CreativeDominant
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You ignorant twit...
Is that even a sentence, Mr. Grammar Nazi?
Last I checked, the property way to end a sentence is not with a "....". I'm allowed to end sentences that way, because I'm not bitching at anyone for their stance on grammar...
...or put more directly, not attacking them directly because of a lack of a reason argument.
If your going to bash someone for their grammar, you MUST, always do it yourself. That way you can be taken seriously, right?
An for spelling, if your using 'twit' correctly, your a fucktard! Lets see how long it takes you to figure that one out....
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Again, you make assumptions that fit your side. That's o.k. but you need to recognize that when you do it no matter what your side does, you're the partisan hack.
Really? Your side is completely honest all the time, on all subject matter? Good luck with that argument.
A partisan hack is one that believes in their political 'sides' views without ever questioning those views on their merits or moral concepts. I think I state the views based on merits pretty often. Never seen one of my....FUCKING LONG....understandings of the 2nd amendment? I could get into one right here if you want? I'm sure BamaD would just...'love'...ANOTHER....threat on the 2nd amendment....
You call me a partisan hack because you are stalling for a better counter argument. Many of my arguments are air tight. Meaning that I examined the point of view from several points of view and decide on the combination of concepts that form the final argument. That's how educated people do it. I would expect you to understand this, right?
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I've noted times when I thought a Republican was wrong, I've noted times when I thought a Democrat was right though admittedly, I do it far less often because I see them being right far less often.
Democrats have been wrong on things. Some of them want to ban the 2nd amendment out right, THEN, ban all firearms. Which is a cluster-fuck of a bad idea! I use this as a convenient example. Why? You'd have to read previous posts.
I thought the Democrats were wrong to water down the language within the ACA back in 2010. The GOP/TP were NEVER going to sign off on it. They should have kept the previous document which was much better for the nation. Instead, they tried to 'shake hands across the chasm' towards a group of individuals that wanted to kill them! Given you haven't read the ACA, I'll take it as an educated guess you didn't read that document, either....
You disagree on the talking points of Democrats. I disagree on the substance of Democrats. Just as I do with Republicans and the Tea Party. You maybe 'for' or 'against' a flat tax for example. I would want to read the actual document. Compute the numbers to see if the politician is truthful or just a bullshitter. Haven't seen a flat tax system yet that didnt favor the rich while screwing everyone else in the nation. Nor one that works better than the admittedly 'wonky' Income Tax system we have now. Wonky it maybe, its a better system.
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What your side terms as 'racist' is anything that doesn't agree with your side's view of things. Against ILLEGAL immigration? Racist.
No, racism is when someone is doing something mean, hateful, rude, dangerous, or even deadly towards someone else for no other reason, than the color/pigment of their skin.
How often do conservatives talk about illegal immigrants that are white and from Europe? Compared to Central/Latin America and from the Mexican border? Why are conservatives so against the the Kennedy/McCain Immigration bill from 2007? Not because they read the bill! But because they were told to be against it. Conditioned by way of NLP. That's Neuro-Linguistic Programming in Psychology.
Conservatives view illegal immigrants more likely to smuggling in drugs, crime, and terrorism. Rather than a people fleeing areas of the world that are full of thugs, crime, and tyranny. Remember when Emma Lazarus's poem said good things about the United States of America?
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”
Now a days, according to conservatives its 'No Vacancy'.
Back in 2006 (or 2007) a study from New Mexico University showed the likely voting habits of illegal immigrants should they gain citizenship (i.e. by way of the Kennedy/McCain bill). I've searched for this document for like three years without success. So I am going on memory from the document. Within the document it point out that illegal immigrants were much more likely to vote Democrat than Republican. As Republicans and their views seem to represent the views these people's government had towards them in their home nations. As such, only one in six, would vote Republican. Given there is 12 to 15 million illegal immigrants in the nation right now, that would swing many red states to purple or even blue.
Should it not be a surprise that the higher levels of the GOP/TP made it a priority to convince Americans that illegal immigrants are evil and take much a draconian presence to any and all immigration reform?
Racism takes many forms. Why can you don't objectively look at the conservative philosophy in this nation?
I do not have any confidence you and other conservatives have done this to any realistic level. Its easy to ignore suffering when its not directed at you....
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Against abortion on demand or abortion used as birth control?
My view on abortion is quite unique. To the simple minded, I am both 'for' and 'against' it at the same time. To those that study my view, they'll find there is wisdom to my viewpoint. I dont like abortion, yet, I understand its need quite well.
One recent example that comes to mind is of a couple whom were having a child. Due to some medical condition, the baby, if born, would die almost instantly. Medical knowledge and technology would not be able to save the child's life. The parents got this information two days after their state's limit on abortion. So they had to carry the child to term. When born, he was alive for three minutes and twenty three seconds. The parents even knowing what was going to happen, tried to give that child love and caring. Even though they wanted an abortion. The child would not consciously know anything happened. To say their suffering was great was an understatement.
Abortion as a concept is pushed by people to ignorant or stuff up on religious bullshit, to either understand or accept medical science. It should be legal. And funded by federal dollars. People are against abortion yet favor war (i.e with Iran); how do they justify this?
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Against the teaching of how to engage in BDSM activities by Planned Parenthood?
