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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 9:56:11 AM   
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Skills of a non sexual non play type are a huge thing for me. I can find all sorts of people who enjoy the play but when it comes to service they get more rare.

A list of practicle skills tells me to an extent what kind of value a person places on themselves, and that is more important than the list itself. More often than not though I would guess that a good list of practicle skills would be the thing that put you over the top for someone rather than caused the intial attraction.

I tend to have a less romantic view of D/s M/s than many here, so skills make a bigger difference to me than they might to others. Someone mentioned that certainly a skillset that would make you fit well into somone's life could make a big difference. Different Dominants value different skills in vaious orders. Book keeping would be valuable to some and worthless to others, Laundry skills ( and I mean real skills not just how to operate a Washer/ dryer, but how to remove various stains from various materials, as well as how to care for clothing so that it lasts longer. would be something most would find valuable.

I try to avoid the whole pink/ blue thing because a male Valet would have skills that in many houses would be considered pink. So don't limit yourself to "pink" skills A person with the skills of a professional Butler be they male or female would be a goldmine.

Above all though the universal skill I tend to value most is the ability to organize tasks and manage time, because it ties the rest of the skills all together.

You might do well to decide what kind of a Dominant you want to serve, and then target your profile to suit the needs you expect that Dominant to desire.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 9:58:47 AM   
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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:01:05 AM   
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What ever happened to couples who share all the mundane aspects of life, such as cleaning, cooking, bills, etc.? I find it fascinating that on site like collarme, unlike vanilla sites, that such things like listing your "skills" need to even be discussed in a profile. I have never been in a successful relationship where we did not share the running of a home, etc. Cooking, cleaning, etc. are not BDSM activities to ME.

Talents outside of the bedroom are appreciated for what they are and what they add to an overall relationship. If someone does not like the fact that I list housework as a Hard Limit, that is their problem. I also am amused that someone said if we list No Housework they must wonder what that person's home looks like.  My home looks beautiful and it is clean because I have a cleaning woman that I pay to clean it.

I fear that many Dominants simply use this lifestyle as an excuse to have someone be a free cook/maid. Some of us work stressful jobs outside of the home and we don't like menial chores. That does not mean we are seeking Prince Charming, as someone sarcastically stated. It just mean we seek an equal partnership.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:07:31 AM   
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  For example, you mention cooking and entertaining, two skills which -- were I "in the market" for a submissive I would find very necessary and appealing.  Conversely, while I think twicehappy's skills (and clearly evident pride) in her motorcycle mechanics are pretty cool, I'd have no use for her in that area.

E.

(Now my problem is finding ways to use my little girl's exceptional service skills.)


With all due respect, I find these statements contradictory.
Your approach to the hypotethical sub's profile seems to be one of filling the position with the candidate with the right skills. Then, you go on to intimate that your current submissive possesses skills you dont yet know how to use. In the theoretical model, you appear to value skill over or at least as much as substance but in the practical you have chosen a submissive based on something a little less tangible (and probably a whole lot deeper) than her "skill set". And obviously, you made what you believe to be a good choice based on those intangibles, regardless of any yet-untapped skills she may have presented in her profile before you met.

I believe that the type of relationship Susan is looking for is that of a romantic/love partnership* as well as one of submission and service. When looking for a life partner, I think there are much more important things to look for than what kind of "skills" they have. Im not sure I know a single successful couple whose foundation is built on "skills".

...Nunchuck skills......bowhunting skills......computer hacking skills...

Whatever wonderful blend of skills, attitudes, experiences and attributes my partner brings to the table, there is no way I can tell by a list whether or not it's going to be a good fit. Im not saying lists arent a legitimate tool with which we can develop a representation of "what we can do" but they fail miserably when applied to the task of representing "who we are".


*edited to say I could certainly be wrong in this assumption.


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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:19:15 AM   
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What ever happened to couples who share all the mundane aspects of life, such as cleaning, cooking, bills, etc.? I find it fascinating that on site like collarme, unlike vanilla sites, that such things like listing your "skills" need to even be discussed in a profile. I have never been in a successful relationship where we did not share the running of a home, etc. Cooking, cleaning, etc. are not BDSM activities to ME.

Talents outside of the bedroom are appreciated for what they are and what they add to an overall relationship. If someone does not like the fact that I list housework as a Hard Limit, that is their problem. I also am amused that someone said if we list No Housework they must wonder what that person's home looks like.  My home looks beautiful and it is clean because I have a cleaning woman that I pay to clean it.

