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American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped - 8/14/2015 8:24:38 PM   
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From The Washington Post:

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Leader of Islamic State used American hostage as sexual slave

The leader of the Islamic State personally kept a 26-year-old American woman as a hostage and raped her repeatedly, according to U.S. officials and her family.

The family of Kayla Mueller said in an interview Friday that the FBI had informed them that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the emir of the self-proclaimed Islamic State, had sexually abused their daughter, a humanitarian worker.

Mueller’s parents said the FBI first spoke to the family about the sexual assault in late June and provided more details two weeks ago. The bureau pieced together what happened to the American from interviews with other hostages and the captured wife of a senior Islamic State figure.

The FBI also told the Muellers that their daughter had been tortured.

“June was hard for me,” said Marsha Mueller, Kayla’s mother. “I was really upset with what I heard.”

The disclosure that Mueller was raped by Baghdadi adds to the grim evidence that the exploitation and abuse of women has been sanctioned at the highest levels of the Islamic State. The sexual enslavement of even teenage girls is seen as religiously endorsed by the group and regarded as a recruiting tool...

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Kayla Mueler

Seems like some day the ISIS issue would gain some traction

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 8:31:35 PM   
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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 8:52:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		enslaving, killing, raping their women won't help at all. Time for the UN to step in and make a binding decision. Do we allow them to take over the world or do we stop them.

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:07:17 PM   
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If only there were a statesman, or a leader with some balls, fortitude and conviction who could rally the UN to action

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:10:08 PM   
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Our leaders have balls. Uncle Barry keeps his in Michelle's purse. He drew a red line in the sand and said if they ever used chemical weapons, he'd turn tail like the feckless bitch he is.



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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:12:03 PM   
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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:19:38 PM   
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We have no choice but to put an end to ISIS.

We won't send ground troops.
We won't arm their opponents.
We do about a dozen sorties a week.
We try to reason with them.
We talk about how we don't have a strategy for how to deal with them. Translation we don't have a clue as to what to do.
How to lose 101.


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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:19:53 PM   
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We have a resident isolationist who insists that ISIS doesn't affect Americans.

Yes, it does.

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:20:35 PM   
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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:22:33 PM   
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I'm an isolationist who's given some of his own precious blood to a completely useless military operation.

That said, if we decided we were going to engage ISIS, over there ... engage them in a way that our only goal was the complete destruction of ISIS (who IS affecting us, here), I would be completely behind that policy.



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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:24:52 PM   
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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:26:24 PM   
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the politicians would never stand for it DS. Unless ISIS takes over the white house or congress.



True enough. We haven't gone to war with a firm purpose of absolute victory since WWII.



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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:35:55 PM   
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If only there were a statesman, or a leader with some balls, fortitude and conviction who could rally the UN to action


We had one called President George W. Bush. And he pissed away all the good will the nation had on the last set of wars.

The people of the nation did not wish to stay on those wars, so they hired a non-Republican to the White House. Most people in the nation did not wish to put 'boots on the ground' in several instances, including Libya and Syria.

All the GOP/TP candidates are all happy to go to war; since its not their kids and grand kids that will be put through a meat grinder. They are more than happy to sacrifice you Sanity!


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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:41:38 PM   
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I'm an isolationist who's given some of his own precious blood to a completely useless military operation.

That said, if we decided we were going to engage ISIS, over there ... engage them in a way that our only goal was the complete destruction of ISIS (who IS affecting us, here), I would be completely behind that policy.



Michael

You know how I feel about this, if you fight someone, make sure that they never want to cross you again. Assuming there are any of them left.
If all we are going to use is air power every ISIS stronghold should be a crater. Collateral damage is just that, an unfortunate byproduct of what THEY forced us to do, not our problem. Sounds cold but that is the only way to fight a war.

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:45:56 PM   
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I'm an isolationist who's given some of his own precious blood to a completely useless military operation.

That said, if we decided we were going to engage ISIS, over there ... engage them in a way that our only goal was the complete destruction of ISIS (who IS affecting us, here), I would be completely behind that policy.


I agree with you DS. There is but one problem: How do you kill an idea?

Those that fought in WW2 against the Nazi thought they had killed that idea. Yet, it still exists in many places around the world. The concept of ISIS will not die unless we eliminate the concept not just the warrior. And that implies changing thought processes and viewpoints. That will be up to future generations. How long and difficult will that be?

