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slvemike4u -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 8:30:41 PM)
No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ?

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 8:38:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just can't let my position stand as I declare it I know you are trying to be funny here and meant no real harm,but the fact of the matter is that ,my actual position is consistently caricatured by you and your buddies. Give me a good reason for not putting an end to catch and release.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 9:00:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? Yeah, I do. I am a right-leaning conservative who recognizes political reality is made up of people from all walks of life and who feels that you just can't dig in my pocket to be good to others. I am a Christian who believes in Christ and God and yet believes that you can't force faith on a captive audience. Public schools are just that...Public. They're not a church. While I believe that a Christmas program can have carols in it, I also believe that such a program is better left to the church. While I believe that no one has the right to deny needed food, shelter, medical care or employment based on religious belief, I do believe that a person has a right to turn down business that has nothing to do with need and everything to do with wants. I personally believe there are better options than abortion. But I'm a man and will never have to make that choice. Therefore, I believe that abortion is up to the woman who carries the baby. However, the idea that it is a heartrending decision for each and every woman who chooses to do so is laughable. Maybe in cases of rape...or incest...or health of the mother or child...but the 3rd one? 4th one? 5th one? Maybe not so much. And let's be honest...for some, an abortion is a way of ridding oneself of something that they see as an inconvenience. And that's reality, Mike. I think the federal income tax has become nothing more than a way to divest hard-working people of their money in order to grow government. I do not see ANY reason why anyone should ever have to give up more than percentage they do now...in fact, I favor the Fair Tax. But, I also know that many programs the government runs are necessary. And to do so, I think that closing loopholes that allows corporations to avoid paying at a fair corporate rate needs to be done.

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 9:14:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be?

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 9:20:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? Do you or do you not favor catch and release? Do you or do you not favor enforcing the law against both illegals and employers.

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 9:22:19 PM)
FR When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this. When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.

JVoV -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 9:38:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD FR When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this. When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government. And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options.

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 9:53:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD FR When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this. When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government. And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options. Conservatives use government as last resort. Liberals try the government option for twenty or thirty years then try another government solution.

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/26/2015 9:57:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? Investigating illegals to determine on a case by case basis if they have committed any crimes here requires more money and a bigger government apparatus that just sending illegals home.

thishereboi -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 4:45:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just can't let my position stand as I declare it I know you are trying to be funny here and meant no real harm,but the fact of the matter is that ,my actual position is consistently caricatured by you and your buddies. No worse than mine is caricatured by you and yours. Your position needs no such caricaturing .....you are extreme without any one else taking you there [:-] Coming from you, this is priceless [>:]

slvemike4u -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 12:17:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be? No,no,no....I gave three positions and asked to hear three of yours....till I get that I feel no need nor compulsion to restate my views. But your hypothetical sucks,were there no second there probably wouldn't be so many guns in so many hands.....so there would be no need for me to have a"position"[:)]

slvemike4u -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 12:21:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just can't let my position stand as I declare it I know you are trying to be funny here and meant no real harm,but the fact of the matter is that ,my actual position is consistently caricatured by you and your buddies. No worse than mine is caricatured by you and yours. Your position needs no such caricaturing .....you are extreme without any one else taking you there [:-] Coming from you, this is priceless [>:] Thanks for your contribution......troll

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 2:29:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be? No,no,no....I gave three positions and asked to hear three of yours....till I get that I feel no need nor compulsion to restate my views. But your hypothetical sucks,were there no second there probably wouldn't be so many guns in so many hands.....so there would be no need for me to have a"position"[:)] First To say my positions are extreme means you are so far out in left feild you bump into the hot dog venders. I have stated my positions. A. Enforce the law on both the employers and the illegals. Path to citizenship, get into the end of the line and do it legal. If they want some kind of "fast track" make them join the military in a combat arms unit. infantry, armor, artillery. Do not give them any advantage over people who have followed the rules, if you do you destroy the system, no one will have a reason to follow the rules. B Back ground checks, make them tighter and include mental health info. C We knew that government run health care was bad and at least avoided single payer. Every one of these is as much a compromise as any "compromise" you claim. D I will reword my question if we could repeal the second what would you want to do? Your positions were not compromises, they were all "I wanted more but this is all we could get"

Politesub53 -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 4:17:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD FR When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this. When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government. Fucking bullshit.