I fear that many Dominants simply use this lifestyle as an excuse to have someone be a free cook/maid. Some of us work stressful jobs outside of the home and we don't like menial chores. That does not mean we are seeking Prince Charming, as someone sarcastically stated. It just mean we seek an equal partnership.


It's really all about division of labor. Maybe I have a girl take care of the house-but I do the yard. She does the book keeping-I do the production work that gives us the goods to sell. It's still a working partnership-just like nilla.

The only thing that differs is the Authority structure.

Being unequal in authority is not a default for being unequal in ability.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:21:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SexyRed

What ever happened to couples who share all the mundane aspects of life, such as cleaning, cooking, bills, etc.? I find it fascinating that on site like collarme, unlike vanilla sites, that such things like listing your "skills" need to even be discussed in a profile. I have never been in a successful relationship where we did not share the running of a home, etc. Cooking, cleaning, etc. are not BDSM activities to ME.

No they are not nessisarily BDSM activities they are D/s M/s activities and for some those roles extend beyond the bedroom. If they don't for you then that's fine for you that they do extend beyond there for me is fine for me.


Talents outside of the bedroom are appreciated for what they are and what they add to an overall relationship. If someone does not like the fact that I list housework as a Hard Limit, that is their problem. I also am amused that someone said if we list No Housework they must wonder what that person's home looks like.  My home looks beautiful and it is clean because I have a cleaning woman that I pay to clean it.

For some of us what makes us tick is the power exchange all the time not just in the bedroom or the dungeon. You wouldn't make a good partner for me big deal so we don't match. To infer that I do not appreciate my slave for all her service to me is as judgemental of you as you point out those who wonder as to the condition of your house. Now granted I have one slave she gets 24 hrs in her days the same as I do and to expect her to complete all the tasks that a house requires without me doing anything would be silly.
But as a M/s relationship I get to determine who does what tasks, and sometimes what tasks get left undone for another time.


I fear that many Dominants simply use this lifestyle as an excuse to have someone be a free cook/maid. Some of us work stressful jobs outside of the home and we don't like menial chores. That does not mean we are seeking Prince Charming, as someone sarcastically stated. It just mean we seek an equal partnership.


D/s is by nature not equal in power. I always wonder what people who think it should be are thinking.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:23:41 AM   
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Justheather, you are wrong in your assumptions, but I think perhaps I was not clear.  You assume that my selection of a submissive was based on some sort of skill set, and nothing could be further from the truth.  But if one is seeking a service oriented submissive, shouldn't one know what he/she excels at doing?  Hence I said "add it to your profile."

A service oriented person who has mastered a skill should be proud of his or her skill set, and therefore, as Susan asked originally, I would recommend putting those skills in their profile.  My comment was that a submissive who likes to cook and entertain would be useful to Me; a submissive who likes to repair, maintain and detail motorcycles would not, and if the latter did not get to exercise that skill, I would assume she would be less happy.

Finally, you assume I do not know how to use my girl's skills, which is NOT what I said.  I said my challenge was finding ways to use her skills.  Our time limitations and real-life issues limit my ability to draw on her skills (if you've read my profile you know that this is not a 24/7 relationship and you probably are aware that she and I are both in committed poly marriages).  So I find it a challenge to "task" Holly appropriately, especially during times we are physicially apart.

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956
For example, you mention cooking and entertaining, two skills which -- were I "in the market" for a submissive I would find very necessary and appealing.  Conversely, while I think twicehappy's skills (and clearly evident pride) in her motorcycle mechanics are pretty cool, I'd have no use for her in that area.

E.

(Now my problem is finding ways to use my little girl's exceptional service skills.)

Justheather's reply (snipped):

With all due respect, I find these statements contradictory.
Your approach to the hypotethical sub's profile seems to be one of filling the position with the candidate with the right skills. Then, you go on to intimate that your current submissive possesses skills you dont yet know how to use. In the theoretical model, you appear to value skill over or at least as much as substance but in the practical you have chosen a submissive based on something a little less tangible (and probably a whole lot deeper) than her "skill set".


*edited to say I could certainly be wrong in this assumption.


