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Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 6:15:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Just as the expression of bigotry tells us more about the bigots than the objects of their bile, the dipshittery as you so accurately described it actually tells us a lot more about the people who composes such lists, who distribute them and the poor fools who believe them.

It is a list of right wing neuroses, cliches and fears. It reveals that they are horrified by any real separation of Church and State, that they cannot abide the thought of marriage being for all adults who love each other, that the thought of any genuine equality between men and women or blacks and whites is too much for them to contemplate, that sexual freedom for them is only for straights who share their sexual dispositions and so on.

One wonders why they are so threatened by others enjoying the rights and freedoms they insist on for themselves. One wonders why they have so much invested in keeping women people of colour and queers in 'their place'. Why are they so insecure that any kind of difference, that natural human diversity is a threat to their equilibrium?




Your own list... They, they, they. You are possibly the worst one here like that




Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 6:26:18 AM)

...responded Sanity by pointing his finger at another poster and crying "You!"




tweakabelle -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 6:47:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Just as the expression of bigotry tells us more about the bigots than the objects of their bile, the dipshittery as you so accurately described it actually tells us a lot more about the people who compose such lists, who distribute them and the poor fools who believe them.

It is a list of right wing neuroses, cliches and fears. It reveals that they are horrified by any real separation of Church and State, that they cannot abide the thought of marriage being for all adults who love each other, that the thought of any genuine equality between men and women or blacks and whites is too much for them to contemplate, that sexual freedom for them is only for straights who share their sexual dispositions and so on.

One wonders why they are so threatened by others enjoying the rights and freedoms they insist on for themselves. One wonders why they have so much invested in keeping women people of colour and queers in 'their place'. Why are they so insecure that any kind of difference, that natural human diversity is a threat to their equilibrium?




Your own list... They, they, they. You are possibly the worst one here like that

Such a wounded defensive response. Worthy of a 10 year old boy deprived of his fav toy and lashing out at whoever is nearest.

I defined the "they" in the first sentence of my post. "They" are " the people who compose such lists, who distribute them and the poor fools who believe them". If that describes you then I suggest you devote some serious thought to the questions I posed at the end of my post.

If that's not you, then there's nothing to feel so wounded or defensive about is there?




BitYakin -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 7:13:17 AM)

its all our imagination....

http://fox2now.com/2015/02/11/husband-wife-accused-of-supporting-isis-due-in-federal-court/

The indictment says the suspects funneled money and materials including military uniforms and rifle scopes to terrorist groups fighting in places like Syria and Iraq. Those terrorist groups allegedly inlcuded ISIS and Al Qaida.

Investigators say the crimes took place in 2013 and 2014.

Among the fighters that the suspects are accused of helping is a former St. Louisan who is fighting for ISIS.




Lucylastic -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 7:28:57 AM)

There were thousands of americans who gave money to buy arms from libya to help another terrorist group
whats your point?




thishereboi -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 8:49:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Marini

I wonder why we have waited this long.
{I have been wondering for a long time, and continue to wonder.}

Another question could be, what will it take for every country that is against ISIS, to do what it takes to deal with them?

Can anyone tell us what we are waiting for?

I have my own idea's on what it will "take", use your imagination.


I saw this in the paper the other day and thought it was an interesting read.

It's an interview with Jocelyne Cesari http://www.islamicstudies.harvard.edu/faculty/jocelyne-cesari/

"Q: Can the United States really carry through on a pledge to “degrade and defeat” the Islamic State through its bombing campaign?

A: It has to be done, obviously, but it’s not sufficient. They can defeat it in Iraq or Syria, but they cannot degrade it, because if this strong world vision is not addressed, it will always find ground. You might see it next in Yemen, Libya and the Sinai.

Addressing it has to be an international effort that looks at education, history, social media, Internet, and finds out how young people are getting in touch with their Islam. And the U.S. attempting to challenge jihadist discourse online is ridiculous. It doesn’t work. It has to come from young people here."

Read more here: http://www.heraldonline.com/2015/02/06/6775584_how-does-islamic-state-justify.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy





Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 9:32:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

I defined the "they" in the first sentence of my post.


Then you expanded your list to the entire "right wing" when you added, "It is a list of right wing neuroses, cliches and fears..."




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 9:33:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...responded Sanity by pointing his finger at another poster and crying "You!"