slvemike4u -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 4:56:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be? No,no,no....I gave three positions and asked to hear three of yours....till I get that I feel no need nor compulsion to restate my views. But your hypothetical sucks,were there no second there probably wouldn't be so many guns in so many hands.....so there would be no need for me to have a"position"[:)] First To say my positions are extreme means you are so far out in left feild you bump into the hot dog venders. I have stated my positions. A. Enforce the law on both the employers and the illegals. Path to citizenship, get into the end of the line and do it legal. If they want some kind of "fast track" make them join the military in a combat arms unit. infantry, armor, artillery. Do not give them any advantage over people who have followed the rules, if you do you destroy the system, no one will have a reason to follow the rules. B Back ground checks, make them tighter and include mental health info. C We knew that government run health care was bad and at least avoided single payer. Every one of these is as much a compromise as any "compromise" you claim. D I will reword my question if we could repeal the second what would you want to do? Your positions were not compromises, they were all "I wanted more but this is all we could get" Which ,by definition<is a compromise. The fact that you do not understand the definition of "compromise" is enough evidence to convince me there is no further sense in replying to,or addressing any future posts you might make. I'm sorry Bama,for all I know you are a nice guy,you just aren't all that bright. So from my end I'm done,one can not have a foot race with a man with no legs.

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 4:58:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u No in truth I an a left leaning liberal who recognizes political reality. For instance< know the second is being amended,so my views tend to stay in the sphere of "what can we do under current conditions: I know in order to get a path to citizenship for illegals currently here we will need to compromise on which illegals actually qualify while prosecuting the rest. I know single payer was not politically feasible,so we had to settle for the half measure we got. Care to match my three examples with some of your own compromise positions ? For instance if the 2nd didn't exist what would your solution be? No,no,no....I gave three positions and asked to hear three of yours....till I get that I feel no need nor compulsion to restate my views. But your hypothetical sucks,were there no second there probably wouldn't be so many guns in so many hands.....so there would be no need for me to have a"position"[:)] First To say my positions are extreme means you are so far out in left feild you bump into the hot dog venders. I have stated my positions. A. Enforce the law on both the employers and the illegals. Path to citizenship, get into the end of the line and do it legal. If they want some kind of "fast track" make them join the military in a combat arms unit. infantry, armor, artillery. Do not give them any advantage over people who have followed the rules, if you do you destroy the system, no one will have a reason to follow the rules. B Back ground checks, make them tighter and include mental health info. C We knew that government run health care was bad and at least avoided single payer. Every one of these is as much a compromise as any "compromise" you claim. D I will reword my question if we could repeal the second what would you want to do? Your positions were not compromises, they were all "I wanted more but this is all we could get" Which ,by definition<is a compromise. The fact that you do not understand the definition of "compromise" is enough evidence to convince me there is no further sense in replying to,or addressing any future posts you might make. I'm sorry Bama,for all I know you are a nice guy,you just aren't all that bright. So from my end I'm done,one can not have a foot race with a man with no legs. Then every one of my positions is a compromise. And once again you have to resort to insults, a sure sign of insecurity, par for the course with you. You keep promising not to waste my time and then you back out every time.

slvemike4u -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 5:07:03 PM)
Breaking my own,just stated rule.....if you feel it's an insult for me to point out that you failed to grasp the very meaning of a compromise.....than sue your fucking school system,not my fault you were improperly educated. But ,pray tell,what did you feel compromised entailed ?

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 5:12:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Breaking my own,just stated rule.....if you feel it's an insult for me to point out that you failed to grasp the very meaning of a compromise.....than sue your fucking school system,not my fault you were improperly educated. But ,pray tell,what did you feel compromised entailed ? Each side gets something. What you call a compromise is when you don't get everything you want. Pray tell can you see the difference. I feel like you are trying (futilely I might add) to claim an air of superiority. Also you don't understand the difference between a claim and a rule. You claimed that you would not talk to me again. If you didn't talk to anyone you had made that claim about you wouldn't show up here anymore. Pray tell can you tell the difference between a claim and a rule?

Moderator3 -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 5:24:12 PM)
I guess it is time for some changes around here. It is an ugly feeling when you have to take moderator action against adults, because so many will push as far as they can push and force staff to go to places they don't care to go to. I don't want to hear I'm sorry in my email box. I want to see it out here where it matters.

BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 5:41:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moderator3 I guess it is time for some changes around here. It is an ugly feeling when you have to take moderator action against adults, because so many will push as far as they can push and force staff to go to places they don't care to go to. I don't want to hear I'm sorry in my email box. I want to see it out here where it matters. Don't worry, since he can't engage in a civil conversation I am putting him on hide.

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