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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 6:41:14 PM   
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I see, so not only do you not have a real grasp on prodomme and findomme, which is the only explanation for you throwing them together and equating them to prostitution, but you are also not above copying and pasting someone else's words and presenting them as your own. And this would compel me to continue the discussion because?


Copy and pasting what!? Please tell me what in god's name you are talking about. If I did not cite something I assure you it is by accident. And trust me, I would not want to compel any more of your logical fallacies here. You have avoided the actual topic here to pick apart what I say based on your incorrect beliefs about who I am and what I think. And I don't know about others here, but I don't welcome that at all. So I don't know where you get the idea that my goal is to compel you to share your thoughts on things that you know nothing about. My opinions, for example.

Equating them to prostitution? Never have I done that.

And if you do that based on what you read in my profile, well then take a look in the mirror. Because it is you who has done the arithmetic, not I. I do not say anywhere that I think, feel, or know that FinDom ProDom is or isn't prostitution. I actually don't care either. What I find interesting, and curious, is why so many have to make it a point that they in fact are not prostitutes. Hence the definition in my profile. By doing that, I am not saying they are all the same thing. And if you think so, then you are an ass. Plain and simple. I intentionally leave any of my own bias, thoughts, or opinion out of it so that it is specifically unclear which side of the argument I am on. So don't tell me that Because it's there it must be that I have a negative view of it.

Also don't tell me that because I am not interested in hiring a FinDomme or ProDomme, that it somehow makes me at war with them. Or that I don't like what they do, or think negatively about it. All that is your own projection of what you think! Not what I think. Also, if I thought they were the same thing, then why wouldn't I just list one or the other?

I just see a lot of contradiction and hypocrisy in the actions and words of what people do. I like to hold a mirror up for those people. It is interesting to me how so many people get in their own way, usually out of ignorance. But what is so sad is that many people are so willfully ignorant that they will never learn any different.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 6:53:17 PM   
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Bottom line. It is a free site. As such, resources to police the TOS are limited I am sure. Its no use to rail against it. Accept that you are on the internet, some will try to get you to send them money. Send them money or ignore and move on. Those are you only choices really.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 9:45:10 PM   
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How about a category called "whiny little complaining shits"? From what I've seen, that group would fill up pretty quickly. To ALL of you complaining bitches I say, why are you still here? If collarspace is full of nothing but fakes, phonies, scammers, hustlers, pro dommes and findommes why are you here? Are you that desperate that in a world of shit you hope to find that one nugget of gold? And what makes you believe that the golden nugget would want you? Do you honestly believe that these rare gems seek complaining lil bitches? Pick up your pants or panties and enjoy this site or leave it. While Im not Pro Dominatrix or even a findomme, (the latter of which I think is a scam) I know many of them and all are wonderful people. If you happen not to like them don't talk to them. If they contact you, block them. The reason that there are so many professionals is that there is a need for them. If there wasn't a need for they wouldn't waste their time here.

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Do you really believe the only reason there are so many is because of the need for them? You don't believe some people have seen a racket and tried to capitalize on it?

Also, why are you complaining? Doesn't really makes cents to complain about people having the right and using that right to complain. You are complaining about complaining. I mean, to follow your philosophy the correct course of action would be to ignore what you don't like or approve of but not complain. If you don't like complaining the don't talk to those that complain. Right?

You ask why people are here if collarspace.com is full of fakes, phonies, hustlers, pro Dommes, fin Dommes? Well, this is kind of addressed in previous posts. Collarspace.com is a community for people to meet and connect online, and I feel that's what people expect to find here. Maybe people still hope to find real people to connect and meet with every time the come back to visit the site again?

I don't typically look for ProDomme, FinDomme, and other users with accounts that literally seem to exist only to waste your time, but i somehow still find myself dealing with them. My time is wasted on them even with a habit of ignoring and blocking accounts.

I suppose unless you have actually experienced this type of thing you will not understand it. That is more clear to me now then ever. A lot of comments here are very one sided. And it's funny because it's the only side they know yet they comment on something they have no experience dealing with. Invalidating someone else's opinion or feeling just because they don't agree, because they haven't even had the experience. Invalidating someone's opinion or feeling for any reason is actually considered a form of abuse. Abusive behavior seems quite common in online BDSM communities. That should be an issue with anyone serious about BDSM.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 9:50:25 PM   
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So the problem still lies... Indeed you are correct and that is precisely what I wanted to get at. Why is collarspace.com permitting it? Why then is the sites intention so misleading? Who likes being tricked like that?