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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:23:51 AM   
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Yikes someday I'll learn to make those breaks in the post that show where I inserted text into the quote, LOL
There are some inserted comments inside that quote

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:29:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Caretakr

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ORIGINAL: SexyRed

What ever happened to couples who share all the mundane aspects of life, such as cleaning, cooking, bills, etc.? I find it fascinating that on site like collarme, unlike vanilla sites, that such things like listing your "skills" need to even be discussed in a profile. I have never been in a successful relationship where we did not share the running of a home, etc. Cooking, cleaning, etc. are not BDSM activities to ME.

Talents outside of the bedroom are appreciated for what they are and what they add to an overall relationship. If someone does not like the fact that I list housework as a Hard Limit, that is their problem. I also am amused that someone said if we list No Housework they must wonder what that person's home looks like.  My home looks beautiful and it is clean because I have a cleaning woman that I pay to clean it.

I fear that many Dominants simply use this lifestyle as an excuse to have someone be a free cook/maid. Some of us work stressful jobs outside of the home and we don't like menial chores. That does not mean we are seeking Prince Charming, as someone sarcastically stated. It just mean we seek an equal partnership.


It's really all about division of labor. Maybe I have a girl take care of the house-but I do the yard. She does the book keeping-I do the production work that gives us the goods to sell. It's still a working partnership-just like nilla.

The only thing that differs is the Authority structure.

Being unequal in authority is not a default for being unequal in ability.


That sounds totally reasonable, thanks.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:32:11 AM   
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I am seeking friends only right now, but am contemplating how I want to re-write my profile in the future. I am wondering what people's reaction is when a submissive notes in a profile the types of practical service they can offer they feel they are good at doing. In my case, that would be things like cooking, housework, laundry, entertaining (planning parties, dinners), practical errands (grocery shopping),  and a few other things. I am hesitant to list these things because I am afraid it will sound:

1) Boring

2) Like I am seeking marriage, which is not necessarily the case (that would depend, of course, on the person). I was married for 15 years, and am not really that anxious to do it right away, if ever, again. But am not ruling it out, either.  

I do feel I am good at doing those things, and did them for many years, and enjoy doing many, if not most of them.

But - do these types of things even interest many Dominants?

I am not "advertising" myself here - I am really just desiring an answer and am curious and would much appreciate helpful and-or honest comments.

*Of course I realize the person is what matters most (at least to me they will) as well as what kid of "chemistry", sexual connection, and shared values people may have in common.

*But - then I hear talk from Dominants about "service" and wonder if people mostly refer here to sexual- bdsm activity types of service when they mention this, or are they talking about practical, everyday types of tasks (grocery shopping, etc.)?

*Does it matter if I list these things in a profile? Will this be seen as more of a detriment than an asset, overall, or is it "nuetral"? Are many people seeking this type of service? I know some say they are, but are they, really? (am asking not because I doubt anyone's veracity, but really would appreciate knowing).

I think it might not matter, but - I also have a friend who, at the age of 30, has never done housework or cooked a meal, and learned only a few years ago how to do laundry (really). Wouldn't a submssive like this be a challenge for some Dominants in a 24-7 relationship, in some ways? (no slam to my friend, I am not going to date her, we are friends only).

Just wondering. Thanks.

- Susan  

Hi Susan - From my own experience, anything one has to bring to a relationship is a wonderful gift. Master enjoys my talents as much as my service abilities. He is not interested in making me His "service" slave. He enjoys what i do for Him, but He also enjoys doing for me as well. i think the best thing for you is to create a profile that you believe will attract the kind of Dominant you want and provide you with the opportunities you enjoy within the relationship. If you enjoy cleaning and cooking and all those type of services, then state that, perhaps the degrees you enjoy them. If you prefer that these activities be shared between Y/you at times, that's good to make clear as well.
 
Being yourself is what's important. Communicating who you really are, not some picture of what you may think someone wants. This is very important because you're seeking a life for yourself - ask yourself what you really want and what type of Dominant you are compatible with.


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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:34:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am seeking friends only right now, but am contemplating how I want to re-write my profile in the future. I am wondering what people's reaction is when a submissive notes in a profile the types of practical service they can offer they feel they are good at doing. In my case, that would be things like cooking, housework, laundry, entertaining (planning parties, dinners), practical errands (grocery shopping),  and a few other things. I am hesitant to list these things because I am afraid it will sound:
  
1) Boring

2) Like I am seeking marriage, which is not necessarily the case (that would depend, of course, on the person). I was married for 15 years, and am not really that anxious to do it right away, if ever, again. But am not ruling it out, either.



