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Scenario 1 happened to my brother. Scenario 2 happened to a friend of mine. Scenario 3 I made up. But I imagine it has happened.


No. I am not saying that women are evil, vindictive people who commonly do this sort of thing. What I AM saying is men have NO rights when this sort of thing happens, and NO politician is bold enough to take this issue on.

maybe knowing the woman a whole lot better and making sure you are both on the same page about babies, etc before hitting the sack would be a good first step.. using a condom or better yet, getting snipped would also be a good idea.. and talking to a lawyer, maybe writing a contract on what happens if, with both parties agreeing in writing to it (before hitting the sack)..

If you didnt know, parents (both female & male) that use a surrogate to have a baby have a lot of legal challenges also.. its not just you poor, poor men..

Both my brother, and my friend (ex-friend actually) are notorious for making bad choices. But that is completely beside the point. Frankly, for that matter I cannot see anything in your entire post that is relevant to the point of the thread.

if you men want to have a baby, then hire a surrogate.. try one in India..

WOW. Just wow...

I suppose it NEVER occurred to you that there are men who want to be and are capable of being great fathers, husbands, and leaders of their households? And yes, they would like to be in involved in their children's lives?

sure there are.. I wanted to have kids with my ex (before he was my ex) but he had excuses why not now and so he robbed me of the chance to have a baby just as you claim happened in your examples, there is no difference.. but i am not going around whining and complaining about it.. Instead when i want to have a baby/babies i will not bother with a boyfriend/hubby and instead I will use donors and a surrogate.. A lot less hassle and less costly too, I'd say.. If i have a boyfriend then he would have no legal rights to the child and so no hassle & legal headaches like parent couples have..

Wow! I'm sure that is chock full of maternal juices and thought for potential kids.

I used to think kids needed two parents but I no longer think that, plenty of single parents (both male & female) do a great job with raising their kids, giving them good values, seeing they do well in school, etc, even better than two parents do.. 50% of marriages end in divorce, and plenty of parents (both male and female) fuck off on their kids, that's the reality.. Imo its better for any kids i might have to rely on me alone than to also rely on some guy that disappoints them, drops out of their life which fucks with their head and heart, that screw kids up more than anything else..

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In Florida, a man is the father of any children his wife has while they are married. And will be held responsible for those children, even if there is no biological possibility they are his genetic heirs.

So if a pregnant woman marries someone new, the biological father has no rights to the child. But if your wife has an NBA gangbang, happy Father's Day.

Always seemed like legal cuckolding to me.

Check and see for me. Does that married woman have to have permission from the husband to abort his child or not.

Spousal consent has been found unconsitutional.

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Just to be sure I understand...a woman can abort a child without telling the father or getting his concurrence?

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Just to be sure I understand...a woman can abort a child without telling the father or getting his concurrence?

Yeah. Just for revenge, for him eating the last donut if she wants

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Just to be sure I understand...a woman can abort a child without telling the father or getting his concurrence?

Yeah. Just for revenge, for him eating the last donut if she wants

NEVER eat a pregnant ladies last doughnut. Pregnant ladies will get you for that!

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Just to be sure I understand...a woman can abort a child without telling the father or getting his concurrence?

Yeah. Just for revenge, for him eating the last donut if she wants

NEVER eat a pregnant ladies last doughnut. Pregnant ladies will get you for that!

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Just to be sure I understand...a woman can abort a child without telling the father or getting his concurrence?

Yeah. Just for revenge, for him eating the last donut if she wants

NEVER eat a pregnant ladies last doughnut. Pregnant ladies will get you for that!

I thought it was pickles and ice cream I had to make sure were available.

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What I AM saying is men have NO rights when this sort of thing happens, and NO politician is bold enough to take this issue on.

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Scenario 1 happened to my brother. Scenario 2 happened to a friend of mine. Scenario 3 I made up. But I imagine it has happened.


No. I am not saying that women are evil, vindictive people who commonly do this sort of thing. What I AM saying is men have NO rights when this sort of thing happens, and NO politician is bold enough to take this issue on.

maybe knowing the woman a whole lot better and making sure you are both on the same page about babies, etc before hitting the sack would be a good first step.. using a condom or better yet, getting snipped would also be a good idea.. and talking to a lawyer, maybe writing a contract on what happens if, with both parties agreeing in writing to it (before hitting the sack)..

If you didnt know, parents (both female & male) that use a surrogate to have a baby have a lot of legal challenges also.. its not just you poor, poor men..

Both my brother, and my friend (ex-friend actually) are notorious for making bad choices. But that is completely beside the point. Frankly, for that matter I cannot see anything in your entire post that is relevant to the point of the thread.

if you men want to have a baby, then hire a surrogate.. try one in India..

WOW. Just wow...