Oh good grief.

If anyone here is being "tricked" then they're an idiot. Perhaps a more appropriate thread would have been "Whiners and Dimwits. Why are they allowed on the net?"


Well, no. I'm sure that this is untrue. I believe there are legal reasons as to why a company shouldn't be "tricking" people.

To answer your question, anyone can use the internet. Everyone but an idiot would know that!

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 9:52:27 PM   
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Bottom line. It is a free site. As such, resources to police the TOS are limited I am sure. Its no use to rail against it. Accept that you are on the internet, some will try to get you to send them money. Send them money or ignore and move on. Those are you only choices really.



I am not railing against anything?

I am the one being railed here. But still, this has nothing to do with why? Or even perhaps more importantly even if these users are in violation of anything!


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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 9:56:02 PM   
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I am indifferent to the pro/fin aspect of the conversation, I'm just here to chime in that I still think the OP is very cute.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 10:55:31 PM   
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you are perfectly free to leave...but before you do, please show me one free website out there that does not have ....."sex workers" amongst the members, especially an adult only site.
The site is full of scammers of all kinds..predators, wankers, hookers, crazies and abusers. you want to legislate morality on a BDSM site?
Plus what Maria said.

Until recently there was a fora section for professional services.



Am I also imperfectly free to stay? Not that this is relevant to the original question. I'll play along just in case there some connection I don't see.

You are trying to make the connection when its a simple as the nose on your face...


What's with the quotes around the term SEX WORKERS? And your punctuation? Incomplete sentences? What do ".." and "...." mean to you? In English they mean nothing and are just incorrect use of the period or ellipses. And why are you uses the ellipses to omit something you are saying as if it isn't relevant. Are you letting us know that while typing you had a thought but it wasn't related, so you decided to leave it out? Either way, I'm sure it's better off left out, so thanks for sparing us. Is it the number of periods represents the length of the omitted thought? Or did you confuse two periods, ".." with the colon ":" perhaps? Because you don't form a sentence with a list separated by comas, so the colon would have made sense. You just have it turned on it's side, which is not a punctuation mark.

PS I have a few paralysed fingers, but please take the piss out of my punctuation and grammar, it makes what you spout so much more...Important. NOT.

Okay back to trying to understand what it is your attempting to call me out on. SEX WORKERS! Does this term bother you? I don't understand the quotes at all. What do they mean? You can't be quoting me directly because I used the term SEX INDUSTRY WORKER. Hmmmmmm. I am guessing that you have some sort of negative connotation you associate with the term, as the common theme here with people is negativity! Well, shake it out! Shake that negativity right out your skull. The term SEX WORKER was coined by Carol Leigh. She was an activist for the rights of "sex workers." The term "sex worker" is the term that has been adopted and accepted by "sex workers" and the whole industry. So the term "sex worker" is the political correct term for a "sex worker" and therefore does not inherently have any negative connotation with it. So any that you think is there, is your own ignorance.

You are so very wrong, I started out in this lifestyle learning from prodommes, Ive been on the fringe of sex industry worker on and off since i was 19. I know many still in the area, as well as pro subs dancers, hookers, cam girls and findommes. I have nothing against women doing what they choose to do with their lives. Its called CHOICE and I am VERY pro choice.


Lol! " scammers of all kinds..predators, wankers, hookers, crazies and abusers. you want to legislate morality on a BDSM site?" The fact that you think those types of people and BDSM are one thing is perfect! Lol.
I never said they were one thing, that would be idiotic. For you to assume that I meant that, means you jump to some really dumb assumptions.

And then you seem to feel that morality is the opposite of BDSM. I would say, and most would agree that morality usually come down to respecting other people. Do onto other as you want done to you, right? So let's say morality = respect. Morality doesnt = respect.

So you are asking me if I want respect among people that particapatePARTICIPATE in an online BDSM community? What does it matter what I want? And are you seriously asking this question? BDSM is all about respect! Respecting kinks, fetishes, limits, boundaries, similarities, differences, threshold, likes, dislikes, interests, turn-ons, turn-offs, etc.
You havent been around long have you. There is just as much "false" morality in the BDSM community(hah) as there is in politics.
You earn respect, it isn't given ....courteousness? maybe, civility? yes, to begin with. Stop trying to teach your granny to suck eggs.