Took many people and years to convince others that Earth was not the center of the galaxy, but that it orbited the sun. And that concept is very mild compared to ISIS.

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 9:57:20 PM   
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I'm an isolationist who's given some of his own precious blood to a completely useless military operation.

That said, if we decided we were going to engage ISIS, over there ... engage them in a way that our only goal was the complete destruction of ISIS (who IS affecting us, here), I would be completely behind that policy.

You know how I feel about this, if you fight someone, make sure that they never want to cross you again. Assuming there are any of them left.
If all we are going to use is air power every ISIS stronghold should be a crater. Collateral damage is just that, an unfortunate byproduct of what THEY forced us to do, not our problem. Sounds cold but that is the only way to fight a war.


Air strikes are a stop-gap at best. Ground troops kill only the people, but not the idea. Killing the idea will take much more than mere force of arms and military armies. It will take knowledge, humility, and a desire to do more good for humanity than evil.

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 10:03:27 PM   
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If only there were a statesman, or a leader with some balls, fortitude and conviction who could rally the UN to action


We had one called President George W. Bush. And he pissed away all the good will the nation had on the last set of wars.

The people of the nation did not wish to stay on those wars, so they hired a non-Republican to the White House. Most people in the nation did not wish to put 'boots on the ground' in several instances, including Libya and Syria.

All the GOP/TP candidates are all happy to go to war; since its not their kids and grand kids that will be put through a meat grinder. They are more than happy to sacrifice you Sanity!




Practically ever Dem in Washington voted to liberate the people of Iraq. We heard lofty speeches from Bill and Hillary Clinton and Ted. Kennedy and Nanci Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kery and all Gore on the grave dangers threatening the world due to Saddam Hussein

Then the rat bastards knifed everyone in the back with their propagand war. Our soldiers, our president, the people of Iraq...

Convinced the world that our soldiers were stealing oil, smuggling it out in their canteens I suppose

Got a wholly unqualified man of highly questionable character elected leader of the free world

And now gazing over at the people he abandoned we can clearly see that the leftists chickens have come home to roost


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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 10:07:34 PM   
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I'm an isolationist who's given some of his own precious blood to a completely useless military operation.

That said, if we decided we were going to engage ISIS, over there ... engage them in a way that our only goal was the complete destruction of ISIS (who IS affecting us, here), I would be completely behind that policy.

You know how I feel about this, if you fight someone, make sure that they never want to cross you again. Assuming there are any of them left.
If all we are going to use is air power every ISIS stronghold should be a crater. Collateral damage is just that, an unfortunate byproduct of what THEY forced us to do, not our problem. Sounds cold but that is the only way to fight a war.


Air strikes are a stop-gap at best. Ground troops kill only the people, but not the idea. Killing the idea will take much more than mere force of arms and military armies. It will take knowledge, humility, and a desire to do more good for humanity than evil.

You can't reason with the insane, they don't care how much good we may want to do for humanity. If you had paid attention you would know that one of those Republicans you are trashing has two sons in the Marine Corp.
Air strikes can be very effective if done right and with enough power. We have only been doing enough strikes to be less than useless. Enough to keep them agitated but not enough to really slow them down.
Mideastern ground troops would accomplish two things. First it gives them a stake in the freedom they have won, rather than us handing it too them.
Second, while I don't expect you understand this, their military power has to be broken before individuals can be reasoned with.
You can't beat anyone with humility.

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 10:15:39 PM   
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I'm an isolationist who's given some of his own precious blood to a completely useless military operation.

That said, if we decided we were going to engage ISIS, over there ... engage them in a way that our only goal was the complete destruction of ISIS (who IS affecting us, here), I would be completely behind that policy.

You know how I feel about this, if you fight someone, make sure that they never want to cross you again. Assuming there are any of them left.
If all we are going to use is air power every ISIS stronghold should be a crater. Collateral damage is just that, an unfortunate byproduct of what THEY forced us to do, not our problem. Sounds cold but that is the only way to fight a war.


Air strikes are a stop-gap at best. Ground troops kill only the people, but not the idea. Killing the idea will take much more than mere force of arms and military armies. It will take knowledge, humility, and a desire to do more good for humanity than evil.

The closet thing this administration has come is to get them jobs.
BTW their idea of evil is anyone who isn't them.

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RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly ... - 8/14/2015 10:22:27 PM   
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But it's our mess and we need to clean it up.

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