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RE: Cruise ships in Kansas? - 4/10/2015 8:40:58 AM

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If tax dollars can stop being wasted on fraud, people that actually need help will not only be more likely to get it, but hopefully also able to get more of it.

Than you should criminally prosecute the fraudolent recipients, what do have the other majority done to deserve more obstacles?
I don't know how it works but if you can withdrow cash with it any limitation on where to spend them is useless, just publicity. The only thing is everybody will pay more commissions from the ATM and those money will go to bankers instead of the people that actually need it. By the way those who need it wont get more, less money will be spent if there are less recipients... but this won't bring more money to bankers... probably that's the reason why this policy does not spot frauds and won't really prevent improper use of the money.

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RE: Cruise ships in Kansas? - 4/10/2015 9:15:06 AM

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I have removed a couple post that went too far for even a feisty section. If grossness and talking about the diseased condition of some members was the intent, then you have proven something but it sure isn't fit for the forum. It loses all comedic aspects when it is a string of anything gross you can think of, said about another.

Temper it please.

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RE: Cruise ships in Kansas? - 4/10/2015 10:03:46 AM

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Interesting read (imho) from the Washington Post:

The rich get government handouts just like the poor. Here are 10 of them.

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RE: Cruise ships in Kansas? - 4/10/2015 10:11:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: eulero83

quote:

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If tax dollars can stop being wasted on fraud, people that actually need help will not only be more likely to get it, but hopefully also able to get more of it.

Than you should criminally prosecute the fraudolent recipients, what do have the other majority done to deserve more obstacles?
I don't know how it works but if you can withdrow cash with it any limitation on where to spend them is useless, just publicity. The only thing is everybody will pay more commissions from the ATM and those money will go to bankers instead of the people that actually need it. By the way those who need it wont get more, less money will be spent if there are less recipients... but this won't bring more money to bankers... probably that's the reason why this policy does not spot frauds and won't really prevent improper use of the money.

I've haven't had cash assistance from the government since I was on unemployment in the late 90s, so I really don't know how that works now. A $25 per day limit does seem restrictive when that money is supposed to help towards rent and other living expenses.

Several stores here in Florida have been raided lately, for food stamp fraud. This, along with cases of identity theft to receive benefits in the first place, are the biggest issues.

http://tbo.com/news/crime/lakeland-market-owner-gets-prison-for-food-stamp-fraud-20150407/

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RE: Cruise ships in Kansas? - 4/10/2015 2:05:06 PM

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If tax dollars can stop being wasted on fraud, people that actually need help will not only be more likely to get it, but hopefully also able to get more of it.

Than you should criminally prosecute the fraudolent recipients, what do have the other majority done to deserve more obstacles?
I don't know how it works but if you can withdrow cash with it any limitation on where to spend them is useless, just publicity. The only thing is everybody will pay more commissions from the ATM and those money will go to bankers instead of the people that actually need it. By the way those who need it wont get more, less money will be spent if there are less recipients... but this won't bring more money to bankers... probably that's the reason why this policy does not spot frauds and won't really prevent improper use of the money.

I've haven't had cash assistance from the government since I was on unemployment in the late 90s, so I really don't know how that works now. A $25 per day limit does seem restrictive when that money is supposed to help towards rent and other living expenses.

Several stores here in Florida have been raided lately, for food stamp fraud. This, along with cases of identity theft to receive benefits in the first place, are the biggest issues.

http://tbo.com/news/crime/lakeland-market-owner-gets-prison-for-food-stamp-fraud-20150407/

Sorry I wrote it badly I didn't mean they are not prosecuted if found, what I mean is it's those laws are already in place, this new policy do not improve them in any way in that purpouse. I was in a bit of hurry when I wrote it.
To me other than increasing the costs of withdrowal it just create a strawman that can be useful for later political propaganda, I head this checks have a value around 200$ a month so it's just not possible to pay a cruise with them, so why barring them, to imply welfare recipients have fancy lives even if it's not true.

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