Until recently I gave people too much credit! Silly me.
yeah silly you




Oh I wondered when you would get back to me.

Now if you would like to actually stick to the topic, instead of attempting to give me grammar nazi intervention, go right ahead.


Sorry to keep you in suspense.

Excuse me? Would I like to stick to the topic? I'm sorry, I don't follow what you are talking about. Where did we go off topic? Oh yes, when you responded to the original post!?

I can leave?

The original post doesn't ask whether or not I may leave collarspace.com if I don't like it. It doesn't state that I don't like anything! It doesn't state whether I like anything! Talking about me making assumptions, lol.


Grammar nazi? Lol. It's called language! There aren't multiple ways to use it. And it's not like you simply made mistakes or had a couple errors! As is totally acceptable to have them, nobody is perfect. But no, you intentionally make up your own punctuation. Many people do it, especially online but it is completely retarded. I only got off topic because you attacked me off topic. But yeah, turn it around on me. I'm the one dodging the topic here.

Lol, the fact that you think following grammar rules makes someone more important, sound important, seem more important, or whatever is sad. Sorry but the use of proper syntax is not extra! It's absolutely standard and required to properly communicate with the expectation that others will be able to understand what it is you are writing. I don't follow grammar rules to seem important, as if it's option that you only use if you are trying to go the extra mile! Ha ha. You don't get extra points or gold stars for knowing the rules, it's expected of you to know those things. It doesn't make you exceptional at all. I'm sorry you think so.

It's common courtesy to follow the same rules of writing that everyone else learned in school. It's rude to expect other people to know what your made up rule are. To expect them to take extra time out of their day so that that can try and piece together what you mean to say from the run-on and incomplete sentences that make no actual sense if you read them as they are written. Of course, it all makes sense to you because you wrote them, and that's how your brain thinks about using the language. So I don't really find this off topic since you are posting in a public message board without proper etiquette. And I don't need to hear your argument against this. There isn't one. And I have heard many people go on about it in many different ways. But the fact is that there is no excuse for it and the very fact they you would try to defend it is laughable. And it also shows your lack of awareness in how what you do may affect other people. Or your lack of giving a fuck about other people.

You started in the lifestyle learning from ProDommes? That's wonderful. I'm happy for you, I think. You still didn't actually address why you put the quotes around sex worker then. So, yeah. Off topic again... How am I wrong about the term sex worker?


Ha ha ha. I didn't assume you meant anything. What you wrote implied it! Seriously?

Actually a synonym for moral is respectable. But I also never said that respect does in fact equal morality. What I did say was "lets say respect = morality" just for the purpose of that particular conversation. So you are in agreement that respect does not equal morality, but what is your point? Again here, totally dodging the actual point I was making. Hypothetical must be a new concept for you.

Oh no! I made a mistake! Ha ha. Did you copy and paste my post into Microsoft word to see if you could catch me? Lol. Do you actually think that I was saying people can't have spelling errors? I was actually saying it is immature and ignorant to think that it is acceptable to make up your own rules of grammar and punctuation expecting others to understand it. I actually never mentioned spelling.

So, basically, since not everyone does things the correct way or follow the established guidelines then why should I? Since it's all fucked up, why bother fixing it? It will just get fucked up again? I'm sorry you feel this way, but I"m not responding to this because it's too much and would require a whole lot of effort from you to even understand. But this type of thinking is a problem in our world today, it needs to go away and it will. Younger generations of people have not adopted this kind of thinking, luckily.

Yeah, silly me. Can't you actually come up with something to say on your own? None of this means anything. You haven't actually said anything nor did you negate any points I made with any evidence for anything that you have said. What you have said has nothing to do with what I wrote in response to you. Unbelievable! Lol.


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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 10:56:41 PM   
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I am indifferent to the pro/fin aspect of the conversation, I'm just here to chime in that I still think the OP is very cute.



Finally someone is making some sense! Ha ha...

Just kidding. But, i thank You for the compliment.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/25/2015 11:48:05 PM   
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You're right. I'm not fooling anyone and I'm not trying to fool people. The are too many fools here already!



Youre going to make lots of friends here



Are you jealous?

Lol. Just kidding. I however, doubt that statement in both the literal sense and in the intended sarcasm.

