkpoint, killing one person.
2014.12.28 Yemen Aden 1 2 One person is taken out by an al-Qaeda blast.
2014.12.28 Afghanistan Lahgman 2 2 Two civilians are blown to bits by fundamentalist bombers.
2014.12.28 Syria Aleppo 6 10 Two children are among six souls sent to Allah by a caliphate car bomb.
2014.12.27 Cameroon Mozogo 30 3 Boko Haram burn down a village and slaughter at least thirty residents.
2014.12.27 Egypt Cairo 2 0 Two guards at a bank are gunned down by suspected extremists.
2014.12.27 Yemen Sanaa 12 0 A dozen people are left dead after Sunnis and Shia clash.
2014.12.27 Nigeria Tattaura 10 0 Muslims slaughter ten Christians.
2014.12.27 Iraq Tuz Khurmatu 1 0 A Kurdish imam is shot to death by Shiite militia.
2014.12.27 Afghanistan Wardak 3 5 Fundamentalists send a rocket into a volleyball match, killing three participants.
2014.12.27 Pakistan Bhiri Sha Rehman 1 0 An Ahmadi is shot in the head shortly after a TV preacher rails against the religious minority.
2014.12.26 Afghanistan Nad-e-Ali 3 0 A woman and child are among three killed by a Religion of Peace IED.
2014.12.26 Pakistan Sarki Mela 1 2 A civilian is killed when militant Muslims open indiscriminate fire at a checkpoint.
2014.12.26 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 Four Afghans are exterminated by Taliban bombers.
2014.12.25 Somalia Mogadishu 4 0 Four others are killed during an al-Shabaab small arms attack targeting Christians celebrating Christmas.
2014.12.25 Libya Benghazi 20 0 Six people are beheaded, and fourteen others shot by Islamists.
2014.12.25 Egypt al-Arish 1 1 Religious extremists kill one person with a planted landmine.
2014.12.25 Libya Sirte 1 0 A 13-year-old Coptic girl is murdered and dumped after being abducted by Islamists.
2014.12.25 Israel Jerusalem 0 2 Palestinians fire-bomb a family vehicle, severely injuring an 11-year-old girl.
2014.12.25 Afghanistan Faryab 2 1 A woman and daughter are murdered in their own home in a suspected honor killing.
2014.12.25 Iraq Jalawla 10 0 Ten victims of an ISIS ambush are found in a shallow grave.
2014.12.25 DRC Ndalya 10 12 ADF terrorists hack ten villagers to death in the middle of the night.
2014.12.25 Libya al-Sidra 22 0 Twenty-two local soldiers are killed during a surprise attack by Fajr Libya.
2014.12.24 Iraq Madain 43 61 At least forty Iraqis are exterminated by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2014.12.24 Iraq al-Baghdadi 4 0 Four children are reported dead during a siege in which ISIS lobs chlorine canisters into a town.
2014.12.24 Iraq Yusufiya 4 7 Four civilians at a market are pulled into pieces by a Mujahid bomb blast.
2014.12.24 Somalia Garbahaarreey 2 0 Two brothers are captured and executed by al-Shabaab.
2014.12.23 Libya Sirte 2 1 Muslim radicals murder a Christian couple and abduct their daughter.
2014.12.23 Yemen Sanaa 1 2 An al-Qaeda bomb produces one dead Shiite.
2014.12.23 Afghanistan Kunduz 1 6 A Taliban bomb explodes in front of a bank, killing one person.
2014.12.23 Egypt Sinai 2 0 Two captives are shot in the head by Ansar Beit al-Maqdis.
2014.12.23 Uganda Mayuge 1 0 A moderate Shia cleric is shot to death by ADF.
2014.12.23 Iraq Jurf al-Sakhar 20 0 Twenty victims of 'brutal' ISIS executions are discovered in a mass grave.
2014.12.23 Iraq Baghdad 2 7 Two people are disassembled by Mujahideen bombers.
2014.12.23 Somalia Kismayo 1 2 Islamists gun down a local official.
2014.12.23 Yemen Sanaa 2 2 al-Qaeda is thought responsible for bombing and small arms attacks that kill two Shiites.
2014.12.22 Nigeria Bauchi 8 20 Religion of Peace bombers hit a market at closing time, killing at least eight innocents.
2014.12.22 Pakistan Gulberg 1 2 A sectarian drive-by on three Shiites sitting outside motorcycle showroom leaves one dead.
2014.12.22 Nigeria Gombe 20 21 Sharia proponents detonate a bomb at a bus station, sending shrapnel through dozens of bystanders.
2014.12.22 France Nantes 1 9 One person is left clinically dead when yet another man shouting Allah Akbar plunges his car into a Christmas market.
