DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: tj444 as a taxpayer, which would you prefer- to pay for an abortion or to pay for 18 or so years for the mother and child to be on social assistance, medical and all the other costs that go along with it? Only poor people have abortions? quote:
and since you talk about consensual sex, where is the daddy's responsibility in all this? why is it that too many men dont want to use condoms but then run when.. opps.. she tells him the wonderful news.. women dont usually get preggers all on their own, after all.. You are absolutely correct that it takes two to tango, so to speak. Where is the father's responsibility? Uh, to help out the mother. Duh. Should the baby daddy help pay for the abortion? IMO, yes. Should the baby daddy help pay for all the necessary pre- and post- medical care? IMO, yes. So, for all you folks out there that are oblivious to what I think, any male and female duo who aren't ready to be parents should really consider not having sexual intercourse, as not having sex is the only way to prevent pregnancy. Better? No, I expect some rich people have abortions too, but if they are rich then they likely have less of them as they can afford the cost of kids.. But you evaded answering my question.. If a person can't handle bringing a child into the world and raising it, then that person should not be doing thing things that bring a child into the world. If you (none of the "you's" in this paragraph are specific to you, but are used in general) can't responsibly deal with the consequences of your actions, you shouldn't be taking those actions. I agree that one responsible way to deal with a pregnancy is to abort it, but if you can't pay for an abortion, you are relying on other people to pay for it, that's not quite as responsible of an option. And, since you are relying on others to pay for your abortion, why not rely on those people who are choosing to help you pay (people who donate to Planned Parenthood, etc.), and not those who are being forced to pay (taxpayers)? quote:
as far as your suggestion that people not have sex if they arent ready to be parents.. thats like saying if you dont want to get into a car accident then you shouldnt drive.. its pretty unrealistic.. It's not unrealistic. People make the decision every single day that driving somewhere is more important than risking getting into an accident. What happens if those people get into an accident? They pay up. Maybe we should have "pregnancy insurance" for everyone who is sexually active? Once you're sterile, you no longer have to buy it because you no longer are a risk to get pregnant (female), or to get someone else pregnant (male). You can exchange insurance information before having sex with someone, just in case there is an unwanted pregnancy. Both insurances will be used to pay for pregnancy or termination of that pregnancy in cases where the sex was consensual. Part of non-consensual sex investigations will be collection of the aggressor's insurance information, so that only one insurance will be charged for the results of that intercourse. Obviously, there will be fines for those who have intercourse without proper insurance (if they're caught). Are you seriously attempting to tell me that it's not possible to go without having sex until you're ready to have kids?
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What I support: - A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
- Personal Responsibility
- Help for the truly needy
- Limited Government
- Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
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