I don't see your point though. But thanks for your contribution? I don't know how to respond. Do you want me to attack you personally? I'm really not trying to fight people here. Even though I will defend myself, as I have. And I'm trying to respond to everyone. It is just that, I'm not understanding your intention other than to be negative. Which does seem to make sense with your self proclaimed criminal activities in your signature. Also which would make me want to fight with you even less. I'm really not interested in having any of those experiences myself, and I'm not here to judge. Like many who have posted here surely are! Lol.

I've done nothing to receive the responses I have here. People took it upon themselves to assume they knew what I thought and then attacked me for having those thoughts. I'm in the sex worker industry so it makes no sense that I would have a problem with it. And it can't be that I just don't like FinDomme or ProDomme because they might take potential business away from me. And this is because I could actually take on either one of those if I it pleased me to do so, there is a niche for the trans Domme after all.

So I really just don't know what many of you are even talking about or why you are talking about it. It is interesting how negative many of the people responding to the OP think and feel so negatively about this topic they at the same time are trying to defend. I didn't bring up anything negative in the OP. Don't you find that curious? I find it very interesting and it was intended. I didn't realize that there wouldn't be any actual discussion though. That was disappointing for sure! It's funny how when you word things in a way that doesn't express your opinion people automatically assume the worst. Then they feel threatened or it brings up bad feelings inside so they become defensive and go into attack mode. At the same time they expose themselves by doing so. It's kind of funny minus all the logical fallacies, that's just obnoxious. If people would just take the time to understand things before they react to them the world would be a happier place. Not that anyone cares or wants a happier place to live.


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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/26/2015 3:26:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkyAbstract


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ORIGINAL: kinkyAbstract

You're right. I'm not fooling anyone and I'm not trying to fool people. The are too many fools here already!



Youre going to make lots of friends here



Are you jealous?


No. She's pointing out that you are not making your point in ways that will gain you positive responses on this forum.

You can take it for what it is, factual information cloaked in sarcasm. You may then choose to make a change or not. Seems simple enough.

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I've done nothing to receive the responses I have here.


Yes you did: you posted.

Did you not spend any time on the forum, reading to see what this community is about, the standards of behavior, etc? Because if you had, you would have seen that you were going to get responses like you have with the types of attitude you are bringing and the topic you posted.

Happens every time. No surprise there.

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I'm in the sex worker industry so it makes no sense that I would have a problem with it.


Actually, that's like saying, "I'm female, and I don't think there are any problems with discrimination against women." There are plenty of self-haters out there.

I'm not saying you are, but you keep bringing up your status as a sex worker as if that matters. It doesn't, not to the TOS. Not to us.

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So I really just don't know what many of you are even talking about or why you are talking about it.


I'll help: Most are talking about you, and about how you came on the forum, asked a question with implied beliefs, got several perfectly considerate and well-reasoned answers, and either railed against them or ignored them in favor of more and more inflammatory behavior.

Does that help?

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If people would just take the time to understand things before they react to them the world would be a happier place. Not that anyone cares or wants a happier place to live.


Pot, meet kettles. Projection, indeed.


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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/26/2015 8:09:00 PM   
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slow claps::


perfect answer.

oh and the "criminal activity" in my signature...is sarcasm as well.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/27/2015 12:09:21 PM   
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slow claps::


perfect answer.

oh and the "criminal activity" in my signature...is sarcasm as well.


Yeah sarcasm always works best when advertised as such. Which it kind of has in common with this GimmeGimmeImBetterThanYou domme shit.
Am I grateful for the things my master gives me? Totally. Would I pay for them? Probably. Would they feel the same? Never!

Oh Master just said (very rare occasion and I quote): "What would I want with all the money in the world if I couldn't have you." Made me cry, actually.


Now go ahead and tell me that's not what everybody is craving and you're not just providing an illusion of that. The problem being if you charge normal rates it becomes obvious that it's not the real thing.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/27/2015 12:45:03 PM   
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I am just curious. Because it clearly states in the Terms and Conditions of Collarspace.com that the website does not allow users to advertise services. Well, what the fuck do you call what they are doing? They advertise services and request money for those services... And everyone knows for a fact that they aren't advertising sex, because that would be illegal. So therefore it must be services! Right? Lol.

