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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

If you'll note, you are.

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I thought it was an attempted vehicular homicide thread. <GRIN>

Actually my motive was not so much about guns as the knee jerk reaction many people have when, regardless of the situation they assume the police had to be wrong.

I once had a course in college entitled "Labor Unions". As you might imagine, the nature of the course was about the American unions. The creation, adaptations, and history. Including case studies on various current (at the time) problems facing unions and management. I went to a liberal college that was very politically conservative (yeah, try to understand that one....). The professor was in the unions for about thirty years, and so I figured this would be quite an interesting class to learn from. Not often in business schools do the students see and hear the perspective of things from the union side.

The professor asks everyone to take a piece of paper out and answer the following question on it: "During a dispute between a Union and the Management; whom do you tend to side with initially?" The papers were passed up to him. Nineteen votes for 'management', one for 'union'. And mine: "It depends on the circumstances, events, history, and actions between the two sides. Both sides could be right or wrong. But making a snap decision based on no actual evidence or information would mean I might be biased towards one or the other. And the side I'm initially biased to, might have one or more really good points."

Like with that class, I approach this topic in a neutral stance. The gathered information does not point to the cops failing in their duty nor being 'in the wrong'. Information is limited. That is why good police work would call for proper investigating of facts. Interviewing any eyewitnesses, observing the scene, looking for past histories of everyone involved and maybe 'gut instincts' to put a proper picture together. The whole thing should go to a trial regardless. Allows a judge and maybe a jury to decide things based on the information gathered.

Some threads had provided much in the way of information to start a discussion. This one seems really absent of information. Or at least the informaiton I've seen so far.

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I thought it was an attempted vehicular homicide thread. <GRIN>

Actually my motive was not so much about guns as the knee jerk reaction many people have when, regardless of the situation they assume the police had to be wrong.

what is interesting is your own knee jerk reaction to the situation, and so far nobody has claimed the cops were wrong.
But once again, you are claiming it is OTHER people who are knee jerking the thread
page 1 has NO ONE claiming either the cops were wrong or the girl was innocent,
lets see....page two nobody calling the cops wrong but lots of blaming the chick. and accusing the other girl of lying, but nothing about the cops being wrong.
Apart from the zimmerman honourable mention on page three again nothing against the police, only the dead 17 year old.
NOTHING close to what you are and continue to claim.

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Not according to one of the kids in the car.

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/investigations/2015/01/28/witness-to-cop-shooting-tells-her-story/22449579/

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mother-girl-shot-denver-police-seeks-separate-autopsy-28570503

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Can you read, or are you just chronically stupid, the second and tenth post on the thread was someone posting articles saying the cops were wrong....

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Can you read, or are you just chronically stupid, the second and tenth post on the thread was someone posting articles saying the cops were wrong....

I can read, QK, and those second and tenth posts only suggested doubt about the cops' story (as it's emerged so far).

It's OK to question what the police say, occasionally, I feel.

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Wow i didnt know shit grew that high
so there are not allowed to be more than one side of the story, just the cops version?
ok gotcha

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what is interesting is your own knee jerk reaction to the situation, and so far nobody has claimed the cops were wrong.
But once again, you are claiming it is OTHER people who are knee jerking the thread
page 1 has NO ONE claiming either the cops were wrong or the girl was innocent,

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So both articles that someone posted... say that the police are wrong, but thats not anyone making a comment saying the police are wrong.... Its so clear now....

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So both articles that someone posted... say that the police are wrong, but thats not anyone making a comment saying the police are wrong.... Its so clear now....

No, the citations were put forward to show, by the respective posters concerned, that *there could be doubt*. If you're arguing that suggesting there's doubt about the police's story is the same as saying, categorically, that the police's story is wrong, then I think you're guilty of a knee jerk reaction, there, QK.

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Funny. I remember PPLs posting, almost immediately, about what a racist Zimmerman was (still hasn't been proven). I remember people posting how Wilson had to be a racist (once they found out he was white).

I think it's funny when the left has to fall upon a "rush to judgment" defense (although, it's true that they're intimately familiar with the behavior).



Michael

E.T.A.: I'm pissed off. Bama never cams with me!

Or anyone else. I have lost track of how many times leftist have used the term knee jerk to describe any reaction they do not like.

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The "witness" is clearly saying the cops lied, they shot her before the guy was hit...

So... Tell me ever so smart and intelligent ......Peon... if Wrong means... Deviating from the truth or fact; erroneous..... and Lie means a false statement made with the intent to deceive...

How someone saying the cops lied... isnt them saying the cops are wrong...

Thats all I want to know.

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The "witness" is clearly saying the cops lied, they shot her before the guy was hit...

So... Tell me ever so smart and intelligent ......Peon... if Wrong means... Deviating from the truth or fact; erroneous..... and Lie means a false statement made with the intent to deceive...

How someone saying the cops lied... isnt them saying the cops are wrong...

Thats all I want to know.

The posters are citing those sources, QK. They are not claiming the words in those sources as their own. I think this is the issue that's causing you problems with your outlook, here.

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If you'll note, you are.

No, some one else did and you chimed in. Now I'm waiting for it to get along a bit more.

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The "witness" is clearly saying the cops lied, they shot her before the guy was hit...

So... Tell me ever so smart and intelligent ......Peon... if Wrong means... Deviating from the truth or fact; erroneous..... and Lie means a false statement made with the intent to deceive...

How someone saying the cops lied... isnt them saying the cops are wrong...

Thats all I want to know.

The posters are citing those sources, QK. They are not claiming the words in those sources as their own. I think this is the issue that's causing you problems with your outlook, here.

Okay sweetheart... I get it Now...

Polite just posted stories about the cops being wrong, which is someone posting about the cops being wrong... which couldnt possibly be logically thought of that poster holding that belief because no one ever posts links to back up their facts and stories...