2014.12.21 Yemen Arhab 42 0 Forty-two Shiites are killed in a revenge attack by Sunni radicals.
2014.12.21 Yemen Arhab 4 26 An Ansarullah ambush leaves four dead.
2014.12.21 Afghanistan Shor Darya 5 0 Five children are disassembled by a Taliban landmine.
2014.12.21 France Dijon 0 13 A convert to Islam praises Allah as he runs down pedestrians with his car 'for the children of Palestine'.
2014.12.21 Iraq Mosul 5 0 The caliphate executes five Yazidi women.
2014.12.21 Iraq Muqdadiya 2 4 A married couple lose their lives to an Islamic State mortar round.
2014.12.20 Afghanistan Kunar 7 3 Two young girls are among seven civilians disassembled by a Religion of Peace IED.
2014.12.20 Nigeria Gwoza 50 0 Islamic extremists round up fifty - mostly elderly - innocents and massacre them at a high school.
2014.12.20 Afghanistan Jawzjan 7 4 Seven local cops are killed when Taliban ambush their check post.
2014.12.20 Iraq Tikrit 17 0 Women and children are among seventeen Iraqis executed in their homes by caliphate members.
2014.12.20 Iraq Hardan 70 0 The remains of many Yazidi victims of ISIS execution are found in a mass grave, including women and children.
2014.12.20 Iraq Madain 4 9 Terrorists detonate a bomb in a commercial district that leaves four dead.
2014.12.20 Syria Aleppo 1 0 A man is publicly beheaded by the caliphate.
2014.12.20 France Joue-les-Tours 0 3 A foreign-born Muslim attacks French police officer with a knife while shouting praises to Allah.
2014.12.20 Iraq Taji 3 12 Three Iraqis standing outside a shop are sectionalized by Mujahid bombers.
2014.12.19 Pakistan Muridke 2 0 A married couple are shot to death by the woman's conservative family for marrying without permission.
2014.12.19 Iraq Baghdad 3 7 A bomb near an industrial area kills three.
2014.12.19 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 Jihadis bomb a commercial district, killing two.
2014.12.19 Yemen Seyun 3 5 An al-Qaeda bomb produces three dead locals.
2014.12.19 Iraq Baghdad 4 9 Four patrons at a market are cut to ribbons by Islamic bombers.
2014.12.19 Afghanistan Laghman 1 6 A child is killed and six others injured from Taliban shrapnel.
2014.12.19 Pakistan Daudzai 1 0 A traffic cop is machine-gunned in the road by Jihadis on a motorcycle.
2014.12.19 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two people at a car repair shop are modularized by a Mujahid bomb blast.
2014.12.18 Iraq Nahyat al-Alam 1 0 A rival cleric is beheaded by fundamentalists on charges of 'sorcery'.
2014.12.18 Iraq Baghdad 4 6 A bombing near a mosque leaves four dead.
2014.12.18 Afghanistan Kabul 1 3 A Shahid suicide bomber kills one other person.
2014.12.18 Yemen Hodeida 18 15 Hardline Sunni suicide bombers take out eighteen Shiites.
2014.12.18 Pakistan Damadola 3 0 Three members of a security patrol are blown to bits by religious extremists.
2014.12.18 Iraq Qasreej 7 0 Seven Iraqis are reportedly blown up by a suicide bomber.
2014.12.18 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two sheikhs are kidnapped and killed by the Islamic State.
2014.12.18 Iraq Mahmoudiya 4 0 A married couple and their two children are murdered in their own home by Mujahideen gunmen.
2014.12.17 Iraq Abu Ghraib 4 5 An 8-year-old boy and his mother are among five people dismantled by a Mujahid roadside blast.
2014.12.17 Nigeria Sabon Gida Shagogo 10 0 Fulani terrorists burn down a church and kill ten villagers, including the pastor.
2014.12.17 Afghanistan Jalalabad 2 5 Two people are sectionalized by a Taliban bomb.
2014.12.17 Syria Deir al-Zor 230 0 The bodies of over two-hundred tribal victims of an ISIS execution are discovered in a mass grave.
2014.12.17 Iraq Anbar 150 0 Human rights groups report the execution of one-hundred and fifty women for refusing to be brides for caliphate Jihadis.
2014.12.17 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 10 14 A Fedayeen suicide assault on a bank leaves ten others dead.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:32:00 AM   
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1 samuel 15:3

