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Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 5:39:10 AM   
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All Bushs' Fault, doesnt affect us. Others do it too, and only a racist would notice, or care... And it has nothing to do with religion.

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Islamic State Begins Demolition of Ancient Syrian Sites in Palmyra

Islamic State militants have blown up two ancient shrines in Palmyra that they consider sacrilegious. Syria's antiquities chief added, "they destroy them because they see them as sacrilegious and a return to paganism." These developments are the first reports of deliberate destruction to structures within the 2000-year-old UNESCO World Heritage site. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights have noticed militants planting mines throughout Palmyra, though they are not sure of their intentions. Before-and-after pictures showed militants carrying explosives and the shrines reduced to rubble. The destruction of antiquities, both artifacts and historical sites, by the Islamic State have occurred in Iraq and Syria.

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Site of Palmyra



An oasis in the Syrian desert, north-east of Damascus, Palmyra contains the monumental ruins of a great city that was one of the most important cultural centres of the ancient world. From the 1st to the 2nd century, the art and architecture of Palmyra, standing at the crossroads of several civilizations, married Graeco-Roman techniques with local traditions and Persian influences.


Outstanding Universal Value

Brief synthesis

An oasis in the Syrian desert, north-east of Damascus, Palmyra contains the monumental ruins of a great city that was one of the most important cultural centres of the ancient world. From the 1st to the 2nd century, the art and architecture of Palmyra, standing at the crossroads of several civilizations, married Graeco-Roman techniques with local traditions and Persian influences.

First mentioned in the archives of Mari in the 2nd millennium BC, Palmyra was an established caravan oasis when it came under Roman control in the mid-first century AD as part of the Roman province of Syria. It grew steadily in importance as a city on the trade route linking Persia, India and China with the Roman Empire, marking the crossroads of several civilisations in the ancient world. A grand, colonnaded street of 1100 metres' length forms the monumental axis of the city, which together with secondary colonnaded cross streets links the major public monuments including the Temple of Ba'al, Diocletian's Camp, the Agora, Theatre, other temples and urban quarters. Architectural ornament including unique examples of funerary sculpture unites the forms of Greco-roman art with indigenous elements and Persian influences in a strongly original style. Outside the city's walls are remains of a Roman aqueduct and immense necropolises.

Discovery of the ruined city by travellers in the 17th and 18th centuries resulted in its subsequent influence on architectural styles.

Criterion (i): The splendour of the ruins of Palmyra, rising out of the Syrian desert north-east of Damascus is testament to the unique aesthetic achievement of a wealthy caravan oasis intermittently under the rule of Rome from the Ier to the 3rd century AD. The grand colonnade constitutes a characteristic example of a type of structure which represents a major artistic development.

Criterion (ii): Recognition of the splendour of the ruins of Palmyra by travellers in the 17th and 18th centuries contributed greatly to the subsequent revival of classical architectural styles and urban design in the West.

Criterion (iv): The grand monumental colonnaded street, open in the centre with covered side passages, and subsidiary cross streets of similar design together with the major public buildings, form an outstanding illustration of architecture and urban layout at the peak of Rome's expansion in and engagement with the East. The great temple of Ba'al is considered one of the most important religious buildings of the 1st century AD in the East and of unique design. The carved sculptural treatment of the monumental archway through which the city is approached from the great temple is an outstanding example of Palmyrene art. The large scale funerary monuments outside the city walls in the area known as the Valley of the Tombs display distinctive decoration and construction methods.

Integrity (2009)

All the key attributes, including the main colonnaded street, major public buildings and funerary monuments, lie within the boundary. The tower tombs and the citadel are vulnerable to minor earthquakes and lack of conservation. Since the time of inscription, the population of the adjacent town has increased and is encroaching on the archaeological zone. Although traffic has increased, the main road that passed through the site has been diverted. Increased tourism has brought pressure for facilities within the property.

Authenticity (2009)

The key attributes display well their grandeur and splendour. However the setting is vulnerable to the encroachment of the adjacent town that could impact adversely on the way the ruins are perceived as an oasis closely related to their desert surroundings.

Protection and management requirements (2009)

The site was designated a national monument and is now protected by the National Antiquities law 222 as amended in 1999. A buffer zone was established in 2007 but has not yet been submitted to the World Heritage Committee.

The regional strategic action plan currently under preparation is expected to provide guidelines to expand and redefine the site as a cultural landscape, with respect to the transitional zones around the archaeological site, the oasis and the city.

There is an on-going need for a conservation and restoration plan to be developed that addresses fully the complex issues associated with this extensive multiple site and will allow for coordinated management, clear priorities and a cultural tourism strategy and address the issues of expansion of the nearby town.

