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Aylee -> RE: Why they riot (5/4/2015 1:00:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

I'll ask the question I asked before...how does stealing from people who ARE NOT the police or elected officials either honor Mr. Gray or take anything away from the police who did this or an administration that has been repeatedly shown to be corrupt?


It does not. Which is why had the protesters taken over Police HQ or City Hall or something similar and started making demands. . . I would have completely supported them. Possibly even with money.




Kirata -> RE: Why they riot (5/4/2015 8:23:40 PM)


Racism and it's discontents...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7Q36V9pg4

K.




Moderator3 -> RE: Why they riot (5/4/2015 9:38:27 PM)

Locked for cleaning when I get around to it tomorrow. To those that have played nice, thank you and I am sorry. To those that think you can ignore a moderator warning and just continue, we will be chatting. You are not going to make those that go by the rules suffer because you don't.





Moderator3 -> RE: Why they riot (5/4/2015 9:53:22 PM)

Please use caution and make sure your comments are not racist. I remember a day when women were accused of being raped because of what they wore. Do we really want to go there with race, baggy pants or short shorts and tattoos? We can stop whatever you want to call that too.

The posts I removed were all continuing to post about the topic I asked you all to stop. That doesn't mean ignore and continue until caught and for the clothing comments.

I cleaned it tonight, the mail goes out tomorrow if you are getting mail.




BamaD -> RE: Why they riot (5/5/2015 12:53:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moderator3

Please use caution and make sure your comments are not racist. I remember a day when women were accused of being raped because of what they wore. Do we really want to go there with race, baggy pants or short shorts and tattoos? We can stop whatever you want to call that too.

The posts I removed were all continuing to post about the topic I asked you all to stop. That doesn't mean ignore and continue until caught and for the clothing comments.

I cleaned it tonight, the mail goes out tomorrow if you are getting mail.

Thanks for not locking the thread.




bounty44 -> RE: Why they riot (5/8/2015 6:39:10 AM)

lately ive heard a small handful of legal analysts (judges and lawyers) talk about how the state attorney in this case has woefully overcharged the police officers in question, as well as possibly wrongfully having them arrested in the first place.

but as to the former point (im taking these quotes out of the context of the article, but they nevertheless work in a stand alone fashion):

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According to Marketwatch.com, Baltimore comes in at seventh place on its list of the most dangerous cities in America, with a violent crime rate of 1,401 per 100,000 residents (figures are from 2013). And given the spectacle we’ve just witnessed in Baltimore, and the vulgar circus we’re likely to see as the six police officers accused in the death of Freddie Gray are prosecuted, and the near certainty that none of these officers will ever be convicted of anything, and the equally likely reaction that will follow the collapse of the prosecution’s case, do you suppose the Charm City will move to a higher or lower position on that list the next time it’s published?...

Six cops have been hauled in and charged in the death of Freddie Gray, all based on evidence that, as far as anyone knows, exists only in the imagination of State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby...

Mosby was heralded when she announced the charges against the six officers, but those charges, though they served the intended purpose of quelling the riot, have now come in for scrutiny as people awaken to the fact that she has presented scant evidence to support them.

Prominent among Mosby’s critics has been Page Croyder, a former prosecutor in the Baltimore State’s Attorney’s Office. Mosby’s decision to file hasty charges against the six officers, Croyder writes in her blog, “reflects inexperience, recklessness, political ambition, or all of the above.” Croyder appeared on CNN and made a compelling argument that Mosby had acted irresponsibly in bringing the charges as quickly as she did, a decision Mosby may come to regret when she fails to deliver what she has in effect promised the mob: guilty verdicts against the six accused police officers.

Read more: http://pjmedia.com/blog/back-to-normal-in-baltimore/#ixzz3ZYNlsPyp


imagine what will go on in the city if (when?) the prosecution fails to get what it is seemingly hoping for.

and some other disturbing things:

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On April 30, a man who claimed (credibly, in my opinion) to be a 21-year veteran of the Baltimore Police Department called in to WBAL radio and spoke with host Derek Hunter. The caller expressed his exasperation with the state of affairs in his department and his city, saying he wasn’t sure if he was going to report for his next assigned work shift.

