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RE: Another Officer down - 9/7/2015 3:06:48 PM   
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Even though Wilson was cleared and the prosecutor clearly overcharged in Baltimore, that isn't enough, we have to put a target on every cops back.


That little punk was not indited he was not cleared of having filed contradictory reports or anything else. You obviously have not read the doj report on the little scumbag.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/8/2015 9:16:01 AM   
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Actuall good news.
A cop in Fl made a routine traffic stop.
As has become more common of late the driver attacked the cop.
One civilian pulled the driver off the cop.
Another civilian chased the driver down.
A third civilian helped "restrain" the driver till backup arrived.
In the south we take a dim view of attacking cops.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/8/2015 9:23:36 AM   
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RE: Another Officer down - 9/8/2015 9:56:02 AM   
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On the other hand two cops in Houston were targeted by a drive by, fortunately neither was hit and the thugs were captured.
But since it didn't add to the body count I guess it is nothing to be concerned about.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/8/2015 4:43:34 PM   
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One civilian pulled the driver off the cop.


Cops aren't civilians????what country are you in?

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/14/2015 12:46:39 PM   
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Two more cops got shot yesterday, one lived in a "normal' police shooting incident so no big deal.
The other, a Ky state trooper, was murdered in what seems to be another traffic stop ambush, is the body count high enough to worry yet?

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/14/2015 12:54:24 PM   
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Cop shootings are at a 20 year low, and cops shooting blacks at a 40 year high. Is the body count high enough to worry yet?

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/15/2015 1:55:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

a Ky state trooper, was murdered in what seems to be another traffic stop ambush, is the body count high enough to worry yet?


From NBC News...

Ponder quickly discovered that Johnson-Shanks' driver's license was suspended. Two women who were also in the car — one was 18, the other was 22 — didn't have licenses either, Thomas said, so Ponder tried to arrange for a hotel for everyone — there were also two young children in the vehicle, police said. "So he wouldn't have to take the driver to jail," Thomas said, "he was trying to help them out."

More from WZ...

Kentucky Trooper Joseph Cameron Ponder was killed by Joseph Thompson Johnson-Shanks after a traffic stop last night. Shanks was later killed by police when he refused to surrender. Shanks was not originally from Kentucky, he was from Missouri, from Florissant, near Ferguson. He had a long criminal history. But perhaps significantly one arrest, for ‘interfering with an officer’ was on August 11, two days after Michael Brown was killed. Not only was he a Ferguson protester, but he went to Michael Brown’s funeral and burial in a limo the type usually reserved for family or close friends. In that limo he is riding with people from NAN, Al Sharpton’s group.

K.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/15/2015 9:55:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

a Ky state trooper, was murdered in what seems to be another traffic stop ambush, is the body count high enough to worry yet?


From NBC News...

Ponder quickly discovered that Johnson-Shanks' driver's license was suspended. Two women who were also in the car — one was 18, the other was 22 — didn't have licenses either, Thomas said, so Ponder tried to arrange for a hotel for everyone — there were also two young children in the vehicle, police said. "So he wouldn't have to take the driver to jail," Thomas said, "he was trying to help them out."

More from WZ...
Not only was he a Ferguson protester, but he went to Michael Brown’s funeral and burial in a limo the type usually reserved for family or close friends. In that limo he is riding with people from NAN, Al Sharpton’s group.

K.


Adding more evidence that this was another ambush.
People keep saying there is nothing to worry about because more cops were killed in other years.
Not since the 60's have cops been targeted like this.
Another point they seem to miss is that in those years with more cops being killed the crime rate was much higher. That means that the cops had confrontations with more violent criminals than now. Thus to make a proper comparison if the murder rate was twice as high there would have to be twice as many dead cops to fairly compare that year to this.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/15/2015 10:04:07 AM   
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RE: Another Officer down - 9/15/2015 11:42:13 AM   
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That means that the cops had confrontations with more violent criminals than now. Thus to make a proper comparison if the murder rate was twice as high there would have to be twice as many dead cops to fairly compare that year to this.


Just how far up your ass did you have to reach for that convoluted stretch of fantasy?

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/15/2015 11:47:35 AM   
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That means that the cops had confrontations with more violent criminals than now. Thus to make a proper comparison if the murder rate was twice as high there would have to be twice as many dead cops to fairly compare that year to this.


Just how far up your ass did you have to reach for that convoluted stretch of fantasy?



Or, we could focus on 2011, and say look at all the cops that got killed on Ws watch, and how he is letting the criminal element target cops, and just in that year alone its almost more than have died under Obama who is protecting them. Now, insofar as twice the murders in those days, seems to me that you have to give Barack Hussein "Law and Order" Obama his props for halving the crimerate, something the right cannot do.

Oh, convoluted stretches come out of asses without pulling, its like diarrhea here.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/15/2015 11:50:17 AM   
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Ponder quickly discovered that Johnson-Shanks' driver's license was suspended. Two women who were also in the car — one was 18, the other was 22 — didn't have licenses either, Thomas said, so Ponder tried to arrange for a hotel for everyone — there were also two young children in the vehicle, police said. "So he wouldn't have to take the driver to jail," Thomas said, "he was trying to help them out."


Vehicle stop, no reason given. All people in vehicle found to have no license. Instead of issuing a citiation and having the car towed the white officer out of the goodness of his heart tries to find motel accomodations for all five black people involved. Then they shoot him.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/30/2015 12:50:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Ponder quickly discovered that Johnson-Shanks' driver's license was suspended. Two women who were also in the car — one was 18, the other was 22 — didn't have licenses either, Thomas said, so Ponder tried to arrange for a hotel for everyone — there were also two young children in the vehicle, police said. "So he wouldn't have to take the driver to jail," Thomas said, "he was trying to help them out."


Vehicle stop, no reason given. All people in vehicle found to have no license. Instead of issuing a citiation and having the car towed the white officer out of the goodness of his heart tries to find motel accomodations for all five black people involved. Then they shoot him.

Finally you got something right.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/30/2015 12:52:00 PM   
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Yesterday 29 Sep 2015 another cop was murdered, this time in SC.
Is the body count high enough to worry about yet.

< Message edited by BamaD -- 9/30/2015 1:00:16 PM >

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/30/2015 1:07:07 PM   
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RE: Another Officer down - 9/30/2015 1:31:26 PM   
JVoV


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Status: online 		2015 Officer Fatality Statistics:
Total: 98 +2%
Gunfire: 29 -17%
Auto: 38 +12%
Other: 31 +15%

Should we maybe think about some driver training yet?

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/30/2015 1:40:26 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		If we gave them less military hardware, I wonder if we could improve those statistics? They out there hurtin them own damn selves.

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RE: Another Officer down - 9/30/2015 1:44:56 PM   
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2015 Officer Fatality Statistics:
Total: 98 +2%
Gunfire: 29 -17%
Auto: 38 +12%
Other: 31 +15%

Should we maybe think about some driver training yet?

If people didn't think it was cool to run from the cops, or run over them as the guy in KY did before shooting the cop death by auto would go way down, but sure specific driving courses for the situations they run into would be a good idea.

So the body count still isn't a problem?


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RE: Another Officer down - 9/30/2015 1:45:43 PM   
mnottertail


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http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

numbers are actually down from the lawless republican years.

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