Try not to cry too much, as that is practically all you ever do in as juvenile a way as possible




Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 10:29:40 AM)

...said Sanity, in a desperate attempt to appear to have a point.




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 10:39:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...said Sanity, in a desperate attempt to appear to have a point.


Thank you for making my point




PeonForHer -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 10:48:23 AM)

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I saw this in the paper the other day and thought it was an interesting read.


It was - thanks, THB.




tweakabelle -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 1:34:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

I defined the "they" in the first sentence of my post.


Then you expanded your list to the entire "right wing" when you added, "It is a list of right wing neuroses, cliches and fears..."


Sorry wrong again.

"Right wing" in the sentence you quoted is an adjective describing the type of "neuroses, cliches and fears" I am referring to. It doesn't expand anything - quite the opposite. It specifies that the type of neuroses, cliches and fears referred to are the right wing variety and eliminates all other varieties.

Go to the back of the class. Re-read posts 299 and 303 and for your own sake ponder the questions at the end of post 299.




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 1:37:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

I defined the "they" in the first sentence of my post.


Then you expanded your list to the entire "right wing" when you added, "It is a list of right wing neuroses, cliches and fears..."


Sorry wrong again.

"Right wing" in the sentence you quoted is an adjective describing the type of "neuroses, cliches and fears" I am referring to. It doesn't expand anything - quite the opposite. It specifies that the type of neuroses, cliches and fears referred to are the right wing variety and eliminates all other varieties.



You should quit digging now




slvemike4u -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 1:42:56 PM)

I like the way you cut that quote and ignored her advice too.
Sanity,were I you(other than slitting my wrists and soaking in a tub of hot water) I wouldn't so casually dismiss the advice of others.
It's painfully obvious that you have issues,perhaps if you asked for help,nicely,people would step forward and lend a helping hand,there is no need for you to walk through life all confused and stupid.
Help is available [:)]




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 1:49:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I like the way you cut that quote and ignored her advice too.
Sanity,were I you(other than slitting my wrists and soaking in a tub of hot water) I wouldn't so casually dismiss the advice of others.
It's painfully obvious that you have issues,perhaps if you asked for help,nicely,people would step forward and lend a helping hand,there is no need for you to walk through life all confused and stupid.
Help is available [:)]


If you are trying to outclass her, you have a way to go yet [:D]




slvemike4u -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 2:00:53 PM)

Nope,wrong again.
Tweak does her thing,rather well I think.
I do mine,I'll leave it to others to decide how well,or how badly,I do that.
Save your breath though,you aren't one of the "others" I was referring to....as a matter of fact,as long as you find me objectionable than I know I'm still on the right path [;)]




Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 3:00:07 PM)

Keep trying. Even a blind squirrel gets lucky once in a while.




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 3:19:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

"Q: Can the United States really carry through on a pledge to “degrade and defeat” the Islamic State through its bombing campaign?

A: It has to be done, obviously, but it’s not sufficient.



The USA is always taking the lead against Islamists such as the Taliban, al-Qaeda, Boko Haram and ISIS etc

Muslims need to take responsibility for their medieval Jihadi problem

Own it

Put together a serious world wide organization of Muslims to take on that role instead

Quick strike forces, large armies, law enforcement, and a very public campaign to shame and severely isolate any demented asshole who insists on using bloodthirsty Koranic verses for anything other than toilet paper

Only then can Islam rightfully be referred to as "the religion of peace"




Politesub53 -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 4:23:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

no, no one is suggesting that all liberals tow the party line as if every political persuasion was monolithic. people are on the whole, eclectic.

the simple answer then is you are not so liberal across the board as you think...



Not so bruv. The really simple answer is that your post was bullshit.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/11/2015 5:55:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
The USA is always taking the lead against Islamists such as the Taliban, al-Qaeda, Boko Haram and ISIS etc
Muslims need to take responsibility for their medieval Jihadi problem
Own it
Put together a serious world wide organization of Muslims to take on that role instead
Quick strike forces, large armies, law enforcement, and a very public campaign to shame and severely isolate any demented asshole who insists on using bloodthirsty Koranic verses for anything other than toilet paper
Only then can Islam rightfully be referred to as "the religion of peace"


Maybe you missed it. I mean, it has been buried and rarely ever makes any sort of news media (serious, or otherwise), so you might have to dig a little. But, more and more Muslim are coming together to fight ISIS. It's happening already.

But, I can see how you may have missed it. How's your duodenum doing?




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