Here is what the Terms and Conditions state:


TERMS AND CONDITIONS
WWW.COLLARSPACE.COM
effective date: 8/27/02
last modified: 12/18/14


4. MEMBERSHIP TERMS, LIMITATIONS & CONDITIONS:



4.3. No Illegal Conduct Allowed: You will not use the Website in any manner inconsistent with any applicable laws or regulations. You may not include any personally-identifying information such as phone numbers, street addresses, Web site addresses, email addresses, Instant Messenger screen names, or any other information that if provided may be used to circumvent the Website's communication capabilities.




Tell you what. Why don't you start a list of all those you don't think should be on this site. While you are at it add those people that others don't think should be on this site. Include the men pretending to be women, the married pretending to be single, people looking for an easy hookup because all BDSM folk jump into bed with anyone, anywhere, all the time because they have no morals. Include the older people who say they are younger, and the younger who say they are older. Include members who won't answer cmail from those who live 2000 miles away. List those who don't have a clue but pretend to be Dominants and those who don't have a clue who pretend to be submissives or slaves. Include the guy whose profile listed all the activities a Domme must do to him including the percentage of playtime dedicated to each activity. While we're at it, as some insist this is a dating site, list all those people who already have a partner so are not looking. I guess since you are listing all the prodoms and findoms you will have to add those who are looking for prodoms and findoms to your list. I'd like you to add to your list all the whiny asses around here. I am soooo tired of them complaining because the FREE site they are on isn't doing things right, according to them.





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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/27/2015 10:55:56 PM   
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perfect answer.

oh and the "criminal activity" in my signature...is sarcasm as well.


Yeah sarcasm always works best when advertised as such. Which it kind of has in common with this GimmeGimmeImBetterThanYou domme shit.
Am I grateful for the things my master gives me? Totally. Would I pay for them? Probably. Would they feel the same? Never!

Oh Master just said (very rare occasion and I quote): "What would I want with all the money in the world if I couldn't have you." Made me cry, actually.


Now go ahead and tell me that's not what everybody is craving and you're not just providing an illusion of that. The problem being if you charge normal rates it becomes obvious that it's not the real thing.


From what I've been told I don't charge normal rates, which I never cared what's normal. I do what I want to do.
And I'm not providing anything other than what makes me happy. :)


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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/27/2015 11:48:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

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ORIGINAL: kinkyAbstract


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK


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ORIGINAL: kinkyAbstract

You're right. I'm not fooling anyone and I'm not trying to fool people. The are too many fools here already!



Youre going to make lots of friends here



Are you jealous?


No. She's pointing out that you are not making your point in ways that will gain you positive responses on this forum.

You can take it for what it is, factual information cloaked in sarcasm. You may then choose to make a change or not. Seems simple enough.

Ha ha. It was a joke. Oh my god. Are you kidding me? Ha! You just blew my mind! I seriously can't believe you took time or made the decision to respond to that.

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I've done nothing to receive the responses I have here.


Yes you did: you posted.

Did you not spend any time on the forum, reading to see what this community is about, the standards of behavior, etc? Because if you had, you would have seen that you were going to get responses like you have with the types of attitude you are bringing and the topic you posted.

Happens every time. No surprise there.

Really? So to post here is to be attacked by "this community." And no dear, read the OP. There is no attitude there. I knew exactly what I was doing and how I was doing it. And it shouldn't receive that kind of response amount intelligent people. I mean, this is getting pretty bad. I really feel like your reaching now. I knew that people might get hyped up about it. But there shouldn't actually be a reason to take it personally unless you actually are insecure about it yourself. Do you get that? That is what happened here. That, or your "community" is so used to bullying every idiot fool that does post here with a negative connotation towards a topic, ignorant, and offensive that your "community" just jumps the gun anytime they feel like someone is crossing a line. I'm sure this happens every time. My surprise is in the refusal to look at it. I knew it happens. It's why I wrote the post the way I did. And as you said, "I posted" so you actually just confirmed what I'm trying to say here. You also say that your "community" here does this repeatedly through many of the threads here. So much so that it would be apparent by simply reading though some old posts. Lol. Your so called "standards of behavior" which in reality is more like delusions of grandeur. Because I know this isn't how any of you speak to people in the world that have people in it you see face to face. And again, as you said yourself, you have to read around to learn the rules to know, "what this community is about, the standards of behavior." The implication being that it is different from the standards of behavior in real world or even other places on the internet for that matter. So it is my fault that I don't subscribe to the convoluted perspective your "community" has built for itself here? Sorry but I subscribe to academia, where people can reference the accepted methods of things like behavior and communication, not your "community."



