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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

Of course when you look at this publication you see other titles such as: "Executioners vs. Veterinarians
Which do we kill more humanely, our pets or condemned prisoners?"

It's like the left needs to sit around and tell each other stories to make themselves feel bad so they can have bleeding hearts.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Some day, not today or in quite some time, you might find information to add to a discussion.

It would help if you quit talking about what's in your own mind and zeroed in on the subject at hand (Baltimore Policing). You might also try to understand the people living in West Baltimore. But the starting point for you needs to be leaving your own mind and engaging in a subject to learn/understand it.

To do this, you have to start with the subject. In this case it is Baltimore Policing. Other examples are the Blackwater convictions and hard facts about US social and economic conditions. In all these cases you never even reach the starting line of useful engagement.

I understand you have your own issues, but it's inappropriate to think all matters of the world, all facts in the universe, are served by off-topic rants.

Perhaps some day you'll be interested in something besides fairy dust and unobtainable utopian socialist dreams. Perhaps, then you'll choose to live in the real world. I thought Sanity's point that outside agitators coming from Fergason to Baltimore was extremely relevant to police concerns. It was a point worth including in the discussion and then you were rude.

Sanity's point is to point out there are extremist groups in America that will do anything and everything to advance a cause (i.e. their cause that shadows as someone else's). Its like those Oath Keepers holed up in southwest Oregon. Last I heard they are defending with the threat of violence anyone (i.e. the law enforcement) from properly arresting and charging those that have warrents issued. Yes, the Oath Keepers, some of whom are currently serving US Military soldiers. Whom I feel if caught should be stripped of their rank and dishonorable discharged (at best) or executed (at worst) for taking up arms against the United States of America.

That you are defending someone typically 'not with the conversation' proves cloudboy's points entirely. This is a discussion about the problems experienced and ways to improve the situation. The article clearly explains the nature of the behavior for police and ways around it. If we pay and work to have good police forces, we wont have trouble with them. If we let things slide and not fix the problems we know exists; things will get worst as time goes on.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Some day, not today or in quite some time, you might find information to add to a discussion.

It would help if you quit talking about what's in your own mind and zeroed in on the subject at hand (Baltimore Policing). You might also try to understand the people living in West Baltimore. But the starting point for you needs to be leaving your own mind and engaging in a subject to learn/understand it.

To do this, you have to start with the subject. In this case it is Baltimore Policing. Other examples are the Blackwater convictions and hard facts about US social and economic conditions. In all these cases you never even reach the starting line of useful engagement.

I understand you have your own issues, but it's inappropriate to think all matters of the world, all facts in the universe, are served by off-topic rants.

Perhaps some day you'll be interested in something besides fairy dust and unobtainable utopian socialist dreams. Perhaps, then you'll choose to live in the real world. I thought Sanity's point that outside agitators coming from Fergason to Baltimore was extremely relevant to police concerns. It was a point worth including in the discussion and then you were rude.

Sanity's point is to point out there are extremist groups in America that will do anything and everything to advance a cause (i.e. their cause that shadows as someone else's). Its like those Oath Keepers holed up in southwest Oregon. Last I heard they are defending with the threat of violence anyone (i.e. the law enforcement) from properly arresting and charging those that have warrents issued. Yes, the Oath Keepers, some of whom are currently serving US Military soldiers. Whom I feel if caught should be stripped of their rank and dishonorable discharged (at best) or executed (at worst) for taking up arms against the United States of America.

That you are defending someone typically 'not with the conversation' proves cloudboy's points entirely. This is a discussion about the problems experienced and ways to improve the situation. The article clearly explains the nature of the behavior for police and ways around it. If we pay and work to have good police forces, we wont have trouble with them. If we let things slide and not fix the problems we know exists; things will get worst as time goes on.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Oh my! Reduced to being a cheerleader for Sanity! If there is a more salient indicator of fact-challenged intellectual and political bankruptcy, I am unaware of it.

Let's see??? Looking at Sanity's comment and Tweaks comment.

Links to outside sources:

Sanity ====> 2
Tweak ====> 0

Insulting and stomping pretty little feet:
Sanity ====> 0
Teak =====> 2

I will commend you for "showing" your natural mean spirited nature. I'd noticed you being very passive agressive in other threads. It's better when you get it out naturally.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Oh my! Reduced to being a cheerleader for Sanity! If there is a more salient indicator of fact-challenged intellectual and political bankruptcy, I am unaware of it.