Skills in a slave are always beneficial. Either way, I will teach her how particular I can be in my own domicile, but foreknowledge of the details certainly makes the process easier. As I mentioned previously on a thread relating to the value of intelligence in a servant, I find those with skills more valuable.

While the service skills you speak of may be considered boring, they are necessary tasks in the reality of life. I consider it ideal that a girl identifies with these basic talents. These qualities in a female have naught to do with marriage, but her place as servant in my home, and while I do not look for them outwardly, it pleases me to see domestic proficiencies listed.

The more heady loves of life are likewise pleasing. If she paints or writes or has an affinity for reading or music, I cannot possibly see how one would consider this a detriment. Each mind is unique in that it offers its own treasures; those who would be too proud to learn or benefit from them, even in the most subtle ways, do to themselves a disservice in adding to the reef of their own knowledge and worldliness.





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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:35:23 AM   
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I would have read your profile, but it said "profile not found".
I dont think that I made assumptions about your relationship, I think I read what you said to mean something other than what you meant, which happens.
Thanks for the clarification.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:43:59 AM   
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It just mean we seek an equal partnership.


D/s seems a strange place to look for an 'equal' partnership... from where *I* stand

My girl is more prone to complaining that I leave her too little to do in the way of 'menial chores' than too much!


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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:44:14 AM   
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LOL! Guessing I probably don't need thousands of sales, hehe. You are correct, Doctor.

The hardest part for me is talking about what I want. It's not that I don't know. I do know (at least have a vague "outline"). I seem to be afraid I will 1) Scare some people away 2) Offend someone.

I know that sounds really wimpy, but it's true. I gotta get over it - soon. I say vague things like: "Someone nice" (wow, that narrows it down). I've got some work to do on that part, for sure. Okay: Someone nice who reads books once in a while. Kindness counts. Plus creativity and some sense of humor (doesn't have to be blatant or slapstick-like).

I appreciate:Maturity. Diplomacy. And - cave-man/cave-girl like as this may sound, I like it when somebody sticks up for me if it's a real-life tough situation where I am getting verbally or threatened to be physically, decimated. Little situations that just require more tact or sweet-talking skills to let someone know I didn't mean to insult them (if they took me wrong or I offended them) I can handle myself - and I do; and I think many situations some see as threatening actually boil down to soneone just being nicer. But not always. But, I've never had that in my life, ever (seriously. Not in tough situations, though they may be few and far between. Not even when I was married, very often that I can remember). The idea is pretty foreign to me. So that would make a difference, if I just knew that if someone threatened me, a Dominant or Master would "take care of them" (pick your own method) and I wouldn't have to worry about feeling terrified.

One time a guy I dated told me that if I were mugged if we were out together, he would expect me to fend off the mugger, because he wasn't sure he would "handle it well". Well - I didn't handle him very well - for long, anyway (ha!)

I keep thinking I will hurt someone if I lean on them (but I want to be able to do just that). Thanks for listening, everyone  - ya'll  on this here thread can send me your bills in the mail 

- Susan 

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:47:46 AM   
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You got a good point there, heather (about not being able to name a couple who stayed together due to their respective "skill sets", like computer hacking, etc.).

- Susan

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:50:07 AM   
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The hardest part for me is talking about what I want. It's not that I don't know. I seem to be afraid I will 1) Scare some people away 2) Offend someone


Those people who you may 'scare away' or 'offend' when you state what you are looking for in a relationship, will be the ones you are not compatable with anyhow because you are looking for diffrent things. Sure you are narrowing down the field, good! most of the folks out there aren't going to be compatable anyhow, cutting out a portion of them lets you have a slightly better chance of identifying someone who IS compatable and them identifying you when your paths cross!


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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:51:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Archer

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ORIGINAL: SexyRed

What ever happened to couples who share all the mundane aspects of life, such as cleaning, cooking, bills, etc.? I find it fascinating that on site like collarme, unlike vanilla sites, that such things like listing your "skills" need to even be discussed in a profile. I have never been in a successful relationship where we did not share the running of a home, etc. Cooking, cleaning, etc. are not BDSM activities to ME.

No they are not nessisarily BDSM activities they are D/s M/s activities and for some those roles extend beyond the bedroom. If they don't for you then that's fine for you that they do extend beyond there for me is fine for me.


