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RE: David Simon on Baltimore Policing - 5/24/2015 7:35:39 PM   
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Baltimore police contract hurts accountability, study says

The contract between Baltimore and the Fraternal Order of Police contains several impediments to accountability, according to a report from a criminologist who often examines policies for the U.S. Department of Justice.

In an 11-page report, Samuel Walker, a professor at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, said the role of police union contracts has been ignored amid the nationwide debate and protests that erupted last fall over police and community relations.

Walker said "offensive provisions" in the union contract, a three-year pact expiring next year, violate "best practices" across the country and should be revised to boost professionalism in the Baltimore Police Department.

"In Baltimore, and in other cities and counties across the country, police union contracts contain provisions that impede the effective investigation of reported misconduct and shield officers who are in fact guilty of misconduct from meaningful discipline," Walker wrote.

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RE: David Simon on Baltimore Policing - 5/24/2015 7:39:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Baltimore police contract hurts accountability, study says

The contract between Baltimore and the Fraternal Order of Police contains several impediments to accountability, according to a report from a criminologist who often examines policies for the U.S. Department of Justice.

In an 11-page report, Samuel Walker, a professor at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, said the role of police union contracts has been ignored amid the nationwide debate and protests that erupted last fall over police and community relations.

Walker said "offensive provisions" in the union contract, a three-year pact expiring next year, violate "best practices" across the country and should be revised to boost professionalism in the Baltimore Police Department.

"In Baltimore, and in other cities and counties across the country, police union contracts contain provisions that impede the effective investigation of reported misconduct and shield officers who are in fact guilty of misconduct from meaningful discipline," Walker wrote.


I guess he didn't say what those offensive provisions were or how he knows that the cops were guilty. Surely if he had you would have told us.
Facts go a lot further than opinions and all you gave us is opinions.

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RE: David Simon on Baltimore Policing - 5/24/2015 7:43:02 PM   
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Another two people were shot, one of them fatally, in separate incidents on Sunday among at least 18 shootings over Memorial Day weekend, during a particularly alarming spate of gun violence.

Thirty-three people have been killed so far in May, the first time the city has had 30 homicides in a month since June 2007. No month in the last 15 years has had more than 33 killings.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-shootings-20150524-story.html

Surely you don't blame the cops for this.

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RE: David Simon on Baltimore Policing - 5/25/2015 7:01:45 AM   
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#81 is about Policing / managing the police. Clearly part of the issue is personnel and management.

#80 is about the violence going on in BALTO.

What ideas do you have to improve Policing and public safety? What facts do you have to put forth on the related topics?

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RE: David Simon on Baltimore Policing - 5/25/2015 10:07:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

#81 is about Policing / managing the police. Clearly part of the issue is personnel and management.

#80 is about the violence going on in BALTO.

What ideas do you have to improve Policing and public safety? What facts do you have to put forth on the related topics?

You give two good examples of what "enlightened" control of the police leads too, then demand it based on unsubstantiated accusations by a third party.

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