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How is that some view those problems as belonging to one or the other political party?

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Amusing that Republicans in Kansas think the poor is a bigger drain on their resources than wealthy corporations that demand everything from reduction in taxes, to prime real estate to build upon. If a wealth person shows up, Republicans will kneel down to suck their cock, but if anyone else has a problem, 'fuck 'em'.
I saw this story last night and thought it just sounded absolutely silly. The ATM cards are limited to $25/day in charges. Most people shop by the week rather than the day. Poor people working 40 hours/week at minimal wage now have to trudge off to the market on their way home to handle the food purchases. Its like Republicans wish to give the wealthy every convenience but be an absolute dick to the poor. Because we all know that being financially poor is such an easy thing to handle....
Yet per many sources, each of these ATM cards charge a fee of $0.85 after the first transaction. So that is six days financial institutions are gaining $0.85 of the poor. In Kansas (per most sources) place the poor at over 15,500 in the last few moments. That's $0.85 per card holder each day. That Republicans want to keep the poor from gaming the system is silly compared to how easily the wealthy do it already.
The Republicans at state and federal levels have been going out of their way to earn bad press. In a time they should be trying to minimize the damages, they are showing they still dont understand the concept of 'running good government'.

Placing limitations on where and for what government subsidies may be used for is a reasonable stipulation and is routinely found in State regulations all around the country. And limiting how much CASH a person can withdraw from a government debit card while placing few limits on PURCHASES made with the debit card is not unusual at all. It isn't a Republican thing, it is a governmental micro management thing.
I'd say $25 a day is low but the limitation concept is valid. The last time I was forced to use an EBT card (drawing unemployment compensation from Illinois) the cash out limit was $100 a day. But no limit on making purchases. And, the Illinois EBT cad was blocked from being used at those third party ATMs you find in casinos and convenience stores. But you could still do debit card purchases at convenience stores.
Move along, these aren't the Republican droids you are looking for.

It doesn't matter that KS will be in the majority in passing a limitation on the usage of EBT cards. It doesn't matter that the limitations are, pretty much, the same as the Federal requirements (+cruise ships). It only matters that it was a Republicans passing it, and something could be written mocking them. That's it.

Let's ignore the rest of it....let's ignore the tax cutting, the deficit shortfall,the cuts to education and other services.
It's a republican gov.and a republican led statehouse,so let's ignore all of that,
LOL

Start a thread about it, Mike. This thread was about the legislation that is being passed, regarding limitations to the use of EBT cards. That has nothing to do with tax cutting, deficit shortfalls, or cuts to anything else.
Apparently, you forgot about that.

Bullshit DS,it's called thread drift
No need to start a new thread,it's all patches of the same quilt.

Gotcha. So, the fact that the KS GOP is being mocked because they are adding cruise ship use to the list of Federal prohibitions that KS EBT receivers can use EBT is okay because of other things? Seriously?

That Republican Legislatures of Kansas needs to clarify where the cards can be used is being mocked. Since from the OP, its asked 'Does Kansas have a port city with cruise ships'? Anyone that knows the state of Kansas, also knows the state is not tied directly to the ocean. Directly with a port city, or by river.

Rather than saying it cant be used on cruise ships to state "This card can only be used within the confines of the State of Kansas". How difficult was that to understand and release? Apparently to much for the dimwitted Republicans in Kansas....

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That Republican Legislatures of Kansas needs to clarify where the cards can be used is being mocked. Since from the OP, its asked 'Does Kansas have a port city with cruise ships'? Anyone that knows the state of Kansas, also knows the state is not tied directly to the ocean. Directly with a port city, or by river.
Rather than saying it cant be used on cruise ships to state "This card can only be used within the confines of the State of Kansas". How difficult was that to understand and release? Apparently to much for the dimwitted Republicans in Kansas....

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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Amusing that Republicans in Kansas think the poor is a bigger drain on their resources than wealthy corporations that demand everything from reduction in taxes, to prime real estate to build upon. If a wealth person shows up, Republicans will kneel down to suck their cock, but if anyone else has a problem, 'fuck 'em'.
I saw this story last night and thought it just sounded absolutely silly. The ATM cards are limited to $25/day in charges. Most people shop by the week rather than the day. Poor people working 40 hours/week at minimal wage now have to trudge off to the market on their way home to handle the food purchases. Its like Republicans wish to give the wealthy every convenience but be an absolute dick to the poor. Because we all know that being financially poor is such an easy thing to handle....
Yet per many sources, each of these ATM cards charge a fee of $0.85 after the first transaction. So that is six days financial institutions are gaining $0.85 of the poor. In Kansas (per most sources) place the poor at over 15,500 in the last few moments. That's $0.85 per card holder each day. That Republicans want to keep the poor from gaming the system is silly compared to how easily the wealthy do it already.
The Republicans at state and federal levels have been going out of their way to earn bad press. In a time they should be trying to minimize the damages, they are showing they still dont understand the concept of 'running good government'.