Talents outside of the bedroom are appreciated for what they are and what they add to an overall relationship. If someone does not like the fact that I list housework as a Hard Limit, that is their problem. I also am amused that someone said if we list No Housework they must wonder what that person's home looks like.  My home looks beautiful and it is clean because I have a cleaning woman that I pay to clean it.

For some of us what makes us tick is the power exchange all the time not just in the bedroom or the dungeon. You wouldn't make a good partner for me big deal so we don't match. To infer that I do not appreciate my slave for all her service to me is as judgemental of you as you point out those who wonder as to the condition of your house. Now granted I have one slave she gets 24 hrs in her days the same as I do and to expect her to complete all the tasks that a house requires without me doing anything would be silly.
But as a M/s relationship I get to determine who does what tasks, and sometimes what tasks get left undone for another time.


I fear that many Dominants simply use this lifestyle as an excuse to have someone be a free cook/maid. Some of us work stressful jobs outside of the home and we don't like menial chores. That does not mean we are seeking Prince Charming, as someone sarcastically stated. It just mean we seek an equal partnership.


D/s is by nature not equal in power. I always wonder what people who think it should be are thinking.

In Leather

Archer


D/s is a Power EXCHANGE. Not one in which one partner is inequal. It is also a fluid dynamic for me and my partners. For us, the power exchange is not 24/7. So anyone who wishes a 24/7 power exchange is not for me.  That does not make me less into the lifestyle than you or anyone else, so your last line is inappropriate.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:52:00 AM   
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Susan, I always enjoy reading your posts!
You come up with some great ideas and topics!
As for service in my situation anyway, I live in a condo and all the outside work including groundskeeping, maintainance and repair, pool maintainance is done by the condo association which is paid for by our monthly condo fees.
The only thing that I have to do is inside.
I live alone so I do cooking, cleaning, laundry etc.
I also do all the bills of course.
As for investing etc I actually enjoy doing that kind of thing and have no trouble with "prospectuses", 10k's, charts, etc.
I run a "traditional" house and would of course like service in cleaning, laundry, cooking, shopping, errands etc.
Ah,...no Power Washing,* ROOFING!*  LMAO!
Condo living in a resort area is very different from other types of situations in that you have more time for leisure type activities.
As for "snowblowing", three years ago I lived in New Hampshire. I heard on the radio one day that there were roofs collapsing due to the mountains of snow we got that year. So,...I'm outside with a 30 foot long snow rake pulling TONS of snow off the roof, the wind is howling at me , it's 20 degrees and I'm up to my chest in snow!
I said to myself; "Tom, you're retired, what the fuck are you doing?"
Thank God for "Realtor.com"
I HATE snow!!!
I was out of New Hampshire in the year. House sold and brandnew condo built here within 6 months.
I think it's important that a sub enjoy doing things around the house.
Kind of like that "1950's style" household.
And in my case going out to dinner or a show on my arm.
I also require that a sub be dressed well, hair done the way I like it, and I like to have a say in which clothes she wears and when.
Condos are "low maintainance" so there'd be plenty of time for leisure and hobbys, the beach etc.
I like being served coffee and for my sub to be awake before me to make the coffee. *It's the small things that really do mean a lot!*
And I'm not really good at nor do I care for folding laundry. I just put a shirt on and in about 20 minutes the wrinkles are gone!
So folding the laundry would be much appreciated as well.
I'm very low maintainance and pretty much easy to please. (I'm happy as a pig in shit when I get new socks and underware!)
In New Hampshire I had 4.25 acres and three acres were lawn to be cut!  I used to call it "The Grass Farm."
And a 140 foot long driveway that needed to be plowed (frequently)
I don't know how the hell I did it!
I should have moved here five years ago!

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:54:31 AM   
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It just mean we seek an equal partnership.


D/s seems a strange place to look for an 'equal' partnership... from where *I* stand

My girl is more prone to complaining that I leave her too little to do in the way of 'menial chores' than too much!



I do not agree that D/s is a strange place to look for an "equal" partnership. Your definition of equal and mine may not match. I believe in fluidity in any type of relationship and perhaps the fact that I am not 24/7 should speak for itself. However, that does not mean or imply that I am not into D/s as much as the next person.

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RE: How important are practical types of service to Dom... - 7/17/2006 10:55:01 AM   
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Our view of what a power exchange is differs then because if you give me your power you have naturally less than I do you may recieve in return an equal value of something else but it isn't power.

I may be mis reading you you may be misreading me, we may simply be talking crosswise to the same idea and not communicating well.

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