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while I dislike bumping the "Hillary probe" off the first page, I trust she'll be in the news soon enough to bring it back...or the aca thread before comrade bird brain learns what a metaphor is...
If you want the ACA threads to stay on the front page, all you had to do was ask....
Not that I expect you to show anything resembling a half decent counter argument to a law that benefits you long term.....
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I hated the gosh darned thing and was for the most part, embarrassed by it, so much so that I turned the prime time showing off halfway through. some combination of couldn't stand it anymore and not worth the time.
What's wrong? Are all the candidates for your party total failures? I could have told you that! Be more than happy to inform you of it a few months ago. You and other conservatives demand next to nothing in 'good caliber individuals whom worry about substance than ego'. With your demands so low are you honestly surprised by what you got?
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I think the whole thing started badly when the emphasis of the cnn moderator's questions had to do with inciting discord between whoever was being asked the question, and Donald trump. thankfully, governor Pataki picked up on that and lightly chastised the moderator for it, but to no avail. the evening was characterized by the moderators asking questions to one person, about another person's comments or policies.
Yes, blame it all on CNN. The candidates are a horrible excuse of Presidential material to begin with. You want to blame CNN for not asking questions that allow these useless morons to look good before the cameras? That just tells me they can not handle tough questions. Because the Oval Office has to deal with questions that make PH.D. tremble in fear. None of the questions nor their responses even vaguely approached the sort of questions Presidents are asked to handle during their terms.
How well do you understand the sort of questions each President has had to weigh in on? Its easy to second guess someone you dislike as a US President. You wish to look at them in negative terms all the while not directly answering the question yourself. It shows up in your viewpoints all the time. You really have no idea what these individuals have had to deal with, since there are many items still classified.
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on the surface, one might say it was designed to allow the candidates to differentiate themselves from one another, however, if it indeed did do that, it ending up doing so at some expense of the character of the person being questioned. I think on the whole, too many people last night looked small and petty.
Again, you do not demand the people you might vote on to be individuals with actual standards of excellence. In 2008, I had a hard choice between very different and yet, intensive individuals whom had excellence: Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama. That you hate both of them is irrelevant. They each had their qualifications and baggage. Eight years later, if they were both to run for the office, the decision would be a whole lot harder to make. In eight years which of the candidates for the GOP ticket have increased in their ability and handled tough issues? Not just as adults but as people that have responsibilities to the whole of the nation?
You neither ask nor demand anything serious from these people. Nor have done so for months. Kinda of late to be bitching about it now. Your stuck with that bunch for better or worst. But dont worry, in fourteen months, a Democrat will win the race and you can start looking for a good GOP ticket offer in 2024!
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too much infighting, ranting tones, self-aggrandizement and talking in generalities. its hard to believe the rnc, or the voters, find any worth in this process.
Yeah, we should just throw out debates all together. While we are at it, throw out requiring elected officials to any level of accountability or responsibility with power. Then throw out US History and the Constitution; not like either have helped Republicans in recent years do anything useful for the nation....
I say there should be debates every other night. Pick a topic, and that's the topic those running for office of the President have to discuss. That we weigh in on their abilities and words, rather than the bullshit. That we ask them "OK, you dislike our immigration policy, where is yours?" And not settle for just words but actual text that looks like a bill for Congress to sign off on.
You do not want to challenge these Republicans to hard. You and I both know most of them could not handle a serious inquiry on the majority of subjects. Sadly, most Americans could not follow those high level inquiries. It would require the GOP/TP propaganda machines reducing information down to sound bites for the simple minded to follow and keep up.
Yeah, been fun to bash President Obama, hasn't it? Bet your wishing for a GOP/TP candidates that had not just the education, intelligence, and wisdom of the man; but also be conservative in views, right? Good luck finding that in the candidates on the GOP/TP, right now......
Maybe you might try raising the bar of what is demanded of those seeking office? Oh forgot, that's a liberal notion.....
Because in the general election, your nominee will get 'WTF PWNED' (to use a gamer expression) by a Democrat whom not only has the qualifications, behaves Presidential, but is not afraid to state views and produce concepts in text form on how to fix current problems facing the nation. All the while you'll be trying to undermine that individual while trying to raise your 'lame excuse' of a candidate up to the same degree as the Democrat. An I'll be there to thrash your person, because you lack the will, understanding, knowledge, and conviction, to do it yourself, like a proper US Citizen is required according to the founding fathers.
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