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Lucylastic -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 11:22:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Obnoxious typical idiocy fear and hate oh and outright bullshit .....well done Bounty[:'(] I'm pretty sure that most liberals are not for legalizing sex with children, euthanasia, child pornography. What else on that list are liberals not for? I thought you didnt label all with the same brush. thats all you can find? if i had put up that using the rw in a list like that you would be screaming. Hypocrite

slvemike4u -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 12:20:20 PM)
How would you notice Lucy,what with his posting history and all ? [:D]

DesideriScuri -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 1:09:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 the folks at westboro consistently teach and act in ways contrary to what scripture and jesus teach and the overwhelming majority of churches in the country can point that out in a heartbeat and justly call into question the veracity of any inward spiritual conversion the people at westboro have had. the question is---can the muslims who are not acting in the same way as ISIS is, do the same? Yup, and they have, and it's been cited in this forum at great length. The response? You Islamaphobes call it "cherry picking." The problem has been that the Muslims decrying ISIS, et. al. have not gotten the air time that ISIS, et. al. have been getting (which story is more likely to get viewership, a Muslim cleric calling out ISIS, or ISIS's latest abuse?). We finally get to see the violent extremist Muslims being fought by non-extremist Muslims. I, for one, am happy to see it. I think the typical Muslim has finally had it, and we'll see more pushback against all the violent extremist Muslim groups going forward. Hopefully, it will result in a general reduction in tensions in the Middle East. Those carrying out atrocities always get more airtime than those not. Which is why ISIS do it. I understand completely. That's why some people don't think the majority of Muslims are opposed to the way the extremists act.

Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 1:14:04 PM)
In case we wonder why bigotry runs rampant among Islamophobic simpletons on the right who prefer gross generalizations to any kind of accurate assessment of global reality . . . quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 in case we wonder why leftists continue to support islam: [image]local://upfiles/1936645/0CD554A24FCF48E8B71D39E1223B90B7.jpg[/image]

Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 1:19:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery 1) Yes, I've already noted the spread of Islam beginning in the 7th century. Slaughtering men, women and children from Medina where it all began, throughout the Middle East, all the way to France and Spain (before the Christian crusades finally repelled them), on into Central and Southeastern Africa, Madagascar, the Balkans, India, China, Russia, the Philippines, Indonesia... quote: If 1.6 billion Muslims are after you -- that's 5 for every person in the US -- they're doing a really crappy job of it. Do you base that on the fact that they havent successfully extended their murderous conquests to the other half of the planet yet? quote: 2) Niger is a Muslim country. More Muslims fighting Muslims. I dont know why you think that Islamic militants murdering less observant Muslims is so great. Brushing that questionable assertion aside, they are massacring any remaining non-Muslims in these lands with extreme prejudice as is normal for this cult You were boasting about how Iraq had only 3% non-Muslims earlier, how do you suppose that came to be quote: 3) Israel's problem is with Arab nations, not global Islam. Thats a lie, flat out. A kosher deli was just bombed in Paris... Israel even has problems with global leftists, Islamic apologists and deniers such as yourself. Persia (or Iran) is "only" building nuclear bombs and buying missiles as fast as it can... Not a big deal, so long as you have a deranged, unreasonable hatred for the people of Israel I suppose quote: 4) ISIS and the Taliban are fighting primarily other Muslims. Primarily murdering anyone who objects to establishing strict Islamic law, and murdering every remaining infidel in the most horrific ways they can dream up, and recruiting, training, funding and equipping martyrs to send West Thats all quote: 5) Your twisted attempts at spin have back-pedaled you miles away from your original claims. Threads naturally move on, and you have yet to substantively reply to my original claims, or any of my links or posts as far as that goes. You have trollishly tried throughout to make the thread all about me because you are extremely immature and too mentally challenged to argue the facts It's horrible. The world's coming to an end. Every one of those 1.6 billion Muslims hates freedom and is plotting the overthrow of the globe. Only vigilant prophets like you see the truth while this vast liberal army secretly coddles the enemy on the road to global Sharia Law. Blood will run in the streets, and Islam will rejoice! All the Muslims fighting Muslims are just a black op to throw off the clueless liberals. You're a saint, and will go down in history as one of the few visionaries who tried fruitlessly to save our planet from total Islamic destruction. [image]http://iranpoliticsclub.net/animation-graphics/uber-cows/images/Muslim%20Cattle%20Group%20Choir.jpg[/image]

Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 1:21:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Back attacha. RUN!!!! MOOOOSSLEEMMMMMSSSSSS !!!!!! [:D] I guess if you really can't admit you might have been wrong, lashing back with a juvenile attack it the best response. After all, you wouldn't want to rise above his level, would ya? If that's your take, I really don't think you've been following this lunacy, but if you have, then you're as nutty as the squirrel.

Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 1:45:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Back attacha. RUN!!!! MOOOOSSLEEMMMMMSSSSSS !!!!!! [:D] I guess if you really can't admit you might have been wrong, lashing back with a juvenile attack it the best response. After all, you wouldn't want to rise above his level, would ya? If that's your take, I really don't think you've been following this lunacy, but if you have, then you're as nutty as the squirrel. Hilarious that this post follows yet another of your juvenile attacks

Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 2:10:12 PM)
...said Sanity while trying to think up his next spin.

Politesub53 -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 4:18:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi FFS You can make all the excuses you want. Bottom line is you fucked up. Now at this point you could have manned up and owned it, but apparently that's not how you roll. I havent made any excuses, just incase you dont get it yet, I dont believe you. Is that plain enough ?

CreativeDominant -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 6:58:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Obnoxious typical idiocy fear and hate oh and outright bullshit .....well done Bounty[:'(] I'm pretty sure that most liberals are not for legalizing sex with children, euthanasia, child pornography. What else on that list are liberals not for? I thought you didnt label all with the same brush. thats all you can find? if i had put up that using the rw in a list like that you would be screaming. Hypocrite No...I don't label all with the same brush. I do know some liberals who would be against some other things on that list. But...if you put up a list like that for conservatives, and not right wingers because they aren't necessarily the same on a forum like this where right wing is usually reserved for the far right, I'll answer which ones I'm for. So Lucy...I've already pulled three that I don't think liberals are for from the list of things that liberals are for. What others on that list are you not for?

thishereboi -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 8:18:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi FFS You can make all the excuses you want. Bottom line is you fucked up. Now at this point you could have manned up and owned it, but apparently that's not how you roll. I havent made any excuses, just incase you dont get it yet, I dont believe you. Is that plain enough ? well in that case Einstein, why don't you explain why I would quote your post and bold the part where you said what you were claiming you said? Now I realize you can be pigheaded when it comes to admitting you are wrong, but you are flying way out in left field this time.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/10/2015 9:18:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u How would you notice Lucy,what with his posting history and all ? [:D] Yes...you are the perfect example of never generalizing.

slvemike4u -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 12:32:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u How would you notice Lucy,what with his posting history and all ? [:D] Yes...you are the perfect example of never generalizing. I try not to paint all you idiots with one brush....but you guys make it so damm hard. One after the other,the same stupid shit ,day in and day out. After awhile you sort of give up,throw your hands in the ear and say fuck it....and grab the big wide brush. I really do feel bad about it,tell you what,why don't a few of you cut back on the stupid,just for s few days or so,than I can get back to attacking you all individually instead of just lumping all the idiots into one bug right wing pile [:)]

Politesub53 -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 2:59:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi FFS You can make all the excuses you want. Bottom line is you fucked up. Now at this point you could have manned up and owned it, but apparently that's not how you roll. I havent made any excuses, just incase you dont get it yet, I dont believe you. Is that plain enough ? well in that case Einstein, why don't you explain why I would quote your post and bold the part where you said what you were claiming you said? Now I realize you can be pigheaded when it comes to admitting you are wrong, but you are flying way out in left field this time. I already explained it once, re read until you finally get it.