I suppose it NEVER occurred to you that there are men who want to be and are capable of being great fathers, husbands, and leaders of their households? And yes, they would like to be in involved in their children's lives?

sure there are.. I wanted to have kids with my ex (before he was my ex) but he had excuses why not now and so he robbed me of the chance to have a baby just as you claim happened in your examples, there is no difference.. but i am not going around whining and complaining about it.. Instead when i want to have a baby/babies i will not bother with a boyfriend/hubby and instead I will use donors and a surrogate.. A lot less hassle and less costly too, I'd say.. If i have a boyfriend then he would have no legal rights to the child and so no hassle & legal headaches like parent couples have..

Wow! I'm sure that is chock full of maternal juices and thought for potential kids.

I used to think kids needed two parents but I no longer think that, plenty of single parents (both male & female) do a great job with raising their kids, giving them good values, seeing they do well in school, etc, even better than two parents do.. 50% of marriages end in divorce, and plenty of parents (both male and female) fuck off on their kids, that's the reality.. Imo its better for any kids i might have to rely on me alone than to also rely on some guy that disappoints them, drops out of their life which fucks with their head and heart, that screw kids up more than anything else..

You should probably Google studies on that. You may be surprised.

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Just to be sure I understand...a woman can abort a child without telling the father or getting his concurrence?

Yeah. Just for revenge, for him eating the last donut if she wants

NEVER eat a pregnant ladies last doughnut. Pregnant ladies will get you for that!

I thought it was pickles and ice cream I had to make sure were available.

That is a myth. The foods are different for every woman. In fact, for me, it was different for every child. Even the ones I lost.

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You should probably Google studies on that. You may be surprised.

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You should probably Google studies on that. You may be surprised.

No, imo its how the child/children are raised..

And, FYI, President Clinton and President Obama were BOTH raised by Single Parents

http://www.sciencecodex.com/obama_bill_clinton_have_common_ground

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What I AM saying is men have NO rights when this sort of thing happens, and NO politician is bold enough to take this issue on.

Why should they take it on? What's to be gained for them by taking it on?

If you were a left wing politician, you'd think, 'Balls. This is just the typical male, bellyaching. Women are the oppressed sex here - I'm on their side'. If you were a right wing politician, you'd think, 'There's a problem here, but, fortunately, nobody is blaming right wing values. Instead, the men who are hard done by on this are blaming feminists and feminism. Brilliant - I'm safe! All I have to do is talk about how I don't like feminists every now and then. That's fine, because there aren't any feminists in my party anyway'.

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What I AM saying is men have NO rights when this sort of thing happens, and NO politician is bold enough to take this issue on.

Why should they take it on? What's to be gained for them by taking it on?

If you were a left wing politician, you'd think, 'Balls. This is just the typical male, bellyaching. Women are the oppressed sex here - I'm on their side'. If you were a right wing politician, you'd think, 'There's a problem here, but, fortunately, nobody is blaming right wing values. Instead, the men who are hard done by on this are blaming feminists and feminism. Brilliant - I'm safe! All I have to do is talk about how I don't like feminists every now and then. That's fine, because there aren't any feminists in my party anyway'.

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No, imo its how the child/children are raised..

And, FYI, President Clinton and President Obama were BOTH raised by Single Parents

http://www.sciencecodex.com/obama_bill_clinton_have_common_ground

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You should probably Google studies on that. You may be surprised.

No, imo its how the child/children are raised..

And, FYI, President Clinton and President Obama were BOTH raised by Single Parents

http://www.sciencecodex.com/obama_bill_clinton_have_common_ground

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No, imo its how the child/children are raised..

And, FYI, President Clinton and President Obama were BOTH raised by Single Parents

http://www.sciencecodex.com/obama_bill_clinton_have_common_ground

Clintons a rapist, Obamas a narcissist...

Any more examples?

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Just to be sure I understand...a woman can abort a child without telling the father or getting his concurrence?

Yeah. Just for revenge, for him eating the last donut if she wants

NEVER eat a pregnant ladies last doughnut. Pregnant ladies will get you for that!

I thought it was pickles and ice cream I had to make sure were available.

That is a myth. The foods are different for every woman. In fact, for me, it was different for every child. Even the ones I lost.

Aylee, I learned pickles and ice cream from the I Love Lucy show. Are you telling me that Lucy really didn't make Ricky go out in the middle of the night for pickles and cream?

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What I AM saying is men have NO rights when this sort of thing happens, and NO politician is bold enough to take this issue on.

Why should they take it on? What's to be gained for them by taking it on?

If you were a left wing politician, you'd think, 'Balls. This is just the typical male, bellyaching. Women are the oppressed sex here - I'm on their side'. If you were a right wing politician, you'd think, 'There's a problem here, but, fortunately, nobody is blaming right wing values. Instead, the men who are hard done by on this are blaming feminists and feminism. Brilliant - I'm safe! All I have to do is talk about how I don't like feminists every now and then. That's fine, because there aren't any feminists in my party anyway'.

I'd like to ask you something, Peon. Describe a feminist fro me.