Let's see??? Looking at Sanity's comment and Tweaks comment.

Links to outside sources:

Sanity ====> 2
Tweak ====> 0

Insulting and stomping pretty little feet:
Sanity ====> 0
Teak =====> 2

I will commend you for "showing" your natural mean spirited nature. I'd noticed you being very passive agressive in other threads. It's better when you get it out naturally.

The Big Red Button That Does Absolutely Nothing

Randomly Generate Adventure!

They Fight Crime

Against Humanity In Card Form

Here are four links to stuff that has nothing to do with the topic. According to your 'logic', I just did twice as 'good' as Sanity whom offered up stuff that is irrelevant to the conversation on the topic. I could make an argument (a silly one) on how they all related to the discussion. But that's sort of the point here. That your arguing that irrelevant posts and links some how justify a position that is silly, stupid, or insane.

Cloudboy like others on here are usually nice, unless seriously provoked by people that have no decent argument and are simply trying to 'stir the pot' of trouble and violence. Kind of like what your doing....

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Oh my! Reduced to being a cheerleader for Sanity! If there is a more salient indicator of fact-challenged intellectual and political bankruptcy, I am unaware of it.

Let's see??? Looking at Sanity's comment and Tweaks comment.

Links to outside sources:

Sanity ====> 2
Tweak ====> 0

Insulting and stomping pretty little feet:
Sanity ====> 0
Teak =====> 2

I will commend you for "showing" your natural mean spirited nature. I'd noticed you being very passive agressive in other threads. It's better when you get it out naturally.

The Big Red Button That Does Absolutely Nothing

Randomly Generate Adventure!

They Fight Crime

Against Humanity In Card Form

Here are four links to stuff that has nothing to do with the topic. According to your 'logic', I just did twice as 'good' as Sanity whom offered up stuff that is irrelevant to the conversation on the topic. I could make an argument (a silly one) on how they all related to the discussion. But that's sort of the point here. That your arguing that irrelevant posts and links some how justify a position that is silly, stupid, or insane.

Cloudboy like others on here are usually nice, unless seriously provoked by people that have no decent argument and are simply trying to 'stir the pot' of trouble and violence. Kind of like what your doing....

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: tj444

cops troll the streets scanning license plates, they go onto hotel parking lots doing that too, they look for any excuse to pull someone over.. that happens in the cities i have been to.. Not long ago I saw a hispanic on a bike riding down the sidewalk in downtown Houston.. cop tells him to stop and show him ID.. he says he doesnt have his ID on him.. cop tells him if he is riding a bike he needs to carry ID.. (huh? no TX requirement to carry ID when on a bike that i can find!) there are so many laws (or cops perversions of laws) that most people dont even know..

An why do those police officers behave that way? The model used in determining pay and promotion is simplistic and outdated. It rewards someone making many arrests but not GOOD and RIGHT arrests. The ones that make the location the police serve more stable, safe, and nice to reside in. The current model promotes overtime work and arrests. So the officer does more 'irrelevent' work while harassing the public. If you were in this position, you would be doing the same thing. So the model on how we hire, promote, and pay police officers has to change.

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ORIGINAL: tj444
I watch Marc J. Victor's vids on youtube, he's a lawyer in AZ and he does lectures, etc on what you should do if you are stopped by a cop (while he is talking about AZ, most of what he says pretty much applies to anywhere in police state USA).. What goes on in Baltimore or Ferguson, etc in policing is spreading to other cities, imo..

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ORIGINAL: joether
Yeah, follow that guy, and watch as the police keep a CLOSER eye on your words and actions.

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

So Cloudboy posts an article and says the author is a good source.

The authors says all of the rioting is due to racism. Baltimore has been run by Democrts for nearly 70 years. No wonder liberals are always screaming about racism all around them. It is them.

So the author says all of this current dysfunction is from Martin O'Malley's administration. Sanity posts an article that says, well, the Black Panthers have declared war on us. Joether doesn't see that as a rebuttal to the article author saying it's all racist stemming from O'Malley. Well, so much for joether being discerning.