tweakabelle -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 4:12:29 AM)
On the list that bounty44 posted allegedly detailing 'liberal' loves I was not surprised to find that I actually passionately oppose more points that I passionately advocate: I am "passionate" about: Diversity Inclusiveness Separation of Church and State (no exceptions) Womens Liberation and Equal Rights (but not depriving men of any rights that women enjoy) I am passionately against: Child pornography (needs no explanation) Legalising sex between adults and children (needs no explanation) Making secularism the only legitimate religion (I'm passionately anti making any belief system or religion the only 'legitimate' religion/belief system; see 'diversity' and 'inclusiveness' above) Denigrating Christians and Jews with no voting rights (I'm passionately against discrimination on religious grounds; see 'diversity' and 'inclusiveness' above) Protection for all kinds of pornography (See 'child pornography' above). I have opinions of various strengths about many of the other matters listed but am not passionate about them nor do I "love" them There are a number of points that are so clumsily constructed to suit an ideological position that they make no sense whatsoever - so I ignored them. For example: "Hate crime laws to punish those who believe homosexuality is wrong". This claim could only be constructed by someone who hasn't any idea of what hate crimes legislation is or what such legislation seeks to achieve. Hate crimes legislation is relevant only to the sentencing of criminals for their crimes when those crimes are found to be motivated by bigotry. They have nothing whatsoever to do with belief systems as the list wrongly asserts. All up, if this list is taken seriously, then I fail to qualify as a 'liberal', which will come as a great surprise not only to me but also to anyone familiar with my posting history. Frankly any one who thinks that liberal or leftist beliefs today are all of a single type, that this infantile collection of right wing concoctions is representative of leftist thinking has no idea what leftist thinking today is about. It is astonishing that the person who posted this nonsense thinks apparently thinks that intelligent people might take this list seriously. In that sense the list is far more revealing about the neurotic fear driven mentality of whatever moron composed it, and any one stupid enough to reproduce this nonsense and ask others to consider it seriously. Epic fail.

bounty44 -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 4:27:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle On the list that bounty44 posted allegedly detailing 'liberal' loves I was not surprised to find that I actually passionately oppose more points that I passionately advocate: I am "passionate" about: Diversity Inclusiveness Separation of Church and State (no exceptions) Womens Liberation and Equal Rights (but not depriving men of any rights that women enjoy) I am passionately against: Child pornography (needs no explanation) Legalising sex between adults and children (needs no explanation) Making secularism the only legitimate religion (I'm passionately anti making any belief system or religion the only 'legitimate' religion/belief system; see 'diversity' and 'inclusiveness' above) Denigrating Christians and Jews with no voting rights (I'm passionately against discrimination on religious grounds; see 'diversity' and 'inclusiveness' above) Protection for all kinds of pornography (See 'child pornography' above). I have opinions of various strengths about many of the other matters listed but am not passionate about them nor do I "love" them There are a number of points that are so clumsily constructed to suit an ideological position that they make no sense whatsoever - so I ignored them. For example: "Hate crime laws to punish those who believe homosexuality is wrong". This claim could only be constructed by someone who hasn't any idea of what hate crimes legislation is or what such legislation seeks to achieve. Hate crimes legislation is relevant only to the sentencing of criminals for their crimes when those crimes are found to be motivated by bigotry. They have nothing whatsoever to do with belief systems as the list wrongly asserts. All up, if this list is taken seriously, then I fail to qualify as a 'liberal', which will come as a great surprise not only to me but also to anyone familiar with my posting history. Frankly any one who thinks that liberal or leftist beliefs today are all of a single type, that this infantile collection of right wing concoctions is representative of leftist thinking has no idea what leftist thinking today is about. It is astonishing that the person who posted this nonsense thinks apparently thinks that intelligent people might take this list seriously. In that sense the list is far more revealing about the neurotic fear driven mentality of whatever moron composed it, and any one stupid enough to reproduce this nonsense and ask others to consider it seriously. Epic fail. no, no one is suggesting that all liberals tow the party line as if every political persuasion was monolithic. people are on the whole, eclectic. the simple answer then is you are not so liberal across the board as you think...

tweakabelle -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 4:33:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 the simple answer then is you are not so liberal across the board as you think... My guess is that most if not all of the liberals/lefties posting regularly here would share the positions I detailed in post 295 above. So if reality doesn't conform to your list, reality is wrong. You really ought to be embarrassed by posting such infantile nonsense. The simple answer is that your list is utterly moronic crap.