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


(esaus grandsons nation. i.e. their own people)

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:34:55 AM   
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See? You DO know the difference between holding radical opinions and militant action!

You have trouble seeing them when they claim their religious allegiance still, but starting slow is probably appropriate for you.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:37:02 AM   
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1 samuel 15:3

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


(esaus grandsons nation. i.e. their own people)


Who is Amalek

And again, such Old Testament passages were negated by such New Testament passages such as, "Ye without sin cast the first stone" and "Turn the other cheek" etc

How many times does that have to be pointed out before leftists stop trolling such obvious disinformation

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:39:51 AM   
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See? You DO know the difference between holding radical opinions and militant action!

You have trouble seeing them when they claim their religious allegiance still, but starting slow is probably appropriate for you.


See, your attempts to obfuscate the issue with your desperate claims that other religions are just as bad still show you up as foolish

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:48:02 AM   
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Such a clown.

You ridiculed the notion of Christian militants. When you were shown they exist globally, you did the silly cut and paste tangent and shared militant Islamic examples, which wasn't in dispute.

Then you tried to claim that India, Northern Ireland, Norway, Central African Republic, Lebanon, Uganda, and the US were "pretty much backwater tribal regions of Bumfuck Nowhere"

But thanks for the chuckle!

And for proving that some people just want the simplistic "it's the Muslims!" answer, rather than facing global reality and actually solving real problems instead of political bogie men.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:50:50 AM   
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Who is Amalek

It's in the Bible. You know, that Christian book.

The Amalekites were a people mentioned a number of times in the book of Genesis, and considered to be Amalek's descendants.

So you won't have to read very far.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:56:06 AM   
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Such a clown.

You ridiculed the notion of Christian militants. When you were shown they exist globally, you did the silly cut and paste tangent and shared militant Islamic examples, which wasn't in dispute.

Then you tried to claim that India, Northern Ireland, Norway, Central African Republic, Lebanon, Uganda, and the US were "pretty much backwater tribal regions of Bumfuck Nowhere"

But thanks for the chuckle!

And for proving that some people just want the simplistic "it's the Muslims!" answer, rather than facing global reality and actually solving real problems instead of political bogie men.


If the term "pretty much" meant all you might have something, but it doesnt, and so you dont

What I ridicule are your trollish comparisons between Christians and Islamists

I have never written anything like "its the Muslims"

Can you ever debate without your ridiculous derails, ad hominems, straw man fallacies and your moral equivalence stupidity

Dont bother answering, its all rhetorical

The answer is abundantly obvious

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 11:57:18 AM   
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Who is Amalek

It's in the Bible. You know, that Christian book.

The Amalekites were a people mentioned a number of times in the book of Genesis, and considered to be Amalek's descendants.

So you won't have to read very far.


That was rhetorical too, you blithering idiot of a troll

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:05:41 PM   
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See? You DO know the difference between holding radical opinions and militant action!

You have trouble seeing them when they claim their religious allegiance still, but starting slow is probably appropriate for you.


See, your attempts to obfuscate the issue with your desperate claims that other religions are just as bad still show you up as foolish


I fail to see how demonstrating that terrorism does not only originate from Islam obfuscates a topic which is ostensibly about the origins of terrorism.

I don't see how citing examples is desperate.

However I do see that trying too change your mind on this is foolish, so 1 out of 3 ain't bad.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:09:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

See? You DO know the difference between holding radical opinions and militant action!

You have trouble seeing them when they claim their religious allegiance still, but starting slow is probably appropriate for you.


See, your attempts to obfuscate the issue with your desperate claims that other religions are just as bad still show you up as foolish


I fail to see how demonstrating that terrorism does not only originate from Islam obfuscates a topic which is ostensibly about the origins of terrorism.

I don't see how citing examples is desperate.

However I do see that trying too change your mind on this is foolish, so 1 out of 3 ain't bad.



Okay

Theres your biggest problem

The topic was never about the origins of terrorism

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:10:42 PM   
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1 samuel 15:3

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


(esaus grandsons nation. i.e. their own people)


Who is Amalek

And again, such Old Testament passages were negated by such New Testament passages such as, "Ye without sin cast the first stone" and "Turn the other cheek" etc

How many times does that have to be pointed out before leftists stop trolling such obvious disinformation


Maybe if you stopped cherry picking passages from the quran to paint all muslims as evil, they would stop doing the same with the bible. Now it could be that they would continue but it's worth a shot. And in the mean time maybe this will help you out. http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/01/12/paris-attack-charlie-hebdo-islamophobia/21632853/

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:14:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Staleek


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

See? You DO know the difference between holding radical opinions and militant action!