Then the author says that even all of this racism is caused by O'Malley, if O'Malley becomes the Democratic nominee for president he'll vote for him. WTF is that? It's typical liberal BS.

But, joether, you expect me to care about this author and have a magical moment of emotional sharing with Cloudboy and you.

Ain't gonna happen.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

So Cloudboy posts an article and says the author is a good source.

The authors says all of the rioting is due to racism. Baltimore has been run by Democrts for nearly 70 years. No wonder liberals are always screaming about racism all around them. It is them.

So the author says all of this current dysfunction is from Martin O'Malley's administration. Sanity posts an article that says, well, the Black Panthers have declared war on us. Joether doesn't see that as a rebuttal to the article author saying it's all racist stemming from O'Malley. Well, so much for joether being discerning.

Then the author says that even all of this racism is caused by O'Malley, if O'Malley becomes the Democratic nominee for president he'll vote for him. WTF is that? It's typical liberal BS.

But, joether, you expect me to care about this author and have a magical moment of emotional sharing with Cloudboy and you.

Ain't gonna happen.

You just proved, 100%, that you didn't even read the article. Can you shut your pie-hole now and cease the thoughtless, empty, pile-of-piss gibberish.

You are not here to address the subject matter, you're only hear to rant about your own shit.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


What's next ISIS started the riots? You got a link for that? I know you didn't read the David Simon piece -- Lucy said you're a pond-of-piss -- and you're proving her right.

Fact: You can't stick with the subject matter. This is a 100% true fact.

Fact: You didn't read the lead article. This is a 100% true fact.

Fact: You only want to talk about the stuff in your own mind (the Black Panthers, for example.)

Fact: You don't want to consider good information or analysis.

Your record of posting demonstrates long and hard on the four facts above.

The subject is Baltimore Policing.

Quiz Question #1: Do you know what a "Hard Ride" is?

Quiz Question #2: Has anyone else ever been injured in Baltimore by having a hard ride? If so, what happened. Can you give us the date?

Let's see if you can dig up the actual information here.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


I know you have a tough job, but when there is going to be a continuing discussion of a HOT TOPIC, I think its better to put trolls on moderation than yanking the thread forcing me and others to simply start new threads.

This happened with G. Zimmerman. Something like 5-10 threads got locked or pulled (mostly locked.) Then came the un-moderated Zimmerman thread.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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ORIGINAL: HunterCA

So Cloudboy posts an article and says the author is a good source.

The authors says all of the rioting is due to racism. Baltimore has been run by Democrts for nearly 70 years. No wonder liberals are always screaming about racism all around them. It is them.

So the author says all of this current dysfunction is from Martin O'Malley's administration. Sanity posts an article that says, well, the Black Panthers have declared war on us. Joether doesn't see that as a rebuttal to the article author saying it's all racist stemming from O'Malley. Well, so much for joether being discerning.

Then the author says that even all of this racism is caused by O'Malley, if O'Malley becomes the Democratic nominee for president he'll vote for him. WTF is that? It's typical liberal BS.

But, joether, you expect me to care about this author and have a magical moment of emotional sharing with Cloudboy and you.

Ain't gonna happen.

You just proved, 100%, that you didn't even read the article. Can you shut your pie-hole now and cease the thoughtless, empty, pile-of-piss gibberish.

You are not here to address the subject matter, you're only here to rant about your own shit.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

What's next ISIS started the riots? You got a link for that? I know you didn't read the David Simon piece -- Lucy said you're a pond-of-piss -- and you're proving her right.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


I know you have a tough job, but when there is going to be a continuing discussion of a HOT TOPIC, I think its better to put trolls on moderation than yanking the thread forcing me and others to simply start new threads.

This happened with G. Zimmerman. Something like 5-10 threads got locked or pulled (mostly locked.) Then came the un-moderated Zimmerman thread.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Lucy said you're a pond-of-piss -- and you're proving her right.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Lucy said you're a pond-of-piss -- and you're proving her right.

Cloud, could you give me the link to that please?


I believe it was more likely to be pus...piss is clear and not full of dead shit.

Nothing that has been said by anyone on the right here is more than revisionist, ugly ignorant and mindlessly spewed bullshit...
Oh by the way:) Of course im right:) Im a lefty