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PeonForHer -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/27/2015 6:04:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


Fucking bullshit.



Nobody in the English-speaking world uses the terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' like Americans, PS. I know: it's enough to cause a migraine;




mnottertail -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 3:56:19 AM)


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it would seem to me that those who knowingly hire illegals constantly could (or should be) tried under rico.



Interesting point. I can't see it being a RICO issue just for hiring an undocumented worker. But, if it could be shown that the business owner was participating, even as the end user, of human trafficking; that might be grounds for seizure of the whole business and all assets under RICO.


Hiring illegals means you do not pay taxes on them which is defrauding the government. Hence, RICO. [:D]


Defrauding the government is not necessarily racketeering. And hiring a few undocumented workers might not be organized crime.
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act


Naa, RICO wouldn't kick in unless you could prove an organized crime ring was involved.

But RICO gives them a way to stick it to business men while giving illegals a pass. After all giving the illegals a pass is what immigration reform is all about.



Uh, I dont want you to keep running around all unknowing like. Employing them is a criminal matter, being one is a civil matter. Your boys wrote the law.

Do you attack the disease or the symptom? If you can cure the disease.........




thishereboi -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 5:06:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


Fucking bullshit.



Nobody in the English-speaking world uses the terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' like Americans, PS. I know: it's enough to cause a migraine;



That must make it very difficult for the bigots who can't have a conversation about anything without first determining how it fits with the left vs right bullshit they love to drag into everything they do.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 5:59:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options.

Conservatives use government as last resort.
Liberals try the government option for twenty or thirty years then try another government solution.



The reason CONservatives use the federal Government as last resort, is so there's over 50 variations of the so-called "solution" with accompanying variations of CONfusing loopholes so that the problem continues for the people least likely to be able to pay for the over-priced solution, and the Real constituents of conservatives continue to profit from the problem, and the middle class gets told all they have to do is work harder to fix the problem. (don't forget to wear your flag pin while you do that, BTW.)

Liberals want ONE uniform nationwide government solution to the problem for the middle class and the poor, without the CONfusion, loopholes, and the profit centers the CONservatives like. WHY? Because the private sector has proven it will never affect the complete solution or a solution at all without profits being first priority over people.










Kirata -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 6:07:58 AM)


I will allways be a a knight, instead of a prince.

Did you by any chance attend the University of West Florida?

K.





BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 6:27:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options.

Conservatives use government as last resort.
Liberals try the government option for twenty or thirty years then try another government solution.



The reason CONservatives use the federal Government as last resort, is so there's over 50 variations of the so-called "solution" with accompanying variations of CONfusing loopholes so that the problem continues for the people least likely to be able to pay for the over-priced solution, and the Real constituents of conservatives continue to profit from the problem, and the middle class gets told all they have to do is work harder to fix the problem. (don't forget to wear your flag pin while you do that, BTW.)

Liberals want ONE uniform nationwide government solution to the problem for the middle class and the poor, without the CONfusion, loopholes, and the profit centers the CONservatives like. WHY? Because the private sector has proven it will never affect the complete solution or a solution at all without profits being first priority over people.








The idea that conservatives want to avoid helping people is a key excuse for insisting on a government solution to any problem. It isn't true but what does that have to do with ideology? BTW they also look to state or local government to solve more localized problems so the uniformity across the nation argument is bogus justification for what they already wanted to do.




PeonForHer -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 8:18:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


Fucking bullshit.



Nobody in the English-speaking world uses the terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' like Americans, PS. I know: it's enough to cause a migraine;



That must make it very difficult for the bigots who can't have a conversation about anything without first determining how it fits with the left vs right bullshit they love to drag into everything they do.


What it's got to do with 'bigotry' is beyond me. Still, it's always worth throwing in that word, even if it's completely irrelevant, should it help you make a dig. [:)]

As I've tried to explain to you before on various occasions, the terms 'left wing' and 'right wing' are fundamental in politics. For instance, it's impossible to imagine any course in politics at even the most junior level that doesn't use them because they're so central to just about any given topic later in that course. Certainly it's been true of any course I've ever done. It would be pretty much like trying to do a maths course without ever using the terms 'plus' or 'minus'.

I'm sorry that the terms upset you, but you really will just have to get used to them and what they imply regarding your own political worldview, THB.








Sanity -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 10:00:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


Fucking bullshit.



Nobody in the English-speaking world uses the terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' like Americans, PS. I know: it's enough to cause a migraine;



That must make it very difficult for the bigots who can't have a conversation about anything without first determining how it fits with the left vs right bullshit they love to drag into everything they do.


What it's got to do with 'bigotry' is beyond me. Still, it's always worth throwing in that word, even if it's completely irrelevant, should it help you make a dig. [:)]

As I've tried to explain to you before on various occasions, the terms 'left wing' and 'right wing' are fundamental in politics. For instance, it's impossible to imagine any course in politics at even the most junior level that doesn't use them because they're so central to just about any given topic later in that course. Certainly it's been true of any course I've ever done. It would be pretty much like trying to do a maths course without ever using the terms 'plus' or 'minus'.