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I'm in the sex worker industry so it makes no sense that I would have a problem with it.


Actually, that's like saying, "I'm female, and I don't think there are any problems with discrimination against women." There are plenty of self-haters out there.

I'm not saying you are, but you keep bringing up your status as a sex worker as if that matters. It doesn't, not to the TOS. Not to us.

Lol! No it's now! I said, I'm in the sex worker industry so it makes no sense I would have a problem with it (it meaning, with someone else being a sex worker). Also, I'm not a female! Lol. So I would have to say, "I'm a male. Who dresses like a female. Therefore, I know what it is like to be a female, and I don't think there are any problems with discrimination against women." And that is surely not like anything I was saying.


Terms and Conditions.

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So I really just don't know what many of you are even talking about or why you are talking about it.


I'll help: Most are talking about you, and about how you came on the forum, asked a question with implied beliefs, got several perfectly considerate and well-reasoned answers, and either railed against them or ignored them in favor of more and more inflammatory behavior.

Does that help?

Awe, Thanks hun. But you're confused. Those weren't questions. Nor did I ask for help! My god. That make no sense! Why would I ask people who I just stated don't have any idea about what is going on, for help? What the hell?

Lol, this is so disappointing. None of you can actually argue with anything I say or have said. You just change what I say by projecting, judging me, adding words to mine, assuming the wrong thing and then respond to that. I just have to correct everything everyone thinks I'm saying. My writing style has always been very neutral. It's hard to know what my opinion is because I either leave it out or teeter from both sides of an issue so it's always hard to tell from my writing what my opinion is. It's frustrated many people, from instructors and professors to co-workers, and it has it's positives and negatives. But it's something I have to try hard to not do actually, so don't tell me that I asked a questions with implied beliefs.

I don't know how it's so impossible that an escort would want to know this information so that if they themselves wanted to advertise here, they could do so confidently and without fear of whatever consequences may come out of it.

And what you say in the quote is just complete bullshit, you say I, "...got several perfectly considerate and well-reasoned answers" Considerate? LOL, I can't begin to understand how anyone would think so. Total bullshit! Well-reasoned answers? Are you reading the right thread? No one even answered my question! Ever! Anywhere!? If they mention it, they use it as a way to insult me through some sarcastic remark they think is witty. It's old and troll-like. Boring and unoriginal. Then you say I, "...either railed against them or ignored them in favor of more and more inflammatory behavior." I railed against being attacked personally rather then having a discussion about why people are allowed to do something that's apparently not allowed. If it is allowed, how is it allowed? Under what circumstances? How can you be sure? Is there a way to find out for sure? There is really so much more to this conversation rather than what has become of it. It's really sad and fucking retarded this is common place here. What kind of person does't allow the other party in the conversation to have an opinion, and telling them what their thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are? Narcissists, dictators, tyrants, and abusive people do that. Not saying that you are. I'm just saying. And I didn't intentional ignore any repsonses, I was just trying to get to all of them. But with all the corrections and your alternate reality or "community" and all it's special rules, its time consuming.

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If people would just take the time to understand things before they react to them the world would be a happier place. Not that anyone cares or wants a happier place to live.


Pot, meet kettles. Projection, indeed.

I couldn't sum this up better, so again. If people would just take the time to understand things before they react to them the world would be a happier place. Not that anyone cares or wants a happier place to live.



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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/27/2015 11:57:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkyAbstract


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How about a category called "whiny little complaining shits"? From what I've seen, that group would fill up pretty quickly. To ALL of you complaining bitches I say, why are you still here? If collarspace is full of nothing but fakes, phonies, scammers, hustlers, pro dommes and findommes why are you here? Are you that desperate that in a world of shit you hope to find that one nugget of gold? And what makes you believe that the golden nugget would want you? Do you honestly believe that these rare gems seek complaining lil bitches? Pick up your pants or panties and enjoy this site or leave it. While Im not Pro Dominatrix or even a findomme, (the latter of which I think is a scam) I know many of them and all are wonderful people. If you happen not to like them don't talk to them. If they contact you, block them. The reason that there are so many professionals is that there is a need for them. If there wasn't a need for they wouldn't waste their time here.

COLLARSPACE Love it or leave it.