You have trouble seeing them when they claim their religious allegiance still, but starting slow is probably appropriate for you.


See, your attempts to obfuscate the issue with your desperate claims that other religions are just as bad still show you up as foolish


I fail to see how demonstrating that terrorism does not only originate from Islam obfuscates a topic which is ostensibly about the origins of terrorism.

I don't see how citing examples is desperate.

However I do see that trying too change your mind on this is foolish, so 1 out of 3 ain't bad.



Okay

Theres your biggest problem

The topic was never about the origins of terrorism

It was first by implication, the response to blasphemy and the Westerners' erroneous beliefs about what the Koran said, followed by you dismissing it out of hand, bringing us back to terrorism as the supposed required response.

So yes, derailed, but by you in the first post.

Fast work! Not to mention your off topic slam at the Times.


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According to Mustafa Akyoi, a Turkish Journalist,, "Blasphemy" is not a punishable offense as described by the Quran. I must say, it helps me to have someone versed in ISLAM who knows its history and texts -- put the actions of militants in perspective.

>The only source in Islamic law that all Muslims accept indisputably is the Quran. And, conspicuously, the Quran decrees no earthly punishment for blasphemy — or for apostasy (abandonment or renunciation of the faith), a related concept. Nor, for that matter, does the Quran command stoning, female circumcision or a ban on fine arts. All these doctrinal innovations, as it were, were brought into the literature of Islam as medieval scholars interpreted it, according to the norms of their time and milieu.

....Before all that politically motivated expansion and toughening of Shariah, though, the Quran told early Muslims, who routinely faced the mockery of their faith by pagans: “God has told you in the Book that when you hear God’s revelations disbelieved in and mocked at, do not sit with them until they enter into some other discourse; surely then you would be like them.”

Just “do not sit with them” — that is the response the Quran suggests for mockery. Not violence. Not even censorship.<



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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Your Turkish "journalist" knows nothing about Islam

quote:



Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger - Allah has cursed them in this World and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating Punishment. Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time: They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).

— Quran 33:57–61


ETA, I see the problem

You trusted a New York Times contributor for your information...


Then from there, pretty much parading your ignorance with puffed up arrogance in the hopes of accidentally appearing smart.

Better luck next time.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:14:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboyThese spasms of terrorism cry out for a conversation among Muslims about faith and tolerance. Islamic reformers could point out that the Koran prescribes no punishment at all for blasphemers besides telling others to keep their distance from them. The holy book that decrees death for blasphemy is the Bible (Leviticus 24:16).


I agree with the first part of this quote above, while I disagree with the second part. Muslims need to clean house. They need to take full responsibility for the murderous thugs among them and reform their primitive bloodthirsty ideology, but as I have proven above in post two of this thread the Koran does indeed call for the death of blasphemers (as well as for infidels btw)

There isnt nearly enough reform occurring, and there isnt near enough outrage among Muslims against against Islamists whose ideal is to shed as much blood as possible in the name of Allah

There are other ways the ideology needs to step into this century as well

Womens rights, for example. Cruel and unusual punishment for lawbreakers... Human rights generally. I see a little bit of belated lip service here and there, but there is very little if any real corrective action taking place





So maybe something like the. . I don't know. . . the enlightenment?


That guy in Egypt seems to be thinking the same thing.



The one who was just imprisoned for having atheist beliefs?



No. Al-Sisi the Egyptian President.

quote:

"I am referring here to the religious clerics. … It's inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma (Islamic world) to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!

"That thinking — I am not saying 'religion' but 'thinking' — that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the centuries, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It's antagonizing the entire world! ... All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.

"I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move … because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost — and it is being lost by our own hands."


He called for a religious revolution. And he is holding Muslims responsible for not calling out these horrific acts. And for the clerics encouraging them.

But around here as long as they are only killing and terrorizing Christians, Jews, and fire-worshipers, then that is okay. It is a peaceful religion.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:16:49 PM   
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Maybe if you stopped cherry picking passages from the quran to paint all muslims as evil, they would stop doing the same with the bible. Now it could be that they would continue but it's worth a shot. And in the mean time maybe this will help you out. http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/01/12/paris-attack-charlie-hebdo-islamophobia/21632853/


Calling my providing such quotes "cherry picking" is a mental error on your part

The premise of the thread was that such passages do not exist, therefore I am merely helping out setting the facts straight




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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:18:00 PM   
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Again, as absurd as ridiculing Christianity as non-peaceful.

