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RE: Vatican to Recognize Palestinian State in New Treaty - 5/24/2015 10:07:08 PM   
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Someone explain to the him that genocide and ethnic cleansing are not the same thing by any sense of the imagination. He claims to have me blocked so he wont see this.

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I think they are the same when we consider the result. In other words, is it important how a people are removed from this earth or the fact that they are removed from this earth?



While there is often a relationship between ethnic cleansing and genocide, they are far from the same thing, and one can exist without the other.

Ethnic cleansing refers to attempts to drive people of a particular race from their land, and can include many tactics that fall well short of the mass murder necessary for a charge of genocide to apply.

Genocide refers to attempts to systematically exterminate a particular race of people, or large groups of a particular race.

For example: Israel uses low intensity ethnic cleansing to drive Palestinians from their ancestral homelands, particularly in the West Bank, without resorting to genocide. However some argue that Israel's attacks on Gaza with its huge levels of civilian deaths, adds up to genocide. Most people would agree that Nazi attempts to exterminate Jews, or Turkish attempts to exterminate Armenians constitute genocide.


And with ethnic cleansing if they don't go you kill them. Killing large numbers of them is one way of getting them to leave.


I was not aware genocide was tied to a specific race?

Well since we are having dissertations on the distinctions of word meanings, it seems tweak forgot about the American Genocide in Iraq and Afghanastan:

US Genocide: Reuters: More than one million Iraqis have died

US invasion and occupation of Iraq was responsible for the deaths of approximately 1 million Iraqis

Western wars have killed four million Muslims since 1990


Then lets not forget my all time favorite Word Test!



Funny how words magically change to match some unknown sources political direction.

We have much better examples of genocidal holocausts much closer to home like the US through sanctioned genocide? Dont they count for comparison as well?



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RE: Vatican to Recognize Palestinian State in New Treaty - 6/1/2015 1:07:02 PM   
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