I'm sorry that the terms upset you, but you really will just have to get used to them and what they imply regarding your own political worldview, THB.







Here, I will make it simple for you

When discussing politics with Americans, liberal = left, conservative = right




mnottertail -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 11:09:26 AM)

Yes, as it is, not English language.




Sanity -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 11:24:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yes, as it is, not English language.


By your reckoning, nothing can be, except perhaps German.

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History of the English language - Wikipedia, the free ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_English_language
Wikipedia
English is a West Germanic language that originated from the Anglo-Frisian dialects and was brought to Britain by Germanic invaders or settlers from what is now called north west Germany and the Netherlands. It uses a vocabulary unlike other European languages of the same era.
‎Proto-English - ‎Old English - ‎Middle English - ‎Early Modern English




PeonForHer -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 11:47:02 AM)

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Here, I will make it simple for you

When discussing politics with Americans, liberal = left, conservative = right


Thanks. However, it's my making it simple enough for certain others that's been the problem.




mnottertail -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 12:26:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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Yes, as it is, not English language.


By your reckoning, nothing can be, except perhaps German.

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History of the English language - Wikipedia, the free ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_English_language
Wikipedia
English is a West Germanic language that originated from the Anglo-Frisian dialects and was brought to Britain by Germanic invaders or settlers from what is now called north west Germany and the Netherlands. It uses a vocabulary unlike other European languages of the same era.
‎Proto-English - ‎Old English - ‎Middle English - ‎Early Modern English




Well, it is unfortunate that it is called Germanic, because it is more Norse.

Nevertheless, in the US the usage of liberal and particularly conservative (since there are none) is not proper.




Kirata -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 1:23:53 PM)


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English is a West Germanic language...

Well, it is unfortunate that it is called Germanic, because it is more Norse.

The Scandanavian languages have a Germanic heritage too, but it is wrong in any case to characterize English as a "West Germanic" language except in its earliest stage of development. What we know as English today is essentially an amalgam of Saxon ("Old English") and Norman French, and preserves the differing conjugation rules of both origins. Thus some verbs are conjugated by changing an internal vowel: run, ran; sit, sat. Others are conjugated by changing the ending: talk, talked; walk, walked. And just to make things fun, there's no way to tell which are which.

K.





CreativeDominant -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 1:38:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yes, as it is, not English language.


By your reckoning, nothing can be, except perhaps German.

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History of the English language - Wikipedia, the free ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_English_language
Wikipedia
English is a West Germanic language that originated from the Anglo-Frisian dialects and was brought to Britain by Germanic invaders or settlers from what is now called north west Germany and the Netherlands. It uses a vocabulary unlike other European languages of the same era.
‎Proto-English - ‎Old English - ‎Middle English - ‎Early Modern English




Well, it is unfortunate that it is called Germanic, because it is more Norse.

Nevertheless, in the US the usage of liberal and particularly conservative (since there are none) is not proper.

Well...there's one. You...as you've often claimed.




Politesub53 -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 5:00:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

That must make it very difficult for the bigots who can't have a conversation about anything without first determining how it fits with the left vs right bullshit they love to drag into everything they do.



Including yourself.




slvemike4u -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 5:38:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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That must make it very difficult for the bigots who can't have a conversation about anything without first determining how it fits with the left vs right bullshit they love to drag into everything they do.



Including yourself.

Ain't that the truth.....lol




itsSIRtou -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 9:57:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options.

Conservatives use government as last resort.
Liberals try the government option for twenty or thirty years then try another government solution.



The reason CONservatives use the federal Government as last resort, is so there's over 50 variations of the so-called "solution" with accompanying variations of CONfusing loopholes so that the problem continues for the people least likely to be able to pay for the over-priced solution, and the Real constituents of conservatives continue to profit from the problem, and the middle class gets told all they have to do is work harder to fix the problem. (don't forget to wear your flag pin while you do that, BTW.)

Liberals want ONE uniform nationwide government solution to the problem for the middle class and the poor, without the CONfusion, loopholes, and the profit centers the CONservatives like. WHY? Because the private sector has proven it will never affect the complete solution or a solution at all without profits being first priority over people.








The idea that conservatives want to avoid helping people is a key excuse for insisting on a government solution to any problem. It isn't true but what does that have to do with ideology? BTW they also look to state or local government to solve more localized problems so the uniformity across the nation argument is bogus justification for what they already wanted to do.




Your response tells it all, even what you are unaware of. You know the more you splinter a law the less effective the law is to solve the problem, so Why are you agreeing with this when you know it is true? 50+ law variations in per state times 50+ law variations in per state governments = 2,500+ variations of a law and that's supposed to work on a nationwide problem??? THATS WHATS BOGUS.

The fact that every time there is an idea of a tax cut conservatives are the ONLY people holding out the whole process to give the wealthy the cut too. Higher minimum wages, child tax credits, and every financial advantage Originally purely intended for the middle-class and poor a has been held hostage by Republicans and conservatives for tax cuts for the wealthy, and you have the nerve to say I'm wrong??