There are peaceful religious folk, there are radical religious folk, and there are militant religious folk.

Including your religion.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:18:57 PM   
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Only in your tiny brain bruv.


It is unfortunate how this forum is all trolls, all the time now

It could be a great place for rational discussion


Nothing trollish about your posts eh bruv.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:19:15 PM   
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Except the ones persecuting the French Jews, of course.

I mean, there IS a reason that Jews are fleeing France and all of Europe.

Fleeing? France has the third largest Jewish population, after the US and Israel.

Additionally, according to a 2005 poll made by the Pew Research Center, there is no evidence of any specific antisemitism in France, which, according to this poll, appears to be one of the least antisemitic countries in Europe,[58] though France has the world's third largest Jewish population.[1] France is the country that has the most favourable views of Jews in Europe (82%), next to the Netherlands, and the third country with the least unfavourable views (16%) next to the UK and the Netherlands.

Between 2000 and 2009, 13,315 French Jews moved to Israel, or made aliyah, an increase compared to the previous decade (1990–1999 : 10,443) that was in the continuity of a similar increase since the 1970s.[64] A peak was reached during this period, in 2005 (2005: 2,951 Olim) but a significant proportion (between 20 and 30%) eventually came back to France.

But that's out of 600,000 in the French Jewish community.


Ahh that is so cute.

In 2013 about 3,500 Jews left France.

In 2014 about 7,000 Jews left France.

They are estimating another 10k or this year will leave.

Cute that you stopped the years in review when the exodus started.

Cute or not, little girl, it doesn't change the points above.


Have you sent a telegram to the Prime Minister of France telling him that he is all wrong about the Jewish exodus from France and the dangers it poses. I am sure that he would find that re-assuring.

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RE: Islam’s Problem With Blasphemy - 1/16/2015 12:19:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Staleek


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

See? You DO know the difference between holding radical opinions and militant action!

You have trouble seeing them when they claim their religious allegiance still, but starting slow is probably appropriate for you.


See, your attempts to obfuscate the issue with your desperate claims that other religions are just as bad still show you up as foolish


I fail to see how demonstrating that terrorism does not only originate from Islam obfuscates a topic which is ostensibly about the origins of terrorism.

I don't see how citing examples is desperate.

However I do see that trying too change your mind on this is foolish, so 1 out of 3 ain't bad.



Okay

Theres your biggest problem

The topic was never about the origins of terrorism

It was first by implication, the response to blasphemy and the Westerners' erroneous beliefs about what the Koran said, followed by you dismissing it out of hand, bringing us back to terrorism as the supposed required response.

So yes, derailed, but by you in the first post.

Fast work! Not to mention your off topic slam at the Times.


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

According to Mustafa Akyoi, a Turkish Journalist,, "Blasphemy" is not a punishable offense as described by the Quran. I must say, it helps me to have someone versed in ISLAM who knows its history and texts -- put the actions of militants in perspective.

>The only source in Islamic law that all Muslims accept indisputably is the Quran. And, conspicuously, the Quran decrees no earthly punishment for blasphemy — or for apostasy (abandonment or renunciation of the faith), a related concept. Nor, for that matter, does the Quran command stoning, female circumcision or a ban on fine arts. All these doctrinal innovations, as it were, were brought into the literature of Islam as medieval scholars interpreted it, according to the norms of their time and milieu.

....Before all that politically motivated expansion and toughening of Shariah, though, the Quran told early Muslims, who routinely faced the mockery of their faith by pagans: “God has told you in the Book that when you hear God’s revelations disbelieved in and mocked at, do not sit with them until they enter into some other discourse; surely then you would be like them.”

Just “do not sit with them” — that is the response the Quran suggests for mockery. Not violence. Not even censorship.<



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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Your Turkish "journalist" knows nothing about Islam

quote:



Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger - Allah has cursed them in this World and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating Punishment. Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time: They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).

— Quran 33:57–61


ETA, I see the problem

You trusted a New York Times contributor for your information...


Then from there, pretty much parading your ignorance with puffed up arrogance in the hopes of accidentally appearing smart.

Better luck next time.


Wow

You prove that you are REALLY stupid in this post

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