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http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/23


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Islamic State militants behead archaeologist in Palmyra: Syrian official



DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Islamic State (IS) militants beheaded an antiquities scholar in the ancient Syrian city of Palmyra and hung his body on a column in a main square of the historic site, Syria's antiquities chief said on Tuesday.

IS, whose insurgents control swathes of Syria and Iraq, captured Palmyra in central Syria from government forces in May, but are not known to have damaged its monumental Roman-era ruins despite their reputation for destroying artifacts they view as idolatrous under their puritanical interpretation of Islam.

Syrian state antiquities chief Maamoun Abdulkarim said the family of Khaled Asaad had informed him that the 82-year-old scholar who worked for over 50 years as head of antiquities in Palmyra was executed by Islamic State on Tuesday.

Asaad had been detained and interrogated for over a month by the ultra-radical Sunni Muslim militants, he told Reuters.

"Just imagine that such a scholar who gave such memorable services to the place and to history would be beheaded ... and his corpse still hanging from one of the ancient columns in the center of a square in Palmyra," Abdulkarim said.

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https://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-militants-behead-archaeologist-palmyra-syrian-official-210219516.html


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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 6:39:41 AM   
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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 8:40:06 AM   
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What's your action plan? White Christian guys mad about ISIS in the USA doesn't help anyone.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 9:10:07 AM   
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What's your action plan? White Christian guys mad about ISIS in the USA doesn't help anyone.

think you got that slightly wrong Cloud...
Its mad white christian guys in the US that dont help anyone.
sound better?



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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 11:12:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

What's your action plan? White Christian guys mad about ISIS in the USA doesn't help anyone.


Thanks

"Who cares, we have white male Christians to hate"

Thought I may have missed one

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 11:16:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

What's your action plan? White Christian guys mad about ISIS in the USA doesn't help anyone.

think you got that slightly wrong Cloud...
Its mad white christian guys in the US that dont help anyone.
sound better?




As long as your post has the words "hate white men" in it you are probably golden

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 11:35:18 AM   
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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 12:41:00 PM   
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Yes, I mangled that sentence, and YES, he has no action plan, proposal, or solution ---- its just the same old over-and-over again rant. The annoying thing is the baseline level of shallow agitation -- devoid of context, realism, humanity, or background reading. Everything posted is rotely off the Drudge Report or other such parasitic right wing news aggregate.

At least none of us is routinely pimping SALON, another non news organization.



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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 12:58:52 PM   
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Yes, I mangled that sentence, and YES, he has no action plan, proposal, or solution ---- its just the same over-and-over again rant.


Can't be concerned unless you have an action plan - good one

See, I'm catching on

(How hard could it possibly be to be a far left ISIS apologist troll)

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 1:02:34 PM   
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Taking pride in being shallow is not a good response.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 1:06:20 PM   
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Taking pride in being shallow is not a good response.


Shallow: On a thread about ISIS destroying irraplaceable antiquities
you are obsessing over white Christians men and myself (your usual obsession)

"Shallow"

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 1:09:22 PM   
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All this coming from a guy who's just feeding the fear, nothing about what should be done. Pathetic

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 1:10:31 PM   
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Yes, PATHETIC. According to him, we're the problem for pointing out his feet of clay.

Again: What's the plan going to be, Sherlock? (OP)

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 1:50:44 PM   
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What's your action plan? White Christian guys mad about ISIS in the USA doesn't help anyone.

This makes about 4 times you have made a comment like this, you sure hate white men.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 3:33:07 PM   
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My opinions on ISIS haven't changed since the thread made two days ago.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 4:46:29 PM   
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Yes, PATHETIC. According to him, we're the problem for pointing out his feet of clay.

Again: What's the plan going to be, Sherlock? (OP)


Trying to decide if its more pathetic than humorous...

Knuckle draggers assume it would take rocket surgeons to figure out what to do about ISIS

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 4:59:54 PM   
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My opinions on ISIS haven't changed since the thread made two days ago.


New atrocities, new thread, new day. This is about them beheading an 82-year-old archaeologist and destroying priceless antiquities, specifically ancient shrines, in the UNESCO world heritage sight known as Palmyra

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 5:08:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

What's your action plan? White Christian guys mad about ISIS in the USA doesn't help anyone.

This makes about 4 times you have made a comment like this, you sure hate white men.


A trolls gotta troll

They dont have the brains to discuss the topic so, using ad hominems, they try to make other people the topic

Its the very best they can do

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 5:39:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

My opinions on ISIS haven't changed since the thread made two days ago.

And I still see them as a tumor that needs to be removed.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/19/2015 6:23:38 PM   
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Asking you for answers is not trolling. To start a thread and then simply bob-and-weave the challenges is namby-pamby, milquetoast, lilly-livered, craven, spineless, and yellow-bellied.

Here's the trick -- you have to think it through -- not simply pull the headline off The Drudge Report.

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