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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Contrary to the prevailing wisdom around here ,I'm far too nice a guy to want to scare the neighbors

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Have you considered moving ?
I'm not saying you should.....but it's a real bad idea to hang around wher.....oh shit

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Of course the number one threat to an American life,violence wise ,is another armed American....but why split hairs,eh ?
Unless your a child.... I've been told it's pools

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


~ FR ~

A well-educated electorate being necessary to enlightened governance, the right of the People to read and own books shall not be infringed.

Is there anyone here who would interpret that to mean that the right is limited to students pursuing coursework at recognized educational institutions, or that the right to read and own books applies only to voters, or that only the reading and ownership of books directly related to "enlightened governance" is protected?

K.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Of course the number one threat to an American life,violence wise ,is another armed American....but why split hairs,eh ?
Unless your a child.... I've been told it's pools

And I am sure you will be back with links to back that up right? Because you wouldn't spew random bullshit without some studies proving your point, right?

What a shame this guy didn't have a gun, things might have ended differently but I know that kind of thing doesn't matter. If you don't think anyone in the country needs a gun then I guess they don't.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/10/03/man-mauled-dogs-detroit/16635281/

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Interesting. What would you think might be more of a threat to an American life, violence wise, THB?

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Of course the number one threat to an American life,violence wise ,is another armed American....but why split hairs,eh ?
Unless your a child.... I've been told it's pools

And I am sure you will be back with links to back that up right? Because you wouldn't spew random bullshit without some studies proving your point, right?

What a shame this guy didn't have a gun, things might have ended differently but I know that kind of thing doesn't matter. If you don't think anyone in the country needs a gun then I guess they don't.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/10/03/man-mauled-dogs-detroit/16635281/

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Are you suggesting I can mount a working artillery piece on my lawn ?
Can that be of whatever size I can afford ?

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In a perfect world, no, people would not have to defend themselves against other people. But let's face it, there has never been a time or place that this was not necessary. I find it highly unlikely that the founding fathers did NOT envision weapons being used for personal protection against other humans and animals.

They probably didn't as you say, Aylee - but, in their position, struggling as they were to carve out a true country of their own against a foreign oppressor, with that foreign oppressor's worldview that held to a strong central power - I can't help but imagine that they saw Americans somewhat idealistically: as people who would want to protect each other, against a common enemy. It's difficult for me to picture them thinking in terms of a giant society, as the USA is today, in which Americans would want to be armed to protect themselves against other Americans - especially to be armed with lethal weapons. I mean, what's the point in carving out a country for the sake of 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' if people, as ordinary habit, go around with an instrument that's designed to take away the first of those three essential things?

I cannot help but think that, in this great and ongoing argument about guns in the USA, what I think must have been the prime virtue in the eyes of the Founding Fathers - that of the lives of Americans - has been somewhat demoted. I have a very, very strong feeling that, in their eyes, it would have been so entirely wrong that Americans should be killing each other so easily and with the instruments that make such killing so quick and efficient.

I mean, really, which group of even stupid national leaders would want this for their future country, howsoever they saw it developing, never mind the Founding Fathers?

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Are you suggesting I can mount a working artillery piece on my lawn ?
Can that be of whatever size I can afford ?

Not if it is crew-served, I think.

But I do believe that you can still own black powder cannon. I am not sure at what size it becomes a crew served weapon, of course. But since we are talking about what you can afford. . . I would not worry about it being too big for you.

Now. . . I am not sure what you local laws regarding stuff on lawns are.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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While we are asking for links....please supply me with the link wherein I said no one in the country needs a gun.
You do that,and I will search for studies supporting my assertions.
We could make this interesting....the minute you find any post of mine where I assert a need to ban and or confiscate guns,one little post...and you will have my word that I won't post on any future gun bans.
You don't find said post you come back here and admit you are just one more right wing,neo con poster,no better no worse than all the other neo con,right wing dip...er,posters here.
How about it thb,you a gambling girl ?

Perhaps not directly, but your affection for the idea is no secret.

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You do have a point, though. Ban olives, and I might just be willing to give up my AR-15. That would definitely be a fair trade.

Oh just think of it - no olives and no guns. What a beautiful world this would be.

K.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Are you suggesting I can mount a working artillery piece on my lawn ?
Can that be of whatever size I can afford ?

Not if it is crew-served, I think.

But I do believe that you can still own black powder cannon. I am not sure at what size it becomes a crew served weapon, of course. But since we are talking about what you can afford. . . I would not worry about it being too big for you.

Now. . . I am not sure what you local laws regarding stuff on lawns are.

You can have more than just black powder cannons. Up to and including modern pieces. However, there are a slew of laws that have to be complied with, including permitting requirements. Both the weapon and ammunition is usually cost prohibitive. Then there is the problem of finding a range to make it go boom for you.

Crew Served usually means that it is recommended for more than one person to operate the weapon. a 2 man crew served weapon usually means one to carry ammo and some components and the other to carry less ammo and larger components (by weight). One person can usually (dependent on the weight of the ammo and components) operate most crew served weapons. Most civil war cannons were considered crew served. realigning it after fireing was hard work.