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kinkygymfreak -> thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 12:39:37 PM)

just going to share my thoughts about islam extremists and how powerful the brainwashing they have been subjected to is.
religion is very powerful. even though they have no evidence at all that this stuff exists and science has advanced and debunked lots of religious beliefs, these people still believe it! in fact they will die for it! killing yourself for something that you have no evidence of. a fairytale that can hijack and hypnotise the human mind and drive it to the most extreme acts of "faith" this is what happens when you let religion think for you. when your education is based entirely on this bullshit. you become resistant to modern science and theories and end up stuck believing fairy tales. religion has closed the mind! it won't allow humanity to progress, we would all be stuck in the dark ages if islam ruled the world! these people that commit suicide attacks, i just wish they could see through the illusion and save themselves and others from pointless death and suffering.




Kirata -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 12:47:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kinkygymfreak

just going to share my thoughts about islam extremists and how powerful the brainwashing they have been subjected to is.
religion is very powerful. even though they have no evidence at all that this stuff exists and science has advanced and debunked lots of religious beliefs, these people still believe it! in fact they will die for it! killing yourself for something that you have no evidence of. a fairytale that can hijack and hypnotise the human mind and drive it to the most extreme acts of "faith" this is what happens when you let religion think for you. when your education is based entirely on this bullshit. you become resistant to modern science and theories and end up stuck believing fairy tales. religion has closed the mind! it won't allow humanity to progress, we would all be stuck in the dark ages if islam ruled the world! these people that commit suicide attacks, i just wish they could see through the illusion and save themselves and others from pointless death and suffering.

So which is it?

K.




DaddySatyr -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 12:49:05 PM)


You kind of went back and forth between "Islam" and "Religion"; almost, it seemed, using them intermittently.

I'm not sure that belief in any particular religion is what's the real danger. I think it is the particular religion in question.

While plenty of people take issue with the Christian/Jewish Bible, the facts are that nowhere in that book are believers commanded to kill non-believers. Yes, belief in God, in a "God is on our side" kind of way, is used as an excuse for killings, but nowhere ... let me state that more clearly: NOWHERE does the Bible command the faithful to kill non-believers. If memory serves, the Qu'oran commands it, forty-six different times.

I consider Islam, at it's very basic level, to be akin to Nazism because of the explicit commands for death to the infidels. Yes, there are Christians that mis-interpret the Bible but it's pretty tough to mis-interpret the calls for beheading and such that are found in the Muslim "holy" book.



Michael




kinkygymfreak -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 1:09:32 PM)

ALL any religion has ever done for humanity is to cause murder,terror,false fear,and general suffering. millions of people throughout history have had there lives cut short because of this crap.
it's sad to see but it won't ever stop! 500 years ago the catholic church instigated a centuries long campaign of terror,torture,and murder. for the crime of "witchcraft" now it's islams turn to do some damage. what will it be next?! and i agree that islam is much more hardcore than other faiths and indeed islamic countries are nothing less than dictatorships. because religion has impeded the minds ability to reason and understand. so there countries are barbaric hell holes!




DaddySatyr -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 1:13:14 PM)


Of course, you're right. I admit it.

We'll forget all about the advances that mankind made for the 1,500 years that Christianity was the dominant philosophy for the known world.



Michael

Eight posts. I think you may be the quickest to make it to my ignore list. Congratulations!






Kirata -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 1:14:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kinkygymfreak

ALL any religion has ever done for humanity is to cause murder,terror,false fear,and general suffering.

Okay, we're done here.

K.





cloudboy -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 1:24:55 PM)


HBO is coming out with its Scientology documentary tonight, and I'm super interested to see it.

The real problem with religion is that practitioners equate its practice as scientific truth. Religion often leads to out grouping and bigotry.




kinkygymfreak -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 1:25:39 PM)

i will give you that one, fair point. christianity is generally more flexible than islam too.
but i can never accept stories about a man who could walk on water and make thousands of fish from one fish and could even return from the dead! and the bibles take on the origin of the species, the garden of eden and an evil snake tempted the first man to eat the fruit from the tree knowledge lol wtf man!!




dcnovice -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 1:44:41 PM)

OP:

Thanks for sharing.




NorthernGent -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 2:09:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kinkygymfreak

ALL any religion has ever done for humanity is to cause murder,terror,false fear,and general suffering.



Except the rule of law as we know it is a direct result of the christian principle that you and I have a duty to God to not harm the person or property of oneself or another. That's not a bad idea.

Also, were it not for the Church of England we wouldn't be the people we are, and it follows the United States would more than likely be a very different country to the one you know.




DesideriScuri -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 2:12:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kinkygymfreak
ALL any religion has ever done for humanity is to cause murder,terror,false fear,and general suffering. millions of people throughout history have had there lives cut short because of this crap.


That's it? Nothing else? No one has ever relied on their faith to get them through anything? Never ever?

And you say religion brainwashes. <snort>




bounty44 -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 2:21:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kinkygymfreak

ALL any religion has ever done for humanity is to cause murder,terror,false fear,and general suffering. millions of people throughout history have had there lives cut short because of this crap.
it's sad to see but it won't ever stop! 500 years ago the catholic church instigated a centuries long campaign of terror,torture,and murder. for the crime of "witchcraft" now it's islams turn to do some damage. what will it be next?! and i agree that islam is much more hardcore than other faiths and indeed islamic countries are nothing less than dictatorships. because religion has impeded the minds ability to reason and understand. so there countries are barbaric hell holes!


I mean this gently, I hope someday you will be able to look back on that statement and realize how wrong you were.




kinkygymfreak -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 2:31:28 PM)

faith has done good things yes, but it is outweighed by the bad things.
and with regards to the comment about brainwashing with a little snort at the end, yes i have a drug problem that i really did not want or intend to end up with and i am getting help from na.
but then i never claimed that i was holy or perfect. i am just human with lots of weaknesses and personality defects.
and i have one almighty addictive personality that will kill me soon.




kinkygymfreak -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 2:47:57 PM)

i don't think i am wrong. take the middle east for example a warzone since the crusades! and still is today. thanks to religion.
the world has always been divided because of religion. it is not wrong to assume religion is evil.




kinkygymfreak -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 2:50:55 PM)

excellent point. and many people do live in peace and practice there faith.
it's when different faiths and factions clash that the shit hits the fan.




kinkygymfreak -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 3:03:16 PM)

i noticed what you support,
help for the truly needy. define truly needy? a person eats well has a roof over his head, but suffers terribly inside with mental illness is just as needy as someone without food.
personal responsibility, again this is assuming that the individual has no mental ill health or emotional problems. in which case this will lead to lack of responsibility and often self destruction. it is ok to say stuff like that when you have not had to deal with these things.but not everyone is the same as you.




BamaD -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 3:27:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kinkygymfreak

i don't think i am wrong. take the middle east for example a warzone since the crusades! and still is today. thanks to religion.
the world has always been divided because of religion. it is not wrong to assume religion is evil.

If you thought your were wrong you would say something different.




GoddessManko -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 3:34:23 PM)

Religion is a tool. Tools are neither good or bad. It's use depends on the wielder.




kinkygymfreak -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 3:39:49 PM)

true, very true. karl marx's statement "religion is opium for the people" is quite right. it is a tool one can use to support themselves or equally makes an excellent excuse for inhumanity!




Kirata -> RE: thoughts on the power of religion (3/29/2015 3:41:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

Religion is a tool. Tools are neither good or bad. It's use depends on the wielder.

I think somebody just wants an audience for his bitch and moan act.

K.




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