He and his fellow cops were told to stand down, he said, as rioters looted and burned businesses and pelted officers with rocks, bricks, bottles, and anything else that could be picked up and thrown. “The moment it started,” he said “we could have ended it. They would not let us.” (The Daily Caller has the audio here.) He also said he was contemplating resigning from the Baltimore Police Department, and that many of his colleagues were considering it as well. “We’ve had enough. What [Mayor Stephanie Rawlings Blake] did to us is unspeakable. She needs to step down immediately.”


lastly:

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I predict that by the time this carnival has run its course, not a single one of the officers will stand convicted of any of the charges brought, and that all six will prevail in the civil lawsuit against Mosby that will inevitably follow.

But in the meantime things are indeed “normal” in Baltimore, which means that morning commuters will sometimes find their route to work blocked by yellow tape as police process a murder scene. Enjoy it while you can, Baltimore. The riots haven’t ended, they’ve only been postponed.




bounty44 -> RE: Why they riot (5/8/2015 6:41:43 AM)

and this from the comments section:

"The single most immdediate and effective action Blacks could take to improve their lot in life is, STOP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS."

Read more: http://pjmedia.com/blog/back-to-normal-in-baltimore/#ixzz3ZYQPI6rX




DaddySatyr -> RE: Why they riot (5/8/2015 7:09:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

lately ive heard a small handful of legal analysts (judges and lawyers) talk about how the state attorney in this case has woefully overcharged the police officers in question, as well as possibly wrongfully having them arrested in the first place.

but as to the former point (im taking these quotes out of the context of the article, but they nevertheless work in a stand alone fashion):

quote:

According to Marketwatch.com, Baltimore comes in at seventh place on its list of the most dangerous cities in America, with a violent crime rate of 1,401 per 100,000 residents (figures are from 2013). And given the spectacle we’ve just witnessed in Baltimore, and the vulgar circus we’re likely to see as the six police officers accused in the death of Freddie Gray are prosecuted, and the near certainty that none of these officers will ever be convicted of anything, and the equally likely reaction that will follow the collapse of the prosecution’s case, do you suppose the Charm City will move to a higher or lower position on that list the next time it’s published?...

Six cops have been hauled in and charged in the death of Freddie Gray, all based on evidence that, as far as anyone knows, exists only in the imagination of State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby...

Mosby was heralded when she announced the charges against the six officers, but those charges, though they served the intended purpose of quelling the riot, have now come in for scrutiny as people awaken to the fact that she has presented scant evidence to support them.

Prominent among Mosby’s critics has been Page Croyder, a former prosecutor in the Baltimore State’s Attorney’s Office. Mosby’s decision to file hasty charges against the six officers, Croyder writes in her blog, “reflects inexperience, recklessness, political ambition, or all of the above.” Croyder appeared on CNN and made a compelling argument that Mosby had acted irresponsibly in bringing the charges as quickly as she did, a decision Mosby may come to regret when she fails to deliver what she has in effect promised the mob: guilty verdicts against the six accused police officers.

Read more: http://pjmedia.com/blog/back-to-normal-in-baltimore/#ixzz3ZYNlsPyp


imagine what will go on in the city if (when?) the prosecution fails to get what it is seemingly hoping for.



Indeed. I've heard a few pundits say that the charge of "false arrest" won't stand up because while the knife was legal under Maryland state law, it may have been (probably was) a violation of Baltimore law.

These same pundits suggest that, therefore, what Mosby is accusing those officers of is exactly what she is actually guilty of.

Shit just got real, y'all!



Michael




Moderator3 -> RE: Why they riot (5/8/2015 7:31:41 AM)

FR Last Thread Warning

I have seriously had enough of this thread. Walking a fine line in acceptable comments and the cross over into racism requires a bit more time than I am willing to continue to afford it or those posters that simply don't care to keep it on track.

Once staff has had to clean a thread or give it extra attention and then it continues to be problematic, it is going to require a bit more extensive consideration which could include moderation, banning or the locking or removal of a thread. At this point, if I have to lock this thread because of YOU, it will be seen as a direct intention to get the thread closed or to buck the system in place and either way, that will be costly.

I hate making posts like this and that takes away from my charm which can make me angry and since I haven't yet learned to manage my lightening, you might step away from tall trees. [;)]

I'm trying. It might be nice if you all did as well.

Thank you




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