Lucylastic -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 4:51:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle On the list that bounty44 posted allegedly detailing 'liberal' loves I was not surprised to find that I actually passionately oppose more points that I passionately advocate: I am "passionate" about: Diversity Inclusiveness Separation of Church and State (no exceptions) Womens Liberation and Equal Rights (but not depriving men of any rights that women enjoy) I am passionately against: Child pornography (needs no explanation) Legalising sex between adults and children (needs no explanation) Making secularism the only legitimate religion (I'm passionately anti making any belief system or religion the only 'legitimate' religion/belief system; see 'diversity' and 'inclusiveness' above) Denigrating Christians and Jews with no voting rights (I'm passionately against discrimination on religious grounds; see 'diversity' and 'inclusiveness' above) Protection for all kinds of pornography (See 'child pornography' above). I have opinions of various strengths about many of the other matters listed but am not passionate about them nor do I "love" them There are a number of points that are so clumsily constructed to suit an ideological position that they make no sense whatsoever - so I ignored them. For example: "Hate crime laws to punish those who believe homosexuality is wrong". This claim could only be constructed by someone who hasn't any idea of what hate crimes legislation is or what such legislation seeks to achieve. Hate crimes legislation is relevant only to the sentencing of criminals for their crimes when those crimes are found to be motivated by bigotry. They have nothing whatsoever to do with belief systems as the list wrongly asserts. All up, if this list is taken seriously, then I fail to qualify as a 'liberal', which will come as a great surprise not only to me but also to anyone familiar with my posting history. Frankly any one who thinks that liberal or leftist beliefs today are all of a single type, that this infantile collection of right wing concoctions is representative of leftist thinking has no idea what leftist thinking today is about. It is astonishing that the person who posted this nonsense thinks apparently thinks that intelligent people might take this list seriously. In that sense the list is far more revealing about the neurotic fear driven mentality of whatever moron composed it, and any one stupid enough to reproduce this nonsense and ask others to consider it seriously. Epic fail. no, no one is suggesting that all liberals tow the party line as if every political persuasion was monolithic. people are on the whole, eclectic. the simple answer then is you are not so liberal across the board as you think... But that is EXACTLY what you have attempted, BADLY by posting the diarrhea you did LIBERALS believe, DO they fuck, you are as clueless as your stupid attempt. But a lot more hateful and stupid and that IS saying something. You ALWAYS use the tar brush, ALWAYS lefties believe this, lefties believe that, when its obvious your intelligence cant handle differences. For pure dipshittery, you take the biscuit.

tweakabelle -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 6:07:00 AM)
Just as the expression of bigotry tells us more about the bigots than the objects of their bile, the dipshittery as you so accurately described it actually tells us a lot more about the people who composes such lists, who distribute them and the poor fools who believe them. It is a list of right wing neuroses, cliches and fears. It reveals that they are horrified by any real separation of Church and State, that they cannot abide the thought of marriage being for all adults who love each other, that the thought of any genuine equality between men and women or blacks and whites is too much for them to contemplate, that sexual freedom for them is only for straights who share their sexual dispositions and so on. One wonders why they are so threatened by others enjoying the rights and freedoms they insist on for themselves. One wonders why they have so much invested in keeping women people of colour and queers in 'their place'. Why are they so insecure that any kind of difference, that natural human diversity is a threat to their equilibrium?

Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 6:09:09 AM)
There are two basic motivations, fear and love. Love is better, but more challenging. Fear never brings peace, but it's a quick response.

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