Planned Parenthood does really have much against BDSM activities unless they effect the health of the mother and child. Much of PPH is about good births and educating young moms. If anyone would be against BDSM from a political viewpoint, its conservatives. And not just conservatives, but pseudo-christian conservatives. I do not find Wiccans, Buddhists, even Atheists having problems with those that do BDSM.
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We're engaging in a "war on women".
No, conservatives are engaging in a "War on Women". Which party is attacking Hillary Clinton for being a strong woman? Which Party has tried to diminish women's rights? Which party is against a law that forces companies to pay women the same dollar amount as men for the same work?
There 'might be' a reason why more women will vote Democrat in the next election....
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Don't want the schools teaching your kid that they're special just by "being" and not by doing? Don't want the schools teaching your kids that they deserve a trophy just for participating and that there are no "winners" (because that's not how things work in real life). You're a "non-conformist" (remember when your side thought that was a good thing?)
There is learning to take a defeat, and being attacked for the defeat. There are many students right now, and adults years later, whom not only learned to take a defeat, but were often attacked for being defeated. Meaning they are verbally, physically, mentally, emotional, or dare I say it, spiritually attacked by others after a defeat because those people (the ones doing the attacking) were poor winners.
At the national level, the GOP/TP suffering two 'staggering' loses for the White House in 2008 and 2012. How did they and their supporters take the loses? Like poor sports. When adults behave like children in contests (including the one for the White House) why should children view different? We are the ones teaching them 'right' and 'wrong' all the time.
When Mr. Obama became President, did you see him say "Haha, fucking conservatives are losers, I won!" (or anything like it)? No of course not, the guy is classy! Because it doesn't do anything good for the nation. Yet, conservatives have become mean-spirited because of this attitude that if they win, they need to attack the other side like an immature bully!
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Don't think it's your job to correct someone else's misguided views when you know that...no matter how you dot it, with derision or humor or a speech...You're going to be wrong? You must hold those same views.
No I shouldn't hold the views of conservatives as it relates to a discussion. Most of them take a mean spirited view towards life, religion(s), fellow Americans, US Budget, and a billion other topics. They think its 'OK' to wait until we have a shooting massacre that tirviaizes Sandy Hook rather than before hand. Because anything that makes Sandy Hook like pale in comparison, will have liberals and moderates behaving in a manner that says "There is no discussion you can make; you had your chance and blew it".
This country has survived for generations on the ability to comprised. Within the last dozen to twenty years, Republican/Tea Party is less and less ability to make a fair compromise with Democrats on anything. They are the ones that failed the nation on the events that led up to the partial shut down in 2013 (an rightly blamed for that shut down). If conservatives were so against the ACA, why did they not say "Ok, you want health care? We get better immigration and a wall on the South States with Mexico!". And proceeded to create such a bill. Instead, they pissed away opportunity to 'wheel and deal' with liberals. Who came out ahead in the end? The Democrats!
Here are the views that matter: We are all American. We should be treated equally under the law. That we hold those we support for public office to the same level of accountability and responsibility with power than those we do not support. That for this nation to be a good, just, strong, and powerful nation, it will take steps liberals and conservatives are hesitate to make. One of those is raising taxes. Both sides are scared to death with the issue. Yet, doing so will fix many problems this nation is currently facing.
But before we can do any of that, we as Americans have to restore trust in one another. That requires faith not to 'screw the other guy when their guard is down'. Right now, if the other guy's guard is down, we are HIGHLY likely to take advantage of it. Hence why our 'guard' is so active all the time now. We assume the other side is secretly trying to pull a fast one on us. That paranoia keeps up from sitting down as adults, airing our frustrations and seeing if we can make common sense decisions.
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Trump is an idiot in many ways. Obama is an idiot in many ways. Carson is wrong in many ways. Hillary is wrong in many ways. I can recognize all of that...can you?
If Mr. Trump was an idiot, how has he stayed a billionaire for so many years? If he was an idiot, how can he read the conservative philosophy so well that conservatives do not realize they are being mocked and laughed at? They guy is pretty smart. I just disagree with his views.
Mr. Obama is very intelligent. You do not graduate from Harvard Law School not only in the top 1% but the top 1% of that 1%! Well studied and intelligent. He was wise to surround himself with intelligent and studied individuals on a wide range of topics. Notice the ecnomy is not in shambles? Unemployment is low? We are not at war with anyone? President Obama has stayed one step ahead of the GOP/TP in every subject to date. Right now, the Pope and him seem to agree on many things.
Can't wait for the Pope's address to Congress before all those shit-head Republicans.
Mr. Carson is intelligent and educated. I just disagree with his viewpoints. To me, they sound quick insane and unprofessional. That the man's mental stability is questionable. Not someone I want within a foot's distance of nuclear launch codes....
Mrs. Clinton is at current, the best option for the next US President. She has many qualifications. Not to mention tougher then all the people on the GOP/TP candidate's side....COMBINED! She is someone Mr. Putin does not wish as President because he'll have to deal with a strong US President that doesn't take shit from anyone. Intelligent, educated, articulate, cunning, and strong public speech skills.
I dislike all the GOP/TP candidates. Not because of whom they are. Where they come from. Their skin color. But because their views are not good for this nation. Not in its short or long term.
Believe it or not, Joether, just because someone else's argument differs from yours, it doesn't mean they don't have an argument EXCEPT in your eyes.
One other thing; it's amazing to me how much you and other Dems embrace this Pope right up until you run into one of his principle rules for being...to preach the word of God. That invisible man you don't believe in.
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