Placing limitations on where and for what government subsidies may be used for is a reasonable stipulation and is routinely found in State regulations all around the country. And limiting how much CASH a person can withdraw from a government debit card while placing few limits on PURCHASES made with the debit card is not unusual at all. It isn't a Republican thing, it is a governmental micro management thing.
I'd say $25 a day is low but the limitation concept is valid. The last time I was forced to use an EBT card (drawing unemployment compensation from Illinois) the cash out limit was $100 a day. But no limit on making purchases. And, the Illinois EBT cad was blocked from being used at those third party ATMs you find in casinos and convenience stores. But you could still do debit card purchases at convenience stores.
Move along, these aren't the Republican droids you are looking for.

It doesn't matter that KS will be in the majority in passing a limitation on the usage of EBT cards. It doesn't matter that the limitations are, pretty much, the same as the Federal requirements (+cruise ships). It only matters that it was a Republicans passing it, and something could be written mocking them. That's it.

Let's ignore the rest of it....let's ignore the tax cutting, the deficit shortfall,the cuts to education and other services.
It's a republican gov.and a republican led statehouse,so let's ignore all of that,
LOL

Start a thread about it, Mike. This thread was about the legislation that is being passed, regarding limitations to the use of EBT cards. That has nothing to do with tax cutting, deficit shortfalls, or cuts to anything else.
Apparently, you forgot about that.

Bullshit DS,it's called thread drift
No need to start a new thread,it's all patches of the same quilt.

Gotcha. So, the fact that the KS GOP is being mocked because they are adding cruise ship use to the list of Federal prohibitions that KS EBT receivers can use EBT is okay because of other things? Seriously?

That Republican Legislatures of Kansas needs to clarify where the cards can be used is being mocked. Since from the OP, its asked 'Does Kansas have a port city with cruise ships'? Anyone that knows the state of Kansas, also knows the state is not tied directly to the ocean. Directly with a port city, or by river.

Rather than saying it cant be used on cruise ships to state "This card can only be used within the confines of the State of Kansas". How difficult was that to understand and release? Apparently to much for the dimwitted Republicans in Kansas....

That Kansas river, Missouri river as well as the riverboat trade and casinos must have been imaginary when I lived there. As well as the Arabia.

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you are mistaken about the purpose of snap. Snap is a welfare program for agribiz. Take a little time and research how food stamps came into being.Find out who lobbied for it and why they are administered by the dept of ag and not hew.
The politicians who work for these punks have all read "the prince". The middle class is told the poor are paracites. Since middle class morons would like to move up economically it is understandable that they would pick the side of the bread with the butter on it and buy into the "poor are parasites".
You are mistaken about the tparty...Do you really think agribiz will allow those individuals to kill the goose that lays the golden egg?

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We are talking about the real cruise ships of the world, not some tug in the middle of no where. Like comparing Fox Woods casinos to those in Las Vegas.

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What we are really talking about is a mean, viciously vindictive attitude that is all about punishing the less well off for their misfortune.

The amounts involved here are trivial, the application of the law will only affect the marginalised, the savings to the Budget non-existent, the so-called problem the legislation seeks to 'solve' is miniscule and virtually no one will be better off for all the time money energy and effort put into drafting passing and applying the legislation. To say the least, it is ironic that the self appointed priests of small government and reduction of State regulation are those increasing the level of State micro management of the marginalised.

There appears to me to be no other purpose to this legislation other than further punishing the less well off for the crime of being less well off, ie for existing and daring to claim their entitlements under the welfare program that those same people paid into when they were fortunate enough to have employment. A far better approach would be to devote the time energy and money wasted here towards creating jobs for the unemployed.

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If tax dollars can stop being wasted on fraud, people that actually need help will not only be more likely to get it, but hopefully also able to get more of it.

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Well, one could start at corporate welfare then. That being the largest fraud.

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Yeah, idealistically, yes. As a practical matter, consider the Reagan Revolution. Politically, no.

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I would be very interested in just how the economics of chasing pennys and dollars with the same energy pays more dividend than placing all energy in chasing the dollars...the one with the best roi?

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The Reagan revolution had nothing to do with Reagan. Reagan was a talking dildo. He is unimportant to the reality at hand.

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The Reagan revolution had nothing to do with Reagan. Reagan was a talking dildo. He is unimportant to the reality at hand.

And yet you seem unable to stop yourself from bringing him up in your posts. Perhaps it's the thought of him that keeps you dancing