Do you really believe the only reason there are so many is because of the need for them? You don't believe some people have seen a racket and tried to capitalize on it?


Can we quickly workshop this one.... Why do you think some people have seen a racket? Could it be for example that there's a huge demand?



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Also, why are you complaining? Doesn't really makes cents to complain about people having the right and using that right to complain. You are complaining about complaining. I mean, to follow your philosophy the correct course of action would be to ignore what you don't like or approve of but not complain. If you don't like complaining the don't talk to those that complain. Right?

You ask why people are here if collarspace.com is full of fakes, phonies, hustlers, pro Dommes, fin Dommes? Well, this is kind of addressed in previous posts. Collarspace.com is a community for people to meet and connect online, and I feel that's what people expect to find here. Maybe people still hope to find real people to connect and meet with every time the come back to visit the site again?

I don't typically look for ProDomme, FinDomme, and other users with accounts that literally seem to exist only to waste your time, but i somehow still find myself dealing with them. My time is wasted on them even with a habit of ignoring and blocking accounts.


Out of interest, how much time do you spend dealing with them?

It could be your gender status, perhaps, but as a male dom, I pretty much never hear from the fake findommes or prodommes. I've made several really good friends who are either fin or pro-dommes although that's mostly from this side.

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I suppose unless you have actually experienced this type of thing you will not understand it. That is more clear to me now then ever. A lot of comments here are very one sided. And it's funny because it's the only side they know yet they comment on something they have no experience dealing with. Invalidating someone else's opinion or feeling just because they don't agree, because they haven't even had the experience. Invalidating someone's opinion or feeling for any reason is actually considered a form of abuse. Abusive behavior seems quite common in online BDSM communities. That should be an issue with anyone serious about BDSM.


Yes, I think you're right to be concerned about abusive behaviour. That said, can I ask you to reflect just a little on your tone and comportment. I have no axe to grind here, and I have to say that you do come over as a little bit "shouty".

I'm sure that this is not the impression you intended to give, and I'm sure it's not a reflection on you, and I hope you take this feedback in the spirit that's intended.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/28/2015 12:07:03 AM   
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What the fuck are you talking about? You are exceptionally confused about what is going on here. I have no idea why you are talking to me about who should be allowed on this site. If I commented on that, it was because someone else brought that up.

Oh wait, is this a response to the OP? Ha ha.. oh fuck... Where have you gotten lost? Did you read the subject and just freak out? I'm just trying to understand how you got to even considering anyone's opinion in regards to this post or in regards to who should be allowed on this site.

I can't. I can't figure out how the fuck you came to this idea that I'm talking about my opinion about who who should be allowed on this site. This is so fucking retarded I can't even believe it. I have no idea what to tell you. You don't understand English well enough and I don't know how to put it more simply then the OP already has done.

No one is makings fucking lists! I am not talking about my opinion here, I'm asking a fucking question!?!?!? Hello? Knock! Knock! Is your head hollow of your brain mush?

COLLARSPACE states that using it's website in various ways and certain for purposes is not allowed. NOT I! This has nothing to do with what I think. It has to do with what I want to know! Hence the question (which is not an opinion for the record).

I couldn't read your whole post so I don't know what the hell else it mentions. But I'm pretty much done repeating myself hear.

Ya'll all so used to fighting, fighting, fighting, attack, attack, attack! ROAR! Ya'll don't even know what ya'll are fighting against anymore. But whatever, I'm happy it gives you guys the empowerment you felt you needed. I guess... Just wish it was a healthier form of it.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/28/2015 12:10:25 AM   
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Replying to nobody in particular. Please calm down. Or this thread will be locked.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/28/2015 12:26:48 AM   
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Welcome back 12. Glad to see you, it's been a while.

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RE: ProDom and FinDom. Why are they allowed on this site? - 8/28/2015 12:28:12 AM   
kinkyAbstract


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By the way... In the words of many of you here:

It's a free site. If you don't like the way I wrote the OP the leave! You don't have to come here! No one asked you to come to Collarspace.com.

If you don't like it then leave damnit, nobody wants to hear you complain about people who don't do things the way you want and expect them to! This site wasn't made for you and doesn't cater do you.

Now, if you argue with this you are an idiot. And you don't deserve the brain stuck inside your skull. This has been your philosophy and logic so it must also then apply to you. But this whole thread has been a mirror you refuse to look at.




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