If I'd had to wait for the state, county and city governments to make the Federal Civil Rights Act into law, not a damn thing would have changed in many areas of this nation, and not a damn body anywhere to enforce the law in the places that did.

The only things that conservatives will vote for is a wartime economy, deficit spending,& tax cuts for the wealthy,... In no particular order.




BamaD -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 10:00:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options.

Conservatives use government as last resort.
Liberals try the government option for twenty or thirty years then try another government solution.



The reason CONservatives use the federal Government as last resort, is so there's over 50 variations of the so-called "solution" with accompanying variations of CONfusing loopholes so that the problem continues for the people least likely to be able to pay for the over-priced solution, and the Real constituents of conservatives continue to profit from the problem, and the middle class gets told all they have to do is work harder to fix the problem. (don't forget to wear your flag pin while you do that, BTW.)

Liberals want ONE uniform nationwide government solution to the problem for the middle class and the poor, without the CONfusion, loopholes, and the profit centers the CONservatives like. WHY? Because the private sector has proven it will never affect the complete solution or a solution at all without profits being first priority over people.








The idea that conservatives want to avoid helping people is a key excuse for insisting on a government solution to any problem. It isn't true but what does that have to do with ideology? BTW they also look to state or local government to solve more localized problems so the uniformity across the nation argument is bogus justification for what they already wanted to do.




Your response tells it all, even what you are unaware of. You know the more you splinter a law the less effective the law is to solve the problem, so Why are you agreeing with this when you know it is true? 50+ law variations in per state times 50+ law variations in per state governments = 2,500+ variations of a law and that's supposed to work on a nationwide problem??? THATS WHATS BOGUS.

The fact that every time there is an idea of a tax cut conservatives are the ONLY people holding out the whole process to give the wealthy the cut too. Higher minimum wages, child tax credits, and every financial advantage Originally purely intended for the middle-class and poor a has been held hostage by Republicans and conservatives for tax cuts for the wealthy, and you have the nerve to say I'm wrong??

If I'd had to wait for the state, county and city governments to make the Federal Civil Rights Act into law, not a damn thing would have changed in many areas of this nation, and not a damn body anywhere to enforce the law in the places that did.

The only things that conservatives will vote for is a wartime economy, deficit spending,& tax cuts for the wealthy,... In no particular order.

It is unfortunate that you actually believe that.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 10:02:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


I will allways be a a knight, instead of a prince.

Did you by any chance attend the University of West Florida?

K.




Nope! The University of Minnesota,




itsSIRtou -> RE: Kansans can't spend cash assistance on bras or undies (4/28/2015 10:11:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

FR

When a liberal (current definition not the original one) see a problem he says what can the government do to fix this.
When a conservative sees the same problem he says how can we fix this without the government.


And anyone with sense doesn't leave out any options.

Conservatives use government as last resort.
Liberals try the government option for twenty or thirty years then try another government solution.



The reason CONservatives use the federal Government as last resort, is so there's over 50 variations of the so-called "solution" with accompanying variations of CONfusing loopholes so that the problem continues for the people least likely to be able to pay for the over-priced solution, and the Real constituents of conservatives continue to profit from the problem, and the middle class gets told all they have to do is work harder to fix the problem. (don't forget to wear your flag pin while you do that, BTW.)

Liberals want ONE uniform nationwide government solution to the problem for the middle class and the poor, without the CONfusion, loopholes, and the profit centers the CONservatives like. WHY? Because the private sector has proven it will never affect the complete solution or a solution at all without profits being first priority over people.








The idea that conservatives want to avoid helping people is a key excuse for insisting on a government solution to any problem. It isn't true but what does that have to do with ideology? BTW they also look to state or local government to solve more localized problems so the uniformity across the nation argument is bogus justification for what they already wanted to do.




Your response tells it all, even what you are unaware of. You know the more you splinter a law the less effective the law is to solve the problem, so Why are you agreeing with this when you know it is true? 50+ law variations in per state times 50+ law variations in per state governments = 2,500+ variations of a law and that's supposed to work on a nationwide problem??? THATS WHATS BOGUS.

The fact that every time there is an idea of a tax cut conservatives are the ONLY people holding out the whole process to give the wealthy the cut too. Higher minimum wages, child tax credits, and every financial advantage Originally purely intended for the middle-class and poor a has been held hostage by Republicans and conservatives for tax cuts for the wealthy, and you have the nerve to say I'm wrong??

If I'd had to wait for the state, county and city governments to make the Federal Civil Rights Act into law, not a damn thing would have changed in many areas of this nation, and not a damn body anywhere to enforce the law in the places that did.

The only things that conservatives will vote for is a wartime economy, deficit spending,& tax cuts for the wealthy,... In no particular order.

It is unfortunate that you actually believe that.



It is unfortunate that your party actually gives anyone the reason in any way to believe that. Seeing is believing, BamaD. Oh wait, u don't see....

So when your party votes for a purely middle-class and poor tax cut with no wealthy tax cut Attached... I'll change my mind then for a moment or two.




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